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post Aug 23 2006, 04:51 PM
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Ok, this is it! This is the turning point! This is when an era is over! And the new one looks anything but promising!

We sold these players:

Andriy Shevchenko: Our best and most valuable player! Our top scorer for the past decade and our most feared player!

Status: Condition RED! Not replaced!

Rui Costa: Kaka's sub. We were lucky to have him!
Status: Condition green! Replaced by a young and extremly talented player.

Stam: One of the best defenders in the world!
Status: Condition yellow! Replaced with Bonera. While Bonera is good, he is nowhere near Stam and that's a worrying fact considering we were struggling badly in defense even with Stam last season.

It's not looking good. In fact it looks pretty horrific.

As it's been officially announced, we are only going after Ronaldo and if a deal can't be sealed, we will settle with the players we currently have.

Our attack has gone

from Shevchenko, Inzaghi, Crespo, Tomasson

to Gilardino, Inzaghi, Amoroso, Boriello

You see the difference?
Amoroso = under average striker at the moment. He couldn't even play for Dortmound anymore.
Boriello = 0. He is absolutely lucky to be playing for Milan at the moment. He does not deserve it. His record of 10 goals in 82 Serie A appearences should be enough to sell him to Empoli or a Serie B team...

Inzaghi will most likely get injured mid-season and when he does, we will be in trouble! Big trouble! He will be fatigued too, so we can't always count on him as our first forward!

I am absolutely furious with the Milan management! Especially Berlusconi! As he was the one who stopped the negotioations for Sobis! He could have been a great buy! He did not care for Tevez, Crespo, Torres and many others! Instead, he is going for Ronaldo. An over-weight player who is struggling with an injury and lacks motivation. Even Kaka has said that!

Our defense was anything but Milan quality last season and the only reason we had a good season was because we scored a lot! Now we have lost that factor and we haven't even fixed the defense!

As things stand, I have no hopes for this season. There is not a chance we will win the CL and Serie A will be long and tough!

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Totally and utterly right.

How can Galliani even think that just Ronaldo will be enough and if we don't get him we stay the way we are??!!!

Our defense is in shambles, it has been for the past year and a half and they have done nothing to fix it except get an inexperianced player after losing Stam.

We lose Sheva, and what do they do, they try to replace him by a past it Ronaldo. Our attack needs 2 signings, either we get both Tevez and Ronaldo or at least if we only could get Ronaldo try to find some other promising player, I'm sure that if they looked they will find someone that could take Sheva's place in the future, the Brazilian league is filled with talented forwards and they just let one get away, TO GOD DAMN RACING SANTANDER!!!!!!!!

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Couldn't agree with you guys more. People(including me) have pointed this out too, but it cannot be said enough.
The Sheva-situation hasn't been resolved and I can't see how it will be. Tevez is the only decent option left and he'll probably not come, as he's not Milan's first choice while he's the first choice of United and perhaps also Chelsea.
Bonera has replaced Stam and why on earth did we sign Favalli with Serginho, Jankulovski and Maldini in left back??? But let's not shout just yet, there's still a week left to buy players and I hope for at least one of Gallas or Oddo...
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post Aug 23 2006, 05:42 PM
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And now they buy a player like Ronaldo and rumors are - and i think these is actualy true - they give to real an option for KAKA for next year
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You said it. We should definetely do something about this situation!

