[Portman]

http://globoesporte.globo.com/ESP/Noticia/...78-1306,00.html

It's in here. A brazillian website, saying that Milan is after him.

They're saying that Milan consider Sobis > Tevez (for me they're =), so they are going to Brazil after him on the next days.

This is today's new in Brazil.

Oh men, this transfer would be HUGE. Inter wanted him last year... but they got nothing.

He plays TODAY the 2nd leg of the Copa Libertadores final, that is the Champions League final of South America. I'll watch the match. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

More info about him: http://www.milanfan.com/forums/index.php?s...t=0&#entry31738 (I wrote something about him in other section of the forum)

This post has been edited by Portugal: Aug 16 2006, 01:48 AM

[han2503]

If he's as good as you said then I would be happy with him being our surprise.

But is he the Sheva type or the Gila type, does he make dribbles and assits or just waits for the ball to come and just puts it in? I've never seen him play that's why I'm asking

[X-Offender]

If he's as good as you said then I would be happy with him being our surprise.

But is he the Sheva type or the Gila type, does he make dribbles and assits or just waits for the ball to come and just puts it in? I've never seen him play that's why I'm asking

I heard he's the Montella type, but also can dribble and make assists. I saw a clip about him and I think he's very talented. Definitely should take him.

This post has been edited by X-Offender: Aug 16 2006, 02:19 AM

[Portman]

But is he the Sheva type or the Gila type, does he make dribbles and assits or just waits for the ball to come and just puts it in? I've never seen him play that's why I'm asking

Sheva type. Def'. That's why we should get him.
If he wasn't that type, I wouldn't be writting this new and all this stuff. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)

[KillerMax]

Well this would certainly make me happy...

So Portugal, how do you see his chances of coming to Milan? Do you think it's just a stupid rumor or will we go for him?

This post has been edited by pKillerMax: Aug 16 2006, 02:47 AM

[Portman]

So Portugal, how do you see his chances of coming to Milan? Do you think it's just a stupid rumor or will we go for him?

At the moment, with that Ibra, Crespo b/s all over the papers I can't say anything. I'm still a little bit disappointed.

Well, this new was on MediaSet (Don Silvio press), and Brazil's paper.
But it can be b/s too. Don't forget MediaSet said Ibra would join Milan too... (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

Our doubts are only going to be confirmed on the 31st of August at 23:59.

PS: Milan and Inter were tracking him last year. But, got nothing. Let's see it now.

[jbryant1]

Milan surely has a great ability at picking youth with potential.

He scored 2 goals in the final today.

Portugal you called it.

You can see them here....

goals

This post has been edited by jbryant1: Aug 16 2006, 05:15 AM

[KillerMax]

Milan surely has a great ability at picking youth with potential.

He scored 2 goals in the final today.

Portugal you called it.

You can see them here....

goals

Those can't be the goals from today... Someone left a comment on that video 3 days ago. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

[florenti1]

I think i like the idea of buying this player
He is brazilian he is probably talented and i think we dont have to pay 30m euro for him
I mean he is not a "big name" on football pages
At least not yet!
But i dont think we should take him as Sheva replacement. He has to confirm the expectations first
We could take him and sell Amoroso

[Portman]

He scored 2 goals in the final today.

goals

That goals are from 1 week ago. The first leg. Away. That first goal is simply amazing.

The 2nd leg is today. He can become South American champion.

[YoungGun]

Tks Portugal for this new. I will be happy if it will be true.

[Nova]

I mean he is not a "big name" on football pages
At least not yet!
But i dont think we should take him as Sheva replacement. He has to confirm the expectations first
We could take him and sell Amoroso

What does it matter if he's a big name or not. If he's good he's good. We're not Inter or Real.

And why not using him as a replacement ? When sheva was bought they didnt intend to play him as a 3rd striker. He was there too to replace both bierhoff & Weah.

In the end , the last thing i care about is if he's as good as sheva. Sheva who ? Just score the goals ... (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/king.gif)

[Portman]

Milan After Young Brazilian - The Rossoneri are following Rafael Sobis.

(IMG:http://www.goal.com/images/12982_news.jpg)

Milan are currently searching for a striker who can replace Andriy Shevchenko upfront, with Ronaldo, Drogba and Iaquinta being the likely favourites.

However, in the meantime another player has entered the Rossoneri's shortlist and that is Rafael Sobis.

The 21-year-old is currently playing for International di Porto Alegre after a year with Corinthians.

GOAL.com

(IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)

@Nova, good post.

[LaPalma]

It seems, he's a quite promising player for the future. I really hope he'll sign with us. In the end the most important thing is, that we get a playing striker, Sobis seems to be one, and he's far away from the usual Milan transfer age (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

[Portman]

Now channel4 link him with us. - Sobis next on Milan list

http://www.channel4.com/sport/football_italia/aug16e.html

[Captain Ambro]

I like that Milan are going after younger players. Rossi, Sobis, Torres and Tevez.
Is this the first step for a new Milan side? One can't help wondering...

[X-Offender]

I like that Milan are going after younger players. Rossi, Sobis, Torres and Tevez.
Is this the first step for a new Milan side? One can't help wondering...

Sorry to say this guys, but I highly doubt Milan are after Rossi, Tevez or even Sobis. That's just media speculation. I really hope I'm wrong, cause I wont of them more than you do.

[Diavolo]

I really hope we sign him. With him, Kaka and Gila we would have very energetic and young attack. I just hope that I won't be disapointed AGAIN (mostly after Zambrotta and Ibra)!
MILAN WAKE UP, BUY AND DON'T WAIT TOO LONG (WE HAVE ENOUGH MONEY AND WE DON'T NEED TO WAIT FOR THE CL - because with players that we have now, we won't win scudetto - hope I am very wrong)!

