[dst]

I made this topic cause the last days I've been watching all 05/06 Milan games I've downloaded (and milanfan's highlights (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) ) and i was stunned watching Seedorf's through-balls (he's had bad games recently but) when the guy's in his day his vision of the field is really great! his greatest one was in the tie against Lazio at the San Siro when his pass run through 5 laziali and across half the pitch to found Sheva all alone with the keeper...( he didn't net that one (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) )
it is stunning...I think he is the best and most complete midfielder in the world right now
..too bad Van Basten doesn't think so..

[mKei]

Did we tie against Lazio this season ? we won them didn´t we ?

[Nova]

I think he meant Match with tie (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

[mKei]

I think he meant Match with tie  (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

Ohh, kinda tired (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)

[amancik]

he's got skills and tricks ... no doubt about that ... but sometimes give the ball away too easily ... his shooting has its ups and downs ... when he's in good form ... he scores ... when he's not ... he flies it over the stadium ...

[dst]

so ... what do you think about Seedorf!!???

how do you rate his last season in Milan??? I'd give him a 6 (I have to admit I'm too strict with my points ... (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) )

[KillerMax]

Man, that's harsh! I give him a good 7. His movement with the ball and his passes, his awesome teamwork and beautiful goals should be enough evidence. He has started this season on friggin' fire and it's going to be interesting if he can keep his form through out the whole season. I think he was our most capped player last season after Dida.

[X-Offender]

I give him a 6,5. He definitely had a great season, but against small teams, like han has said, he doesn't give his 100%. But probably having the number 10 on his shoulders has given him more responsability which shows his great displays in the pre-seasons matches so far.

[I_Rossoneri]

so ... what do you think about Seedorf!!???

how do you rate his last season in Milan??? I'd give him a 6 (I have to admit I'm too strict with my points ...  (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) )

You're too lenient dst (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

Seedorf on his day is possibly one of the most complete midfielders around - unfortunately he doesn't have enough of these days. In fact he is liable to slow our attacks down and loses possession far too easily for my liking, and he doesn't score enough. I am being generous in giving him 5.5 (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

[misha]

He needs to be more consistnt - 6

[dst]

I give him a 6,5. He definitely had a great season, but against small teams, like han has said, he doesn't give his 100%. But probably having the number 10 on his shoulders has given him more responsability which shows his great displays in the pre-seasons matches so far.

I think the fact that Judas left, lmeans only him and Kaka are the Big Gunes here now (well some could say it's Inzaghi too...) and I hope he understands how much more important it is for us this season that he keeps his current form up till the end!!!

You're too lenient dst (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

Seedorf on his day is possibly one of the most complete midfielders around - unfortunately he doesn't have enough of these days. In fact he is liable to slow our attacks down and loses possession far too easily for my liking, and he doesn't score enough. I am being generous in giving him 5.5  (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

well I think I was bit lenient but I like the guy a lot. As I've said before when he's turned on he's the best #10 IMO !!!!

[Fillipo Simone]

..too bad Van Basten doesn't think so..

Van Basten was a great player. But he is also a very week and unexperienced coach who should not have been put infront of the Holland national team. Their whole campaign at the WC was poor and pale, and Seedorf is the one that really missed. No Sneider, no Kujit, no Van Bommel, even Van Persie couldn`t find that calmness on one side and that explosivity on the other that marks Clarence. The man is a genius after all...and now that he wears our number 10 I belive he will still improve himself and become a real leader.. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

[han2503]

Just a little vid I found of him

Seedorf

I agree with dst, Seedorf on his day is most probably the best #10 there is, his vision, passing a long distance shooting is amazing.

But as I said before he does tend to be complaicent when playing the small teams, I think that everyone agrees that he is a big game player, especially when we play against Juve or Inter, it's like something is turned on inside him and he is unstoppable when that happens.

But I think that the #10 shirt was a good thing to be given to him, he himself said that he feels the responsabilty the shirt carries with it and said that he intends to honour it.