This is our line-up when we won the CL in 2003
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See the Problem? We have almost the same players in our line-up more than 3 years ago.
Milan always signed older player, but it starts getting really bad. In the past the old players we signed we'e World Class. And now we buy guys like Favalli? Come on...
And Ronaldo...I mean are we still living the 20th century? I guess not, so we should let the fat guy stay right where he is.
We lost the race for Sobis to Racing Santander? Who the hell is Racing @ucking Santander compared to Milan? Our board doesn't even show interest for World Class players like Klose who could be brought here easily since they're not playing for a big club...
The other European top clubs all spent big money, lets just look at some:
Chelsea: The Ukrainian, Michael Ballck, John Obi Mikel, Boulahrouz and most likely Ashley Cole
Real Madrid:Cannavaro,Emerson, RvN,Diarra
Barcelona:Gudjohnnsen, Zambrotta, Thuram
Not to mention Inters signings.
I mean, we should sign some of those players! Everyone around us is improving their squad, and what do we do. Our squad is getting older day by day...
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post Aug 23 2006, 06:11 PM
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WHAT THE F@CK????
IT'S ONE THING COMPLAINING ABOUT WHAT WE ALL SEE IS KINDA LIKE APATHY AND ANOTHER SAYING GALLIANI AND SILVIO CAN GO TO HELL!!!!!!
WHAT THE F@CK HAVE YOU DONE FOR MILAN TO SAY THAT???MILAN COULD VERY WELL BE A SERIE B TEAM IF HE HADN'T TOOK OVER BUT NO ... INSTAED MILAN IS THE BEST IN THE WORLD!!!YOU SHOULD AT LEAST RESPECT THAT!!!!!!


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Yep, agree with all of your comments.. atm it does not look promising one bit..

Regarding the 2003 champions league team.. the key was how defensively stable we were. We won alot of games without conceding and generally at most conceded a single goal.

The main reason we went so well last season was only cause we scored a **** load of goals. Without king sheva.. I seriously doubt there will be a repeat of that this season.

I wasn't too concerned about the replacement for sheva (IMPOSSIBLE) providing we boosted our defensive line. I'm still hoping the braida surprise is buffon.. and maybe either or both of gallas and oddo.. we can provide a challenge in the champions league this season. Then maybe sign iaquinta or vucinic as a striker we can actually use off the bench.

At the moment I am extremely concerned.. keep checking the football italia site, hoping to see an official milan transfer.

OMG just saw this, this better only be a fucken rumour..

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23-08-2006 14:24


Arsenal and Manchester United are reportedly chasing AC Milan defender Kakha Kaladze, who could be made available.
Il Giornale claim that the Georgian international is ready to leave the San Siro once he has recovered from injury, with the Premiership duo understood to be interested.

The experienced defender is thought to have told coach Carlo Ancellotti of his decision to leave.
Arsenal may be favourites, as they could be seeking a replacement for Chelsea bound defender Ashley Cole.

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post Aug 23 2006, 06:13 PM
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if kaka dont leave this year in my mind i think he will next year, u will see more storys next year, its tough being a milan fan because we seem to lose the players we love, and are geting shite players,the last thing i want is milan to become man utd where most of the top name's dont want to come, ive waited the whole summer checking my pc to see if tervz or torres is coming, put noting just fat ronaldo, dont get me wrong i love ac milan but sometimes its so crap how things are run,i tink its time for them to retire and bring someone with some fresh idea's,bring some young talent.
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QUOTE (dst @ Aug 23 2006, 05:11 PM)
WHAT THE F@CK????
IT'S ONE THING COMPLAINING ABOUT WHAT WE ALL SEE IS KINDA LIKE APATHY AND ANOTHER SAYING GALLIANI AND SILVIO CAN GO TO HELL!!!!!!
WHAT THE F@CK HAVE YOU DONE FOR MILAN TO SAY THAT???MILAN COULD VERY WELL BE A SERIE B TEAM IF HE HADN'T TOOK OVER BUT NO ... INSTAED MILAN IS THE BEST IN THE WORLD!!!YOU SHOULD AT LEAST RESPECT THAT!!!!!!
CIAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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What LaPalma says dst. Chill...vr all on an edge here..ok...Don Silvio's great, his strong willed persona has pulled us through...but u know how it is...when u like a guy a lot u take liberties...so i can say f@ck silvio without any malice...u see...i still like him, just don't like him acting crazy sometimes.

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QUOTE (nmcg @ Aug 23 2006, 06:13 PM)
if kaka dont leave this year in my mind i think he will next year, u will see more storys next year, its tough being a milan fan because we seem to lose the players we love, and are geting shite players,the last thing i want is milan to become man utd where most of the top name's dont want to come, ive waited the whole summer checking my pc to see if tervz or torres is coming, put noting just fat ronaldo, dont get me wrong i love ac milan but sometimes its so crap how things are run,i tink its time for them to retire and bring someone with some fresh idea's,bring some young talent.
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post Aug 23 2006, 06:54 PM
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Milan's management have been weak from the January transfer window.