It would be perfect if this year we buy Sobis and Ronaldo (better solution that Iaquinta) and sell Amoroso and Borriello, so that we would have two 1.strikers (box) Inzaghi, Gilardino and two 2.strikers Sobis and Ronaldo. Next year we sell Ronaldo (but if he performs well we can keep him for a season or two (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) ) and get Torres and the year after when Inzaghi retires we buy Huntelaar (box striker) from Ayax to replace Pippo.

2006/2007: Inzaghi, Gilardino, Sobis, Ronaldo
2007/2008: Inzaghi, Gilardino, Sobis, Torres (+Ronaldinho?)
2008/2009: Gilardino, Sobis, Torres, Huntelaar (+Ronaldinho)

With this we would have each season two 1. strikers and two 2. strikers with delux of Kaka, Gourcuff (in the first two seasons) and Ronaldinho (from the third on) in our attack.

Guys if we won't to win everything in each season we have to have 4 attackers and 2 offensive midfielders. CL, Scudetto and Coppa Italia (yes even that (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) ) = more than 60 games in one season, not including national games, injuries... - so we need so many attack mineded players.

p.s.: In addition to that we will HAVE TO BUY DEFENDERS, SOME MIDFIELDER AND A NEW GOALIE. In this 3 seasons I mean (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) !

[LaPalma]

Sorry to say this guys, but I highly doubt Milan are after Rossi, Tevez or even Sobis. That's just media speculation. I really hope I'm wrong, cause I wont of them more than you do.

Yap...we're never going to get Tevez, Rossi or Torres. I don't know about Sobis, but I have a feeling he might be the surprise...

[acluda]

he could be just what the doctor ordered.....remember when kaka came over from brasil and he was "young and inexperienced". i would be glad to see him in the red and black

[planck]

I really hope we sign him. With him, Kaka and Gila we would have very energetic and young attack. I just hope that I won't be disapointed AGAIN (mostly after Zambrotta and Ibra)!
MILAN WAKE UP, BUY AND DON'T WAIT TOO LONG (WE HAVE ENOUGH MONEY AND WE DON'T NEED TO WAIT FOR THE CL - because with players that we have now, we won't win scudetto - hope I am very wrong)!

It would be perfect if this year we buy Sobis and Ronaldo (better solution that Iaquinta) and sell Amoroso and Borriello, so that we would have two 1.strikers (box) Inzaghi, Gilardino and two 2.strikers Sobis and Ronaldo. Next year we sell Ronaldo (but if he performs well we can keep him for a season or two (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) ) and get Torres and the year after when Inzaghi retires we buy Huntelaar (box striker) from Ayax to replace Pippo.

2006/2007: Inzaghi, Gilardino, Sobis, Ronaldo
2007/2008: Inzaghi, Gilardino, Sobis, Torres (+Ronaldinho?)
2008/2009: Gilardino, Sobis, Torres, Huntelaar (+Ronaldinho)

With this we would have each season two 1. strikers and two 2. strikers with delux of Kaka, Gourcuff (in the first two seasons) and Ronaldinho (from the third on) in our attack.

Guys if we won't to win everything in each season we have to have 4 attackers and 2 offensive midfielders. CL, Scudetto and Coppa Italia (yes even that (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) ) = more than 60 games in one season, not including national games, injuries... - so we need so many attack mineded players.

p.s.: In addition to that we will HAVE TO BUY DEFENDERS, SOME MIDFIELDER AND A NEW GOALIE. In this 3 seasons I mean (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) !

If this come true, we'll be indestructable!!! (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/king.gif)
I don't know if you saw Huntelaar in Ajax's win over FC Copenhagen?

[Captain Ambro]

Sorry to say this guys, but I highly doubt Milan are after Rossi, Tevez or even Sobis. That's just media speculation. I really hope I'm wrong, cause I wont of them more than you do.

Well, actually there hasn't been any rumour about Milan wanting Rossi, just that Rossi wanted to come to Milan, so I'd say the chances of him being a Milan-player for this season is about 0%.
Torres is a confirmed interest, and has been for a very long time(2-3 years), but I just can't see that deal happening. There's just way too many factors standing in the way.
Tevez is another player that I feel is a long shot. Can't see that transfer happening either, but then again there's still 2 weeks until the window closes and absolutely EVERYTHING can happen until then.
Then we have Sobis, which I actually believe is a valid rumour. Leonardo's great contacts in Brazil along with the similarity of Kakás transfer 3 years ago, are the things that make me believe the most. Plus, the proposed Ronaldo-deal has probably fallen apart, which I think will see Milan chase after Sobis.

Now, this is of course only my own thoughts and speculations...



@Diavolo:

I think you're underestimating the quality of this Milan-squad. To buy those kind of high quality attackers and having players like Sobis and Huntelaar on the bench for most of the season as you're suggesting, would just be wrong. And then you want to add Ronnie to those players? It would create disharmoni like h*ll within the squad.
In the future we surely need to buy some defenders to replace Maldini, Costacurta and possibly also Cafú but don't forget we have a lot of quality defenders already, even if some of them are closing in on retirement. I'd love to get a player like Gallas this summer, but if we didn't, it certainly wouldn't be the end of the world.

This post has been edited by Captain Ambro: Aug 16 2006, 04:50 PM

[jbryant1]

Milan have to do something.

Signing Iaquinta is not going to cut it. We need playmaking goal scorers.
Sobris, Torres, and Tevez are young and have potential.

Torres pretty much is already top notch but the price they want for him is crack prices.