I hope that he keeps up this form for the whole season because we really need him, and I'm really praying that Oliveira willwork out for us.

[dst]

Van Basten was a great player. But he is also a very week and unexperienced coach who should not have been put infront of the Holland national team. Their whole campaign at the WC was poor and pale, and Seedorf is the one that really missed. No Sneider, no Kujit, no Van Bommel, even Van Persie couldn`t find that calmness on one side and that explosivity on the other that marks Clarence. The man is a genius after all...and now that he wears our number 10 I belive he will still improve himself and become a real leader.. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

well any coach that plays Van (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/puke.gif) (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/puke.gif) Bommel is not good in my books!!!!

I think Van Persie must play.He's one of my faves right now and basically the only 'new' Dutch that I like. And all that is probably because he's Bergkamp's little 'trainee'!!! (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

Robben should not play ... I hate that arrogant b1tch, far from 'total' !!!! (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/mad.gif)

[dst]

I agree with dst, Seedorf on his day is most probably the best #10 there is, his vision, passing a long distance shooting is amazing.

But as I said before he does tend to be complaicent when playing the small teams, I think that everyone agrees that he is a big game player, especially when we play against Juve or Inter, it's like something is turned on inside him and he is unstoppable when that happens.

I think not even we, those of us who watch Milan's games that is, have seen what he can truly do ... you can feel it when he has those flares; if he was 'trophyless' he'd be a Blazing Dutchman ... (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/cool.gif) (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/king.gif)

he definetely likes to play against Giuve!!!! (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

thanks for the vid!!

[Fillipo Simone]

well any coach that plays Van (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/puke.gif)   (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/puke.gif) Bommel is not good in my books!!!!

I think Van Persie must play.He's one of my faves right now and basically the only 'new' Dutch that I like. And all that is probably because he's Bergkamp's little 'trainee'!!! (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

Van der Vaart is fair, but I expected much more out of him...and Maduro, well he is a certain talent. Van Persie is good but his reputation is very...ehem...un - Bergkamp - like to say at least!

[han2503]

well any coach that plays Van (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/puke.gif)   (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/puke.gif) Bommel is not good in my books!!!!

I think Van Persie must play.He's one of my faves right now and basically the only 'new' Dutch that I like. And all that is probably because he's Bergkamp's little 'trainee'!!! (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

Robben should not play ... I hate that arrogant b1tch, far from 'total' !!!! (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/mad.gif)

Robben is just disgusting, the only dutch players that I would like are Sneijder and as you mentioned Van Persie, bot incredible talents, oh and I wouldn't complain if we got Huntelaar he is a goal scoring machine

I think not even we, those of us who watch Milan's games that is, have seen what he can truly do ... you can feel it when he has those flares; if he was 'trophyless' he'd be a Blazing Dutchman ...  (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)   (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/king.gif)

he definetely likes to play against Giuve!!!! (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

thanks for the vid!!

I'm getting a feeling that we will see a lot of his little flares this season. You can see that there is definately something different in him, for him to put that much effort in a FRIENDLY against LECCO should be some kind of sign. Maybe it's that #10 shirt or maybe anger because of the calciopoli thing but there is definately something defferent about him

[dst]

Van der Vaart is fair, but I expected much more out of him...and Maduro, well he is a certain talent. Van Persie is good but his reputation is very...ehem...un - Bergkamp - like to say at least!

those you're mentioned are good players ... I'm just saying I don't like any of them that much. And Van Persie yeah I know he looks a bit haughty but only over himself IMO not against his teammates or opponents!!!

Bergkamp ... well ... apart from one of the biggest players I've ever watched play and one of my faves he was probably the kindest (-looking only maybe you never know ...) footballer I've ever seen!!!