It was a sign that somethings wrong. When you sign Amoroso and no new defenders.

Problem is Don Silvio turned into a major politician. His attention has not been on Milan for the past several seasons.

He lost the elections and is trying to get back into it.

Galliani is weak and I don't see what good he brings to the club.

There are no replacements for Scheva, you have to face it. We lost 20+ goals. Sobis, Tevez, and Torres are no replacement, except as a future possibility.

Thats why I am optimistic with the possibility of Ronaldo coming, at least he can come and play a forward role. I think Milan will be a new environment where he can work with Cafu, Serginoho, and Kaka. He'll get in shape.

He managed some amazing goals last season with a Madrid that was a shadow of its former self.
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QUOTE (jbryant1 @ Aug 23 2006, 12:54 PM)
Thats why I am optimistic with the possibility of Ronaldo coming, at least he can come and play a forward role. I think Milan will be a new environment where he can work with Cafu, Serginoho, and Kaka. He'll get in shape.

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But how many time do we need to get Ronaldo in shape??? maybe 4 months, IF he doesn´t get injured again. And that IMO is a bet!!

I really hope that right now, Galliani and Silvio are working hard to get reinforcements. You have to remember that a couple of months ago, WE DON´T EVEN KNOW IF MILAN COULD PLAY ON SERIE A, so the other teams are running with a HUGE advantage in the mercato.

Just have some faith people!! we can crucify Silvio if we want, but ONLY when the mercato season is over.
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post Aug 23 2006, 08:04 PM
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http://www.gazzetta.it/appsSondaggi/votazi...&idSondaggio=43

This are results from the poll that Gazzetta did on who could be the most useful player that MILAN should buy

Maybe Berlusconi will see this
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Why everybody acting like transfer window is already close or something. I'm angry too , but we still have time. There will be plenty time for accusation after August 31
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post Aug 23 2006, 08:51 PM
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And I also forgot to mention, Galliani's words contradict eachother and you could call him a liar:

Galliani: "Sheva will be replaced with an equal."

Galliani: "If the deal(Ronaldo) is complete, we will be pleased, if not, we are happy with the players we have."
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post Aug 23 2006, 09:45 PM
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Totally right. At the moment, I'm really dissapointed with the Milan board. We'll be fighting for the 3rd place in Serie A and to get to the quarter finals in the CL.

You can write this down, SPECIALLY if Ronaldo join us. We need a young and quality striker to pair up with the other 2 that we got. Not a fat c_nt. It's a shame for Milan. A SHAME.
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QUOTE (pKillerMax @ Aug 23 2006, 11:51 AM)
And I also forgot to mention, Galliani's words contradict eachother and you could call him a liar:

Galliani: "Sheva will be replaced with an equal."

Galliani: "If the deal(Ronaldo) is complete, we will be pleased, if not, we are happy with the players we have."
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QUOTE (Portugal @ Aug 23 2006, 08:45 PM)


Totally right. At the moment, I'm really dissapointed with the Milan board. We'll be fighting for the 3rd place in Serie A and to get to the quarter finals in the CL.

You can write this down, SPECIALLY if Ronaldo join us. We need a young and quality striker to pair up with the other 2 that we got. Not a fat c_nt. It's a shame for Milan. A SHAME.
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QUOTE (felipe_el_chileno @ Aug 23 2006, 10:08 AM)
But how many time do we need to get Ronaldo in shape??? maybe 4 months, IF he doesn´t get injured again. And that IMO is a bet!!

I really hope that right now, Galliani and Silvio are working hard to get reinforcements. You have to remember that a couple of months ago, WE DON´T EVEN KNOW IF MILAN COULD PLAY ON SERIE A, so the other teams are running with a HUGE advantage in the mercato.

Just have some faith people!! we can crucify Silvio if we want, but ONLY when the mercato season is over.
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No matter what we do at this point its a gamble.