[Rossoneri7]

In the future we surely need to buy some defenders to replace Maldini, Costacurta and possibly also Cafú but don't forget we have a lot of quality defenders already, even if some of them are closing in on retirement. I'd love to get a player like Gallas this summer, but if we didn't, it certainly wouldn't be the end of the world.

R you sure it wouldnt be the end of the world ?! Last season was a demonstration of how weak our defence looked like .. It wasn't up to par w/ what we have come to know as the solid Italian defence. Do you honestly think that the likes of Bonera and Favalli can keep Ronaldinho, Henry, Adriano, etc .. quite, not to mention Shevchenko .. ??

I think it would be the end of the world of 'competitive competitions' .. If we go on with (hurts to say this) Maldini and Costacurta as our reliable duo.

I like the Nesta and Kaladze partnership, but it's a long season and you never know what might happen as the season is long ..

[KillerMax]

R you sure it wouldnt be the end of the world ?! Last season was a demonstration of how weak our defence looked like .. It wasn't up to par w/ what we have come to know as the solid Italian defence. Do you honestly think that the likes of Bonera and Favalli can keep Ronaldinho, Henry, Adriano, etc .. quite, not to mention Shevchenko .. ??

I think it would be the end of the world of 'competitive competitions' .. If we go on with (hurts to say this) Maldini and Costacurta as our reliable duo.

I like the Nesta and Kaladze partnership, but it's a long season and you never know what might happen as the season is long ..

If Maldini gets back to 100% again he will be the best in the world again... Who said Maldini is weak now? Forget his age, just look back at last season before he got injured... He was top notch! He just faded away after he got injured. With Nesta, Maldini, Bonera and Kaladze in our defence, I'm more than content for now! We will replace those who retire next season. No need to get all nervous now.
Our only weak point is our attack! We need to get a top notch striker and we will be more than fine for next season. Then we'll show the world who's boss! Bring it on! Forza Milan!

[X-Offender]

I think our defence is fine, but we absolutely need another right back, like Oddo for example. If we get him then we might aswell sell Simic to Torino or somewhere else and our defence should look like this:

RB: Cafu, Oddo
CB: Nesta, Kaladze, Maldini, Costacurta, Favalli, Bonera
LB: Serghino, Jankulovski

Not to mention that Bonera can play in the right wing just like Favalli and Kaladze can play in the left one in case of emergency.

[KillerMax]

38 goals in 131 games.... hmm... That's not very impressive... (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) Torres has scored twice that amount in almost same apps. Now that's why I want Torres! This guy could be our 4th striker.

This post has been edited by pKillerMax: Aug 17 2006, 07:06 AM

[GULLIVER]

I'd say I liked how he plays. That's pretty much what we need today. So let's take him, may be he'll have fortune of Kaka!

[X-Offender]

38 goals in 131 games.... hmm... That's not very impressive... (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) Torres has scored twice that amount in almost same apps. Now that's why I want Torres! This guy could be our 4th striker.

No, if we'll sign him then he'll definitely be our first striker. I saw him last night and he was pretty impressive.

[Portman]

I'm hearing a debate on TV Record (Brazillian TV)... some famous soccer commentators, and one said that 1 agent from Milan is now flying to Porto Alegre in Brazil to sign Rafael Sobis for 12M-euros.

I don't know if this is for real, or b/s...

This post has been edited by Portugal: Aug 17 2006, 05:44 PM

[KillerMax]

I'm hearing a debate on TV Record (Brazillian TV)... some famous soccer commentators, and one said that 1 agent from Milan is now flying to Porto Alegre in Brazil to sign Rafael Sobis for 12M-euros.

I don't know if this is for real, or b/s...

Probably true by the sounds of it. But not sure if they will reach an agreement.

[Portman]

Probably true by the sounds of it. But not sure if they will reach an agreement.

His agent confirmed that on last February/March, Milan made a offer of 8M-euros for him but Internacional reject it.

I think 12-15... would be suitable.

This post has been edited by Portugal: Aug 17 2006, 06:06 PM

[KillerMax]

His agent confirmed that on last February/March, Milan made a offer of 8M-euros for him but Internacional reject it.

I think 12-15... would be suitable.

I really don't think he is worth that much! I really really don't! When Liverpool can sign Kuyt for 9 million, then IMO Sobis is not worth more than 8. I'm still confused why we didn't go after Kuyt. He could become our next big striker. Just take a look at his scoring record:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dirk_Kuyt

[GULLIVER]

I really don't think he is worth that much! I really really don't! When Liverpool can sign Kuyt for 9 million, then IMO Sobis is not worth more than 8. I'm still confused why we didn't go after Kuyt. He could become our next big striker. Just take a look at his scoring record:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dirk_Kuyt

why do you always talk about scoring records??? (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)

[Portman]

I really don't think he is worth that much! I really really don't! When Liverpool can sign Kuyt for 9 million, then IMO Sobis is not worth more than 8. I'm still confused why we didn't go after Kuyt. He could become our next big striker. Just take a look at his scoring record:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dirk_Kuyt

Kuyt is b/s. Against big teams he's a zero. I don't even think he's a player for Liverpool...

And you can't compare a brazillian to a dutch. And a 21 to a 26 yo foward...

For me, Sobis >>> Kuyt. Really. Anytime.

This post has been edited by Portugal: Aug 17 2006, 06:39 PM

[Portman]

AC Milan eyeing Internacional star Sobis
tribalfooball.com - August 17, 2006

AC Milan are being linked with Internacional de Porto Alegre striker Rafael Sobis.

The 21 year-old has just fired Internacional to success in this year's Copa Libertadores and is now ready to move to Europe.

Internacional are seeking £7 million for Sobis, whose agent was a frequent visitor to Milan last season where talks with both Inter and AC Milan were held.