I'm getting a feeling that we will see a lot of his little flares this season. You can see that there is definately something different in him, for him to put that much effort in a FRIENDLY against LECCO should be some kind of sign. Maybe it's that #10 shirt or maybe anger because of the calciopoli thing but there is definately something defferent about him

Let's just hope cause as m1ke correctly mentioned before he started on fire last season as well!!! (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

[han2503]

Let's just hope cause as m1ke correctly mentioned before he started on fire last season as well!!! (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

Really? I don't remember.

I just think that this will be his season to shine.

[amancik]

now he's wearing the number 10 shirt ... man, I miss Rui Costa badly ...

[KillerMax]

now he's wearing the number 10 shirt ... man, I miss Rui Costa badly ...

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[misha]

Seedorf eyes Holland return

AC Milan midfielder Clarence Seedorf is hoping to make a return to the Holland side despite not featuring under Marco Van Basten.
The 30-year-old has not worn the orange jersey for over two years after Van Basten took over as coach of the Dutch national side in 2004. The former AC Milan star has been looking at different options throughout the team and continued to overlook Seedorf for the recent Euro 2008 qualifiers.

Seedorf though has not given up hope of adding to his 77 caps and is still hopeful of winning a trophy with his country.
"He finds other players better than me, just like he told everyone else," Seedorf told Voetbal Insite.

"I find it a pity that we could not work with each other. I still see it as a big challenge.

Van Basten could look at it that way too.

"It still needs an ending. I still have the dream of picking up the prizes with the national team."

link

[LaPalma]

now he's wearing the number 10 shirt ... man, I miss Rui Costa badly ...

Yeah...so do I (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/cry.gif) (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)

"It still needs an ending. I still have the dream of picking up the prizes with the national team."

Haha...wrong national team...

[misha]

Haha...wrong national team...

(IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

[Fillipo Simone]

Gah,...there was a time I admired the Holland national team, with Advocaat, Hiddink and Rijkaard. And van Gaal did disapointed me, but not as half as much as MvB did. I suppose the days of the "living" total football and Ajax are over. No more Oranje power and players like Bergkamp (man I`ve loved that b@stard though he was an Interisti), Davids, the de Boer bro`s, etc.

Maybe that`s why I like Clarence so much. He is the last of his kind... (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wub.gif)

[dst]

Bergkamp is a rossonero at heart !! (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wub.gif)

... and your avatar pic is more pixelated than a NextGen image !!

[Fillipo Simone]

... and your avatar pic is more pixelated than a NextGen image !!

Yep, I know it...but I can`t find a suitable and acceptable...

[misha]

AC Milam midfielder Seedorf added to Dutch squad

AMSTERDAM, Nov 12 (Reuters) - AC Milan midfielder Clarence Seedorf has been added to the Netherlands squad for a friendly against England on Wednesday in Amsterdam after two years out of the national side.

Seedorf replaces Ajax Amsterdam's Wesley Sneijder who sustained a knee injury on Sunday in the 1-0 loss to PSV Eindhoven. The Dutch soccer federation said he would undergo a medical investigation on Monday.

The 30-year-old Seedorf, who has won 77 caps, played his last match for the Dutch in Euro 2004.

The midfielder, who won three Champions League finals with three different clubs, said in several interviews last week that he still wanted to play for the Netherlands although coach Marco Van Basten has consistently refused to select him.

"In the last two years I spoke three times with Clarence and explained to him why we didn't invite him," Van Basten told reporters on Friday.

"Clarence had his chance under five national coaches and never convinced. We chose a new direction two years ago and found no reason to pick him."

link

[Portman]

Seedorf replaces Ajax Amsterdam's Wesley Sneijder...

I wouldn't mind that replacement in Milan, but the other way...

[jbryant1]

I wouldn't mind that replacement in Milan, but the other way...

The problem with Seedorf is that he has Gila and Inzaghi to work with. They stand in front of the goal and wait.

Seedorf has more goals then our strikers put together.

The real problem is not a replacement but a substitute. We have no alternative. We start our 11 and our bench is 2nd rate. Who do we put in there? We have no one.