Paying 20 million for Tevez or Torres is gamble in my book. They aren't guarenteed to be superstars in Italy. I do think its worth investing in one of them or both.

Ronaldo is a gamble, and if we could get a good deal on him, its not the end of the world. If they 30 million pounds for him, I'd say its out of the question.
But for 10 million euros, its nothing to Milan. He has the potential to be the best in Italy, but its a gamble.

Again I'm looking realistically at the situation at hand. There were several players in this transfer market that I would pick over Ronaldo but its too late. Milan have sat back watching all big names slip away.

Scheva scored again today---Chelsea lost---Its painful to watch.
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QUOTE (jbryant1 @ Aug 23 2006, 09:05 PM)
No matter what we do at this point its a gamble.

Paying 20 million for Tevez or Torres is gamble in my book. They aren't guarenteed to be superstars in Italy. I do think its worth investing in one of them or both.

Ronaldo is a gamble, and if we could get a good deal on him, its not the end of the world. If they 30 million pounds for him, I'd say its out of the question.
But for 10 million euros, its nothing to Milan. He has the potential to be the best in Italy, but its a gamble.

Again I'm looking realistically at the situation at hand. There were several players in this transfer market that I would pick over Ronaldo but its too late. Milan have sat back watching all big names slip away.

Scheva scored again today---Chelsea lost---Its painful to watch.
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Nope, it's a pleasure to watch! And about Tevez and Torres, they haven't developed to their max. I think we MUST buy some young players, look at our stars. Pirlo, Gattuso and Kaká were all very young when they joined us, so was the Ukrainian.
Ronaldos time is over, he won't be a superstar anywhere aynmore! Not in Italy, not in Spain, nowhere!
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QUOTE (jbryant1 @ Aug 23 2006, 09:05 PM)
Scheva scored again today---Chelsea lost---Its painful to watch.
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So basically when Sheva scores Chelsea lose (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) I'm hoping he gets at least 20 goals now (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

Oh and that's Sheva not Scheva (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
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Mother mary, its happening again ...

A few months ago Don Silvio was a hero to some (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)


Give me a break guys , stop acting like lil kids and at least wait some days . If thats not too much asked (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)
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QUOTE (mishale @ Aug 23 2006, 09:50 PM)
Why everybody acting like transfer window is already close or something. I'm angry too , but we still have time. There will be plenty time for accusation after August 31
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QUOTE (Nova @ Aug 23 2006, 03:27 PM)
Mother mary, its happening again ...

A few months ago Don Silvio was a hero to some  (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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Ok, and if we signed either no one or Ronaldo, then what?
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The single most important thing that any real Milan fan should know when it comes to the summer transfer market is that Galliani lies through his teeth. And why shouldn't he - he's great at it! I've lost count of how many times I've seen the "we're happy with what we've got" line, only for him to spring a suprise and bring in another decent player.

We owe Berlusconi everything, otherwise we'd probably be fighting for promotion in Serie B. I agree that he sometimes makes strange comments etc, but he's always delivered in the transfer market. And if rumours are to be believed, it's not like he's not trying! 75m bid for Ronaldinho!!

Let's not be so quick to jump of the back of the management, who in my eyes, have done an excellent job these last 3 or 4 seasons.

If, come September 1st, we're still in the same position we're in now, then flame away! (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) But at least give them a chance...
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Official pKillerMax communication:
Wednesday, Aug 23.


I will now officially stop bashing the Milan board of management and will wait until September 1st before I make any further judgements.
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QUOTE (pKillerMax @ Aug 24 2006, 01:36 AM)
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That is the best way .. Because in the end, Milan will be THE team that most teams will fear. We are still considered a difficult team to play against, we have proved that in Belgrade.

Galliani saying that 'we will be happy with the players we have' means that Real, you either accept our offer or you can forget about us asking .. and no Kaka is not for sale .. So whats up ?!