£7 million = 10,5 million Euros (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

[felipe_el_chilen...]

£15 million for Sorbis, £20 million for Tevez and £4 million for Oddo and we´re ready to kick some Chelski A-S-S!!

This post has been edited by felipe_el_chileno: Aug 17 2006, 06:57 PM

[KillerMax]

£7 million = 10,5 million Euros  (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

lol pounds... my mistake. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) Why do I look at scoring records? Because that's what you look at when you buy a striker? Just look at all the big strikers in the world, they all have a similar goal scoring record! And then look at some of the not so great strikers, they have a smiliar record too. I think Sobis is somewhere in between. Anyways, all things considered my choice is Torres > Tevez > Sobis

[Portman]

lol pounds... my mistake. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) Why do I look at scoring records? Because that's what you look at when you buy a striker? Just look at all the big strikers in the world, they all have a similar goal scoring record! And then look at some of the not so great strikers, they have a smiliar record too. I think Sobis is somewhere in between. Anyways, all things considered my choice is Torres > Tevez > Sobis

I think it depends. At the moment we don't need a pure in-box striker. Those are who score "a lot", like Trezeguet, Nistelrooy... etc

We need someone to help Gilardino or Pippo. And obviously who can score too... but, not only that.

You shouldn't go by scoring records. If everybody was like that, they'll think that Pauleta is a very good striker, when he's pure b/s... the worst striker I have ever seen.

This post has been edited by Portugal: Aug 17 2006, 07:08 PM

[GULLIVER]

I think it depends. At the moment we don't need a pure in-box striker. Those are who score "a lot", like Trezeguet, Nistelrooy... etc

We need someone to help Gilardino or Pippo. And obviously who can score too... but, not only that.

You shouldn't go by scoring records. If everybody was like that, they'll think that Pauleta is a very good striker, when he's pure b/s... the worst striker I have ever seen.

exactly

[KillerMax]

I think it depends. At the moment we don't need a pure in-box striker. Those are who score "a lot", like Trezeguet, Nistelrooy... etc

We need someone to help Gilardino or Pippo. And obviously who can score too... but, not only that.

You shouldn't go by scoring records. If everybody was like that, they'll think that Pauleta is a very good striker, when he's pure b/s... the worst striker I have ever seen.

Well Sheva was our 'not-in-box' striker and he was our top scorer too. You make a good point with Pauleta, but I'm afraid Sobis can't score as much as we expect him to. I'm in no position to judge him, since I don't know him well enough, but looking at his scoring record, he is definitely not as lethal as Sheva and we lost Sheva. You see what I mean?

[X-Offender]

Well Sheva was our 'not-in-box' striker and he was our top scorer too. You make a good point with Pauleta, but I'm afraid Sobis can't score as much as we expect him to. I'm in no position to judge him, since I don't know him well enough, but looking at his scoring record, he is definitely not as lethal as Sheva and we lost Sheva. You see what I mean?

Messi doesn't and will never have the same scoring record Sheva has, but that doesn't make him an inferior player.

[KillerMax]

Messi doesn't and will never have the same scoring record Sheva has, but that doesn't make him an inferior player.

Sure as hell does. That's why Sheva was the best in the world when he was with us. He did almost everything. Messi might be fun to watch, but he doesn't have the same impact as Sheva. At least not yet. Sheva and Henry are two complete strikers who can almost do anything and that's why they are regarded as the best. Messi has time and he will definitely become very important, but in a Maradona way, not in a Van Basten way, if you catch my drift. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

This post has been edited by pKillerMax: Aug 17 2006, 07:40 PM

[Portman]

BREAKING NEWS IN BRAZIL

Sobis pode ser vendido nesta quinta
Empresário do jovem atacante confirma a negociação com o Milan

http://globoesporte.globo.com/ESP/Noticia/...16-4410,00.html

Translating... "Sobis can be sold THIS THURSDAY"

"His agent confirmed Milan negotiations... but no deal yet. Can be really soon."

"Some Milan agent were last night at the stadium watching Libertadores final and were delighted by Sobis"

"Another source says that Milan will buy him for 8M-euros"

This post has been edited by Portugal: Aug 17 2006, 07:44 PM

[KillerMax]

BREAKING NEWS IN BRAZIL
Translating... "Sobis can be sold THIS THURSDAY"

"His agent confirmed Milan negotiations... but no deal yet. Can be really soon."

"Some Milan agent were last night at the stadium watching Libertadores final and were delighted by Sobis"

"Another source says that Milan will buy him for 8M-euros"

Great news! Sounds like he will be ours soon! (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

[Captain Ambro]

Dunga has picked Sobis for the two friendlies against Argentina and Wales in the beginning of september. That's really something!

[KillerMax]

Dunga has picked Sobis for the two friendlies against Argentina and Wales in the beginning of september. That's really something!

Yeah, considering he left out Adriano and Ronaldo.

[Portman]

Dunga has picked Sobis for the two friendlies against Argentina and Wales in the beginning of september. That's really something!

Yup. He deserves it. Dunga is doing a revolution on the NT. I agree. Brazil needs that.

But he was a regular presence on the under-21 and that:

(IMG:http://us.news1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/fifa/gen/fifa/20060213/i/3845816940.jpg)

This post has been edited by Portugal: Aug 17 2006, 08:28 PM

[dudernahata]

this guy looks promising

[Portman]

Milan: quasi fatta per il brasiliano Sobis
22:01 del 17 agosto : Calciomercato.com

Momento magico per Rafael Sobis. Dopo aver vinto la Coppa Libertadores in finale contro il San Paolo, l'attaccante brasiliano è ormai prossimo al trasferimento in Europa.
In pole position per il suo acquisto c'è il Milan. Nelle prossime ore si terrà l'incontro decisivo tra i rossoneri ed i dirigenti dell'Internacional. Se tutto andrà per il verso giusto, l'annuncio ufficiale potrebbe anche arrivare nella giornata di venerdì.