[Fillipo Simone]

The problem with Seedorf is that he has Gila and Inzaghi to work with. They stand in front of the goal and wait.

Seedorf has more goals then our strikers put together.

The real problem is not a replacement but a substitute. We have no alternative. We start our 11 and our bench is 2nd rate. Who do we put in there? We have no one.

Yes, we don`t need someone who would be a permanent replacement for Seedorf, just a stronger choice and a better alternative for Clarence.

Wesly Sneijder is way overrated here I suppose, he is not even near to Seedorf in any way... (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)

[LaPalma]

Yes, we don`t need someone who would be a permanent replacement for Seedorf, just a stronger choice and a better alternative for Clarence.

Wesly Sneijder is way overrated here I suppose, he is not even near to Seedorf in any way... (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)

Sneijder still has much to prove. Seedorf is an experienced players who already showed what he's capable of. Sneijder did also impress me though, but he has to improve his game. Of course I wouldn't mind him playing for Milan...

[han2503]

Watched Seedorf last night, and Ive got to say he played a very good game, especially considering that he has been out of the NT for over 2 years now

[mallamkay]

Watched Seedorf last night, and Ive got to say he played a very good game, especially considering that he has been out of the NT for over 2 years now

that is his head a che, i think we are losing all this matches becos of him, take Roma for example.

[X-Offender]

that is his head a che, i think we are losing all this matches becos of him, take Roma for example.

Oh come on. Saying he's playing bad lately is one thing, but saying we're losing all the matches because of him is a bit exaggerated. I watched him in the second half of Holland-England and I was quite impressed really, he should play like that in every Milan match.

[KillerMax]

that is his head a che, i think we are losing all this matches becos of him, take Roma for example.

The Roma game? I thought he was actually one of our good players out there that day...

[han2503]

that is his head a che, i think we are losing all this matches becos of him, take Roma for example.

What??!! Seedorf was our best player in the Roma match!!! Blaming our losses on him is immature, he might get lazy sometimes but it's not just him, Pirlo is playing bad also, our defence is in shambles and our strikers not scoring, all those combined and that is enough to tell you that seedorf's performances are the least of Milan's problems, he is our joint top scorer in the league with Marek and Kaka, I don't see the why some are still laying the blame on Seedorf!!!

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The Roma game? I thought he was actually one of our good players out there that day...

[arivanjj]

Seedorf Shines In Zico Charity Match

Rio de Janeiro was both thrilled and stunned to see a Dutchman stealing the scene from native marvels, but Clarence Seedorf was the name of the game in yesterday’s charity match organised by Zico. The AC Milan man commanded his side to an 8-5 win where the real winners were the needy in Rio who’ll receive over seven tonnes of foodstuffs.

The match took place at the CFZ facilities in Rio de Janeiro, but Seedorf is a ‘Brazilophile’ and frequently spends part of his holidays in Brazil as well as speaking good Portuguese. When he found out about the game he bought a pair of football boots at a local mall and asked if he could join in. Zico and Júnior welcomed him onto their team.

The Red Team that Zico, Júnior and Seedorf were in used the following line-up: Zé Carlos; Leo Moura, Junior Baiano, Gonçalves and Leonardo; Junior, Emerson, Seedorf and Zico; Thiago Coimbra and Amoroso. Their subs were: Bebeto, Zinho, Fabinho, Élder Granja, Lenny, Roger and Jaime.

On the other side the White Team were formed by Acácio; Gabriel, Mauro Galvão, Fabiano Eller and Julio César; Ailton, Adílio, Djalminha; Roberto Dinamite, Vágner Love and Claudio Adão. Their subs were: Wellerson, Alex Dias, Macelinho Carioca, Alexandre Torres, Delacir, Andrade, Hugo and Vitor.