Since this morning we have been linked with almost everyone .. This is OUR time in the market .. And we have the upper hand since there is no more competition in the market to match Milan's $$$.
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QUOTE (florenti1 @ Aug 23 2006, 08:04 PM)
http://www.gazzetta.it/appsSondaggi/votazi...&idSondaggio=43

This are results from the poll that Gazzetta did on who could be  the most useful player that MILAN should buy

Maybe Berlusconi will see this
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http://www.tgcom.mediaset.it/sondaggio/ris...aggio.shtml?186

And here's the results from tgcom.it about Ronaldo.

65% - NO
35% - YES

I think acmilan.com should do a poll with the forwards we want most and the one that gets the higher votes should get the attention of the club. The fans aren't stupid y'know.
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QUOTE (X-Offender @ Aug 24 2006, 01:26 AM)
http://www.tgcom.mediaset.it/sondaggio/ris...aggio.shtml?186

And here's the results from tgcom.it about Ronaldo.

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QUOTE (mishale @ Aug 23 2006, 11:31 PM)
I think here it's something like 90% NO and 10% yes
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QUOTE (dst @ Aug 23 2006, 06:11 PM)
WHAT THE F@CK????
IT'S ONE THING COMPLAINING ABOUT WHAT WE ALL SEE IS KINDA LIKE APATHY AND ANOTHER SAYING GALLIANI AND SILVIO CAN GO TO HELL!!!!!!
WHAT THE F@CK HAVE YOU DONE FOR MILAN TO SAY THAT???MILAN COULD VERY WELL BE A SERIE B TEAM IF HE HADN'T TOOK OVER BUT NO ... INSTAED MILAN IS THE BEST IN THE WORLD!!!YOU SHOULD AT LEAST RESPECT THAT!!!!!!
CIAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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Let's not be so quick to jump of the back of the management, who in my eyes, have done an excellent job these last 3 or 4 seasons.

If, come September 1st, we're still in the same position we're in now, then flame away! wink.gif But at least give them a chance...


What m1ke said...exactly what he said! Though if we have j@ck Sh!t on Sep 1st...Silvio better run to some secret vacation villa of his.
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I agree that what we've seen from the Milan board in the past 2 years is in some way carelessness.There have been no real reinforcements for the OBVIOUSLY ageing defence and there's been no real movement to replace Shevchenko. This whole situation is driving me mad, it feels to me like we're driven into some balck period again cause I can't see we spend BIG next summer all of sudden when we are going to have even more and bigger "losses".However I'm not (harshly) hitting on our sleepy board till the end of the month.

On the other hand I don't have the authority to ask you not to do so but therefore I can't take it when people forget!!!! Some guys here have been like "Hey don't bash Sheva he did it for his family ... bla ... bla ... You shouldn't forget what he's offered to Milan ... bla ... bla ... bla" while now they seem to just forget themselves what Silvio's offered to Milan.Heck, who brought Shevchenko here in the first place. When he travelled to Ukraine to persuade his father, was he good back then????

Now I can get your frustration, which is no bigger than mine, but saying Galliani and Berlusconi can go to hell is just TOO BIG AND HARSH!!!! You'll really regret those words when they'll be really gone for good, I'm sure of that!!!!!

Oh and ... X-Offender ... don't be so sure about Kaka; what do you think is going to keep him here when we don't reinforce the team??? (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

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Oh and ... X-Offender ... don't be so sure about Kaka; what do you think is going to keep him here when we don't reinforce the team???  (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
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If Milan will fail this year, I'm pretty sure our board will make big deals for the next season. First of all casue Billy and Paolo will drop it, and then cause Milan can't stay 3 years without a trophy. Believe me, if we don't win anything this season, there will be big movement for the next one.
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QUOTE (dst @ Aug 24 2006, 02:49 PM)
I agree that what we've seen from the Milan board in the past 2 years is in some way carelessness.There have been no real reinforcements for the OBVIOUSLY ageing defence and there's been no real movement to replace Shevchenko. This whole situation is driving me mad, it feels to me like we're driven into some balck period again cause I can't see we spend BIG next summer all of sudden when we are going to have even more and bigger "losses".However I'm not (harshly) hitting on our sleepy board till the end of the month.