Il presidente del club brasiliano di Porto Alegre, Fernando Carvalho ha dichiarato: "Non abbiamo già venduto il giocatore, ma ci sono dei contatti".

Translation:

"Milan: Sobis deal - almost done"

"In the next few hours, it will be a meeting Internacional-Milan to seal the deal"

"It can be official by tomorrow (Friday)"

Internacional President's "We haven't sold the player, but we're having contacts"

This post has been edited by Portugal: Aug 17 2006, 11:36 PM

[KillerMax]

Translation:

"Milan: Sobis deal - almost done"

"In the next few hours, it will be a meeting Internacional-Milan to seal the deal"

"It can be official by tomorrow (Friday)"

Internacional President's "We haven't sold the player, but we're having contacts"

So this is almost a done deal?

So it will be like Pippo, Gila, Sobis, Amoroso? I'm still not convinced! I heard Sobis is really good but he is more of a winger... If we manage to get him and Tevez or him and Torres then I will be a happy man!

[LaPalma]

Translation:

"Milan: Sobis deal - almost done"

"In the next few hours, it will be a meeting Internacional-Milan to seal the deal"

"It can be official by tomorrow (Friday)"

Internacional President's "We haven't sold the player, but we're having contacts"

Good news. Although I've never seen him actually play, the compilation of him and his goals I've seen seem very promising. I hope he'll manage to adapt to European football soon ( IF this really is not a rumour...). He's definetely a better choice than the old Fatnaldo!

[misha]

So this is almost a done deal?

So it will be like Pippo, Gila, Sobis, Amoroso? I'm still not convinced! I heard Sobis is really good but he is more of a winger... If we manage to get him and Tevez or him and Torres then I will be a happy man!

Yea , I agree with you Sobis still a gamble and they are talking also with Tevez agents. So I think it's likely to be Pippo, Gila, Sobis, Tevez .

[Portman]

Yea , I agree with you Sobis still a gamble and they are talking also with Tevez agents. So I think it's likely to be Pippo, Gila, Sobis, Tevez .

That'll be amazing but I doubt on Tevez. He's too much $$$... I really doubt Milan will give 18-25M for him.

I just hope they kick Amoroso out of Milano.

At least this: Inzaghi, Gilardino, Sobis and Borriello.

If you are right, and we get Pippo, Gila, Sobis, Tevez... I'll have champagne at 31st August dinner. That will be superb. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

This post has been edited by Portugal: Aug 18 2006, 12:05 AM

[misha]

Carintians wants 19M euro for Tevez. I think it's fair. It's leaves enough for Oddo and Sobis

This post has been edited by mishale: Aug 18 2006, 12:13 AM

[adooooo]

We are only allowed to buy one player that is not from an EU-country.
So both Tevez and Sobis at the same season is almost impossible.

[KillerMax]

That'll be amazing but I doubt on Tevez. He's too much $$$... I really doubt Milan will give 18-25M for him.

I just hope they kick Amoroso out of Milano.

At least this: Inzaghi, Gilardino, Sobis and Borriello.

If you are right, and we get Pippo, Gila, Sobis, Tevez... I'll have champagne at 31st August dinner. That will be superb. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

Amoroso>Borriello
Boriello is 24 and he still hasn't done anything! I don't like Amoroso either, but he does have pretty good technique and vision. If we get Sobis and Tevez together, I will simply shut up! I will never criticise the Milan transfer policy again. Here is my word! (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

[Portman]

We are only allowed to buy one player that is not from an EU-country.
So both Tevez and Sobis at the same season is almost impossible.

Are you sure? Hum...

[KillerMax]

We are only allowed to buy one player that is not from an EU-country.
So both Tevez and Sobis at the same season is almost impossible.

Almost impossible? Can someone clear this up?

Well I guess if this is true then I want Torres!

[Portman]

Amoroso>Borriello
Boriello is 24 and he still hasn't done anything! I don't like Amoroso either, but he does have pretty good technique and vision. If we get Sobis and Tevez together, I will simply shut up! I will never criticise the Milan transfer policy again. Here is my word! (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

But Amoroso is damn old. I want someone who runs. At least run. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

And yes. If we get Tevez+Sobis pack I'll never criticise our board transfer-politic again. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

[misha]

Almost impossible? Can someone clear this up?

Well I guess if this is true then I want Torres!

We can't sign two players with non EU-country passport but Sobis has Ukrainian passport so I think it's o.k

[adooooo]

Yeah i am 99% sure it is like that.
The only way we could bring both of them at the same season would be if one of them has an EU-membership.

[KillerMax]

We can't sign two players with non EU-country passport but Sobis has Ukrainian passport so I think it's o.k

What the?? Ukranian passport? A blond Brazilian with blue eyes and a Ukranian passport playing for an Italian club... It's a bit funny. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

[jbryant1]

Hopefully we can pull off two in the Sobis, Tevez and Torres speculation.

Good thing is that were rebuilding with youth.

We need fresh blood with a winning spirit.

Ronaldo's about Ronaldo--He's lost his edge---He's very injury prone as well. Luxa bet big on him at Real last season and he got injured.

[Portman]

We can't sign two players with non EU-country passport but Sobis has Ukrainian passport so I think it's o.k

What'a? Is that true? (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

Maybe he got Sheva's passport. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

[misha]

What'a? Is that true?  (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

Yea ,he has Ukrainian heritage

[han2503]

Yea ,he has Ukrainian heritage

Really this is starting to get freakish (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

[KillerMax]

Yea ,he has Ukrainian heritage

How about an American wife? And a hidden desire to learn English?

(IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

[Portman]

Yea ,he has Ukrainian heritage

Are you sure? Any source?

'cause I though he was a real 100% brazillian. Well... he paints(<- NOT PAINTS, IT'S DYE!) his hair with yellow... but still brazillian. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

This post has been edited by Portugal: Aug 18 2006, 01:06 AM

[misha]

How about an American wife? And a hidden desire to learn English?

(IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

(IMG:http://www.asoccer.co.il/forum/html/emoticons/lol.gif) (IMG:http://www.asoccer.co.il/forum/html/emoticons/aaagathering.gif)

[han2503]

Are you sure? Any source?

'cause I though he was a real 100% brazillian. Well... he paints his hair with yellow... but still brazillian.  (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

Paints, LOL that's the first time I heard that being said about dyde hair

This post has been edited by han2503: Aug 18 2006, 01:08 AM

[misha]

Are you sure? Any source?

'cause I though he was a real 100% brazillian. Well... he paints his hair with yellow... but still brazillian.  (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

I'm originally from Ukraine so I have read that on ukrainian sites. One time Dinamo Kiev wanted to sign him and Ukraine wanted to recruit him

This post has been edited by mishale: Aug 18 2006, 12:59 AM

[KillerMax]

Are you sure? Any source?

'cause I though he was a real 100% brazillian. Well... he paints his hair with yellow... but still brazillian.  (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

(IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) He paints his hair! (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
Sorry Portugal, that's just too funny! (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
You mean he colors his hair, or he dyes it.

[Portman]

(IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)   (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)   (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) He paints his hair! (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)   (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
Sorry Portugal, that's just too funny! (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
You mean he colors his hair, or he dyes it.

I'm no english teacher. I basically know some English, Italian, Spanish, French and Portuguese. (That's why I translate...)

It's not many langs, but I do what I can.

Sometimes... sh#t happens. Well, the important thing is understand what the person is saying. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

PS: I forget that word: dye. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

[KillerMax]

I'm no english teacher. I basically know some English, Italian, Spanish, French and Portuguese. (That's why I translate...)

It's not many langs, but I do what I can.

Sometimes... sh#t happens. Well, the important thing is understand what the person is saying. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

PS: I forget that word: dye.  (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

It's all cool man! (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) There is only 1 portugal!

[han2503]

I'm no english teacher. I basically know some English, Italian, Spanish, French and Portuguese. (That's why I translate...)

It's not many langs, but I do what I can.

Sometimes... sh#t happens. Well, the important thing is understand what the person is saying. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

PS: I forget that word: dye.  (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

Not a lot (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif) (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif)

I barely know how to speak my own language and English, let alone all those languages you mentioned. I took French for 5 years at school and all I learned was J'amapelle and Alloz

[Portman]

Not a lot  (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif)   (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif)

I barely know how to speak my own language and English, let alone all those languages you mentioned. I took French for 5 years at school and all I learned was J'amapelle and Alloz

I just made a basic mistake: translating portuguese to english... without sense or rules.
In portuguese we only use 1 word for that: "paint"... not dye or something...

WELL, BACK TO THE TOPIC

I'm sure, today, Friday we'll get some more info about Sobis-Milan deal. I hope some official news. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)

This post has been edited by Portugal: Aug 18 2006, 01:36 AM

[KillerMax]

Rafael Sobis is passing through a great personal moment as he just managed to win the Copa Libertadores and is on the verge of moving to Milan.

The Rossoneri are expected to hold a final meeting with the directors of International and the official announcement of the transfer could be given even this weekend.

The President of the Brazilian club, Fernando Carvalho, also confirmed that Sobis is on his way out.

"We did not yet sell the player, but there are already contacts."

Goal.com

[Diavolo]

CALCIOMERCATO:
Milan: ecco Sobis, settimana prossima Oddo

10:00 del 18 agosto

Il Milan ha praticamente raggiunto l'accordo per l'acquisto di Rafael Sobis dall'Internacional di Porto Alegre sulla base di 10 milioni di euro. Restano da definire solo alcuni dettagli, la giovane seconda punta brasiliana arriverà in Italia nei prossimi giorni.

Settimana prossima anche Massimo Oddo vestirà la maglia rossonera. L'arrivo del laterale destro della Lazio è ormai sicuro, le due società si incontreranno per individuare la contropartita tecnica adeguata: si parla di Foggia o Bonera.

In uscita il portiere Coppola andrà a Livorno oppure a Parma, mentre il centrocampista svizzero Vogel verso l'Inghilterra (Manchester United o Blackburn).




(Gazzetta dello Sport)

In a few words - Sobis is practicaly ours for 10 mil. euros. There are just some minor details to be sorted. He will come to Italy in the next few days.

The next week also Oddo is coming to Milan. The two clubs have reached the agreement, there it's just to define who will be given to Lazio (they are talking about Foggia or Bonera - I HOPE NON OF THEM).

Coppola is ready to leave for Livorno or Parma, Vogel to England (Manu or Blackburn).

This post has been edited by Diavolo: Aug 18 2006, 10:21 AM

[Portman]

Today Corriere and Gazzetta talk about this deal:

Friday 18 August
Gazzetta dello Sport
Sobis, a little phenomenon for Milan

Corriere dello Sport
Milan after Sobis
Galliani blocks the Brazilian attacker of Internacional di Porto Alegre.

Go! (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/cool.gif) Galliani Go!