On the other hand I don't have the authority to ask you not to do so but therefore I can't take it when people forget!!!! Some guys here have been like "Hey don't bash Sheva he did it for his family ... bla ... bla ... You shouldn't forget what he's offered to Milan ... bla ... bla ... bla" while now they seem to just forget themselves what Silvio's offered to Milan.Heck, who brought Shevchenko here in the first place. When he travelled to Ukraine to persuade his father, was he good back then????

Now I can get your frustration, which is no bigger than mine, but saying Galliani and Berlusconi can go to hell is just TOO BIG AND HARSH!!!! You'll really regret those words when they'll be really gone for good, I'm sure of that!!!!!

Oh and ... X-Offender ... don't be so sure about Kaka; what do you think is going to keep him here when we don't reinforce the team???  (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
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It's exactly what I said on the first hand. I don't deny what Silvio/Galliani did for us in the past 2 decades, they've done a GREAT GREAT job. But right now they screw it up (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
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QUOTE (X-Offender @ Aug 24 2006, 04:32 PM)
If Milan will fail this year, I'm pretty sure our board will make big deals for the next season. First of all casue Billy and Paolo will drop it, and then cause Milan can't stay 3 years without a trophy. Believe me, if we don't win anything this season, there will be big movement for the next one.
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I wish those big movements would have been this summer instead. Two years without a single trophy is also on the verge of unacceptable for a club like Milan, even though they've faced stiff competition. This is turning out to be the worse mercato in years for Milan, but let's do like dst says: wait for another week before we officially execute Silvio and Adriano...
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even though I said all of the above I'd still hate Berlusconi from the very deep of my heart if he ever sold Kaka!!!!!!!!! (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)
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Would signing Ronaldo be such a disaster? I don't think so. It certainly is risky though. But where are the alternatives? Torres is good. No doubt about that, but can he justify the 30mill pounds he's likely to cost in a difficult league and perform where some of his compatriots (Jose Mari, etc) failed? Tevez - if he's that good, why has he failed to get a team in europe so far, despite his agent's efforts in the past two seasons? Iaquinta? Don't even talk about that. The available talents, Milan quality that is, is really in short supply at the moment. That's why I believe Ronaldo still have something to offer. He's certainly one of the best out there if motivated and on form. He's yet to win the scudetto and the cl. He still wants to play for the Brazil and Dunga has made it clear that he has to shed some weight to be in the NT. To me, the above are enough to motivate him, plus he wants out of Real. Milan Lab can take care of that waisteline of his if he comes. But, I think 20mill is way too much considering his age, the uncertainty of whether he would be back to his best or not. 15-17mill is okay I believe. It is risky as I said, but worth it at the right price.
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Ok, and if we signed either no one or Ronaldo, then what?
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You made my point (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
It's exactly what I said on the first hand. I don't deny what Silvio/Galliani did for us in the past 2 decades, they've done a GREAT GREAT job. But right now they screw it up (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
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QUOTE (berenike_10 @ Aug 25 2006, 07:52 PM)
I agree with la palma.. we need a new magament.. i mean thank you silvio for this 20 years... but.. we need to change , milan need to change...
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How can you say that? I know I complained before about what we have been doing in the transfer market, and I'm still not totally setisfied because I still think we need a couple of defenders and maybe another forward, but I would never suggest that Silvio should leave.

Milan have become one of the most successful teams in the world because of Silvio, he is the driving force behind Milan and if he ever decided to sell Milan I don't know if we would be able to stay on top and competing for every trophy till the end every year.
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Would signing Ronaldo be such a disaster? I don't think so. It certainly is risky though. But where are the alternatives? Torres is good. No doubt about that, but can he justify the 30mill pounds he's likely to cost in a difficult league and perform where some of his compatriots (Jose Mari, etc) failed? Tevez - if he's that good, why has he failed to get a team in europe so far, despite his agent's efforts in the past two seasons? Iaquinta? Don't even talk about that. The available talents, Milan quality that is, is really in short supply at the moment. That's why I believe Ronaldo still have something to offer. He's certainly one of the best out there if motivated and on form. He's yet to win the scudetto and the cl. He still wants to play for the Brazil and Dunga has made it clear that he has to shed some weight to be in the NT. To me, the above are enough to motivate him, plus he wants out of Real. Milan Lab can take care of that waisteline of his if he comes. But, I think 20mill is way too much considering his age, the uncertainty of whether he would be back to his best or not. 15-17mill is okay I believe. It is risky as I said, but worth it at the right price.
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You forgot to mention the guy with which I may annoy this entire forum...Miroslav Klose! he surely is in much better shape than Fatnaldo, has the experience and doesn't have to adapt to European football as well. But our board doesn't seem to be interested in him.