This post has been edited by Portugal: Aug 18 2006, 10:25 AM

[Portman]

Milan: ecco Sobis, settimana prossima Oddo

10:00 del 18 agosto Calciomercato.com

Il Milan ha praticamente raggiunto l'accordo per l'acquisto di Rafael Sobis dall'Internacional di Porto Alegre sulla base di 10 milioni di euro. Restano da definire solo alcuni dettagli, la giovane seconda punta brasiliana arriverà in Italia nei prossimi giorni.

Settimana prossima anche Massimo Oddo vestirà la maglia rossonera. L'arrivo del laterale destro della Lazio è ormai sicuro, le due società si incontreranno per individuare la contropartita tecnica adeguata: si parla di Foggia o Bonera.

In uscita il portiere Coppola andrà a Livorno oppure a Parma, mentre il centrocampista svizzero Vogel verso l'Inghilterra (Manchester United o Blackburn).

(Gazzetta dello Sport)

"It's almost done the deal Milan-Sobis, only a few details. It will cost 10M-euros"
"He'll arrive on the next days in Milano"
"Next week, it's all for Oddo. Maybe Foggia or Bonera in the deal"
"Coppola maybe on his way for Livorno or Parma, and Vogel to England"

PS: Diavolo was quicker than me... (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)

This post has been edited by Portugal: Aug 18 2006, 11:25 AM

[florenti1]

I hope MILAN are well inspired as they have been when they transfered Kaka

Did he play in the 2nd leg of copa libertadores final?

[Portman]

I hope MILAN are well inspired as they have been when they transfered Kaka

Did he play in the 2nd leg of copa libertadores final?

Yep. It was a good match for him. He played nice.

[Portman]

Milan close in on Sobis 
Friday 18 August, 2006

Milan are closing in on Internacional Porto Alegre striker Rafael Sobis, widespread reports in Italy are suggesting.

The Rossoneri have yet to replace Andriy Shevchenko and have targeted the 21-year-old who recently scored twice against Sao Paulo to net his club the Copa Libertadores.

Sobis, who has been selected by Brazil boss Carlos Dunga for ties against Argentina and Wales, is a former Under-20 international and is considered one of Brazil’s best talents.

Sobis prefers to play as a second striker but could be flanked by Kaka in a 4-3-2-1 formation which Rossoneri Coach Carlo Ancelotti seems keen on using this season.

Sobis was paired with an Inter transfer in November 2005, but the Nerazzurri could not reach an agreement with his Brazilian club.

The player’s agent also contacted Milan in January yet the outfit decided to wait rather than part with the £10.7m transfer fee requested.

Now, after losing the race to sign Hernan Crespo and Zlatan Ibrahimovic to city rivals Inter, the Rossoneri intend to make a bid for the South American who is currently valued at £7m.

Although Internacional President Fernando Carvalho has denied that anything has been agreed, the forward seems on his way out.

"We have not yet sold the player, but there has been contact,” he is quoted as saying on Friday morning.

Milan are also planning further summer transfers, but much will depend on the result of their Champions League third qualifying round match against Red Star Belgrade, which they currently lead 1-0.

If the Rossoneri qualify for the Champions League group stage then they will most probably move to sign Fernando Torres of Atletico Madrid or Udinese’s Vincenzo Iaquinta.

channel4.com

[GULLIVER]

Milan is always inspired.

FORZA MILAN

[LaPalma]

Good news so far. Took them some time to get into the action on the transfer market, but with Sobis and Oddo we'll get some player that will really help us.
I just hope we won't give/loan Bonera in the deal (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

[Rossoneri7]

I just hope we won't give/loan Bonera in the deal (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

Dont think Milan bought him to get rid of him ..

[Portman]

Atacante Sobis pode ser companheiro de Kaká no Milan
Publicado em 18.08.2006, às 10h20

Um dos heróis da conquista da América, Rafael Sobis dificilmente vestirá a camisa do Inter no Mundial Interclubes. Um emissário do Milan está em Porto Alegre tratando do assunto e o Valencia também tem interesse no atacante.

... http://jc.uol.com.br/2006/08/18/not_117745.php

Another new from Brazil.

They're saying that Milan will probably close the deal today, and Valencia is trying to him too.

His agent "In the beginning of the year, (January market) Milan almost got him for 12M but he got injuried on that time, and the transfer was cancelled"

The reporter asked if Milan will buy him now, but will only get him on January:
"No. That's not true. When you buy a Ferrari, you would like to drive it on the next day. And Sobis is a Ferrari."

Another player that they say Milan is looking for is Edu Dracena from Cruzeiro, a defender.

This post has been edited by Portugal: Aug 18 2006, 03:31 PM

[Portman]

Sobis-Milan, Cafu 'Grandissimo giocatore'

17:02 del 18 agosto - Calciomercato.com

Rafael Sobis pare essere il nuovo target del mercato rossonero, ecco il parere di Cafu: “Lo conosco bene, e` un grandissimo giocatore, voi lo conoscete solo ora che ha fatto la finale di Libertadores, ma e` un giocatore che ha fatto bene, tant’e` che e` stato convocato in nazionale. E’ un centrocampista, una seconda punta, non una prima punta”.

Cafu talking about Sobis:

"Great player", "He is a good player, otherwise he'll not be on the NT", "It's a second foward, not a first-foward... not a pure in-box striker"

[planck]

Another new from Brazil.

They're saying that Milan will probably close the deal today, and Valencia is trying to him too.

His agent "In the beginning of the year, (January market) Milan almost got him for 12M but he got injuried on that time, and the transfer was cancelled"

The reporter asked if Milan will buy him now, but will only get him on January:
"No. That's not true. When you buy a Ferrari, you would like to drive it on the next day. And Sobis is a Ferrari."

Another player that they say Milan is looking for is Edu Dracena from Cruzeiro, a defender.

Sobis is a Ferrari! (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

[Guido_Diavolo]

I told this in a previous post(http://www.milanfan.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=1400&hl=sobis), he plays for the club I suport over here in Brazil, and yes he is a great player, I´m sad because he won't be here when Inter face Barça in december (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) (yes, Inter won from São Paulo), but happy cuz' Inter need to sell him($$$$$$$$), so sell to Milan (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/devilsmiley.gif) my other passion.
Like Cafu said he is not a in-box striker(Milan have Inzaghi and Gila so...), but he has a powerfull shot and is very quick.

This post has been edited by Guido_Diavolo: Aug 18 2006, 05:50 PM

[Rossoneri7]

What Cafu had to say about Sobis .. From: acmilan.com

CAFU: ’We’ll play our game at the Marakana’
8/18/2006

MILANELLO - Marcos also covered the transfer market and the possible arrival of compatriot Rafael Sobis: ’I know him well and he’s a really great player, he’s known for what he has done in the Cup Liberadores now but he’s done well and been called up to the national side. He’s a midfielder and support striker, but not an out-and-out striker.’  As for the new Brazil coach, Marcos respects his choice; ’Dunga was a great player, a great captain and give everyone a lift, now he’s looking to bring that to the national side. We have plenty of time and have to respect his choices.’ Returning to Tuesday’s game: ’We have to play our own game at the Marakana. The atmosphere will be really hot and they will be looking for their fans to help them.’

[dst]

I told this in a previous post

Yeah I remember you!!!! and that post of yours ... thanks!!!! (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

[psgpanama]

I think it depends. At the moment we don't need a pure in-box striker. Those are who score "a lot", like Trezeguet, Nistelrooy... etc

We need someone to help Gilardino or Pippo. And obviously who can score too... but, not only that.

You shouldn't go by scoring records. If everybody was like that, they'll think that Pauleta is a very good striker, when he's pure b/s... the worst striker I have ever seen.

honestly, i do not agree at all with that... what is the function of the striker?? what is he getting paid to do?? To score goals.. he can be disruptive (like robinho) but if he doesnt score or at least set up assits for someone else score, what is the purpose of having him as a striker?? he can run and try to fight whatever he wants, but if he does not score, why is he there? and i would like to get an explanation why pauleta is not a good striker.. he's doing what he's getting paid to do.. to score goals!!! nothing else.. i would like to get an explanation from portugal on what he considers a good striker is, and why he thinks pauleta is the worst striker he has ever seen..

[Portman]

honestly, i do not agree at all with that... what is the function of the striker?? what is he getting paid to do?? To score goals.. he can be disruptive (like robinho) but if he doesnt score or at least set up assits for someone else score, what is the purpose of having him as a striker?? he can run and try to fight whatever he wants, but if he does not score, why is he there? and i would like to get an explanation why pauleta is not a good striker.. he's doing what he's getting paid to do.. to score goals!!! nothing else.. i would like to get an explanation from portugal on what he considers a good striker is, and why he thinks pauleta is the worst striker he has ever seen..

First of all. I'm portuguese, and I know Pauleta very well. He can "superrrrrrrrrrr" (what the french love to say) in PSG. But in the NT, in a World Cup, in a Euro, in a big competion he's a zero.

If you statistic... I'll give 1 example: Portugal got to the Euro 2004 final (and lost). So, Portugal did what? 6/7 matches? Did you know the Pauleta's scoring record on that tornament? 4 SHOTS! 4 SHOTS! 4 SHOTS from the ONLY striker on the first 11. And he played almost every match.

And in this World Cup. 1 goal vs. a BIG TEAM like Angola, and the others? Nuno Gomes is like 5 times better than him. He played 20min vs. Germany and scored. Pauleta played all the other matches and scored 1 without the keeper on the goal.

It's pathetic. If you're a PSG fan, I'll understand you. In France he's very well know, he's the king of the scorers. But believe, here in Portugal everybody hates him. He's pure crap.

And yes, the striker job is to score goals. But in Pauleta's case, the problem is that he only able to score or create chances vs. Luxembourg, Liechnstein, San Marino... those big teams. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

Hugo Almeida (Bremen), Nuno Gomes (Benfica), and maybe Postiga (FC Porto) are WAY better than the PSG's striker.

[YoungGun]

I have watched Pauleta for years and totaly agree with what Portugal said.

[aaron]

I have watched Pauleta for years and totaly agree with what Portugal said.

why is top goal scorer for portugal national team then???????
:devil: :devil: i don't understand this

[han2503]

People on other boards keep saying that Sobis has signed for Valencia, I checked their official site and so far there aren't any offiacial announcements about him joining them


if this is true then I really don't know what to say anymore.

[han2503]

Sobis, il Milan lo snobba e lui va al Racing

19:23 del 21 agosto

Rafael Sobis, che sarebbe dovuto finire al Milan prima che i rossoneri bloccassero tutto, ha annunciato che la prossima stagione giocherà in Spagna. Al Racing Santander. L'attaccante, secondo quanto riportato dalla stampa brasiliana, dice "So cosa devo fare. Ho mantenuto le promesse che ho fatto sulla coppa Libertadores. Ora è arrivato il momento di andare via". Il nome di Sobis è stato accostato anche a Valencia e Siviglia.

This is from calciomercato, does it say that Sobithat he will be going to Racing

[misha]

This is from calciomercato, does it say that Sobithat he will be going to Racing

From what I undarstand it says that he was on his way to Milan and then we stop the deal. Now he desided to play in Spain for Racing