Btw, I don't think our management CAN be replaced, Silvio is not only the president, he's the club owner as well. So it'll be little difficult to bust him out...
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Silvio out?? That would mean the end of AC Milan.
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Silvio out?? That would mean the end of AC Milan.
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I **** my pants just thinking Milan without Silvio ... this joke must stop now!!!
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Unless of course Barbara wanted to take over...I'd loooove to be her assistant (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Aug 26 2006, 12:46 AM)
Unless of course Barbara wanted to take over...I'd loooove to be her assistant (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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and what the hell makes you think she'd pick you over me Jack!!!
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Coz I told her u were cheating on her with Veronica Lario...no girl likes to be two timed.. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) Always be careful what u post on the forum....revealing secrets in a public venue..tsk tsk...dst u amateur!!!! (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
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QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Aug 26 2006, 12:55 AM)
Coz I told her u were cheating on her with Veronica Lario...no girl likes to be two timed.. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)   Always be careful what u post on the forum....revealing secrets in a public venue..tsk tsk...dst u amateur!!!! (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
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well Veronica is her mother ... you think we didn't try a threesome??? Silly Jack!!!!

HA (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/devil.gif) HA (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/devil.gif) HA
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(IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) She got sick of sharing u...i guess...said u were not 'endowed' enough to handle them both....while me I'm 'Milan-quality'....(IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
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Not capable!!!???? (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif)
hey you don't want me to unleash the .... Nah I'll scare you away!!!
she loves me!!!!

I'm a beatiful and talented defender ... and you know she likes tal... well ... defenders!!! (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
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Haha...little do u guys know (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) about the real nasty guy in this forum (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)
She likes defenders...don't you thin she likes nasty defenders more like....me?

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QUOTE (LaPalma @ Aug 26 2006, 01:11 AM)
Haha...little do u guys know (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) about the real nasty guy in this forum (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)
She likes defenders...don't you thin she likes nasty defenders more like....me?
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yeah suddenly everyone's doing my precious little girl ... move off would you!!???
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YOUR little gal??? (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) Your girl is Veronica Lario...mine is Barbara...LaPalma can have Ronaldo's girlfriend...everybody is happy!!
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Oh yeah...LaPalma...you really should push off,Barbara doesn't like being mobbed (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) ...surely a big nasty defender can get some nice German girl...Claudia Schiffer perhaps...or that other girl Diane Kruger...
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QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Aug 25 2006, 10:18 PM)
YOUR little gal??? (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)   Your girl is Veronica Lario...mine is Barbara...LaPalma can have Ronaldo's girlfriend...everybody is happy!!
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I would want Rafael van der Vaarts wife, but Barbara would be very angry with me, and she's such a hot tempered girl ouch. I don't wanna risk it. Especially when Silvio finds out. I'm quoting a really bd german actor who once performed in a James Bond movie
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Barbara Berlusconi has just announced that henceforth all affairs of her heart shall be handled by Jack Sparrow. She made the following statement, "I was so sick and tired of a few Greeks and Germans claiming a relationship with me which absolutely did not exist! Dst? Well I know for a fact that he's with my mother, and all the talks about the 3-some came from the same reporter @ the Maracana who said Sobis was Santander's for sure and some other BS. I'm totally in love with Jack and he is definitely MILAN-QUALITY...I prefer CDMs to defenders anyway.


The above is a transcript from a recent interview Babara gave to a lifestyle magazine...
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QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Aug 26 2006, 12:47 PM)
The above is a transcript from a recent interview Babara gave to a lifestyle magazine...
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