The Reds were blessed with braces; Amoroso, Zinho and Seedorf all getting second helpings of goal with Leonardo Moura and Bebeto rounding off the eight goals. After the game the Dutchman gave his boots to a disabled fan and spoke of his happiness.

“It’s an incredible honour to play alongside idols like Zico, Júnior and the others and at the same time. I’m just glad that I heard about the game and was able to come here and support such a worthy cause”, explained the Milan midfielder. Deco and Ronaldo were both unable to make the event for undisclosed reasons.

On the White Team the highlight was CSKA Moscow and seleção marksman Vágner Love (ex-Palmeiras) who bagged the only hat-trick of the match whereas veterans Alex Dias and Marcelinho Carioca scored a goal apiece.

Zico promised that with this year’s success the 2007 event will be even bigger. “It’s been really moving to see all the support and to know that we tripled the amount of food that we collected. I hope that next year we can use a bigger venue and expand the proceeds even more”, explained the Fenerbahçe Coach and Flamengo idol.


goal.com

[arivanjj]

hehe.. wat's with seedorf and his off-season performances..?

[dst]

hehe.. wat's with seedorf and his off-season performances..?

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[Rossoneri7]

hehe.. wat's with seedorf and his off-season performances..?

LOOOL ... He does try u know (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

[KillerMax]

hehe.. wat's with seedorf and his off-season performances..?

So true...

[han2503]

btw a pic of Seedorf playing in Rio

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[dst]

I think it all went wrong when he cut off his hair... (IMG:http://coolsmileys.net/gestures/hmm1.gif)

[han2503]

I think it all went wrong when he cut off his hair... (IMG:http://coolsmileys.net/gestures/hmm1.gif)

That's what I keep thinking (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif) (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif) It's like you where in my head (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif)

Anyway, A little something from channel 4

Clarence Seedorf (Milan)
No Kaka? Have no fear, Seedorf is here. He already impressed in the hole against Arezzo on Thursday and he again proved to be an assist king against Reggina on Sunday. He touched an infinite number of balls throughout with quality and assurance. Kaka can heal with patience.

[dst]

It's like you where in my head  (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif)

I am.

[han2503]

I am.

You are?? (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wacko.gif)

Now pls get out (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/realmad.gif) (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/realmad.gif)



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[han2503]

Seedorf (Milan): When the Dutch player is in form, he’s unstoppable. Scored a goal and created another to help Milan win their third consecutive match.

Goal.com

It seems like turtle has made quite an impression playing in the trequartista role (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

[KillerMax]

Let me rephrase what Goal.com said:

When Seedorf is in form, he is the most complete midfielder in the world. However, when he is not in form, he is only as good as a fat piece of crap on the pitch...

[agenth]

Let me rephrase what Goal.com said:

When Seedorf is in form, he is the most complete midfielder in the world. However, when he is not in form, he is only as good as a fat piece of crap on the pitch...

wonderful....
I think he will be off-form again against lazio (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
but that's just my bad karma, sorry (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

[han2503]

Let me rephrase what Goal.com said:

When Seedorf is in form, he is the most complete midfielder in the world. However, when he is not in form, he is only as good as a fat piece of crap on the pitch...

(IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

Seedorf is a great player, but on most of the times it's him that seems too lazy to get off his @ss rather then anything that has to do with form

[dst]

(IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)   (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

Seedorf is a great player, but on most of the times it's him that seems too lazy to get off his @ss rather then anything that has to do with form

Now YOU are into my mind!! (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif)

[han2503]

Now YOU are into my mind!!  (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif)

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This post has been edited by han2503: Jan 15 2007, 09:34 PM

[Tennie]

Baby Turtle Alert (from the club website):

E' NATO DENZEL SEEDORF
25/05/2007
MILANO - Quest'oggi, alla clinica "La Madonnina" di Milano è nato Denzel Seedorf. Il neonato pesa 3,270 grammi e la sua lunghezza è di 49 centimetri. Denzel è un bel bambino, sta bene, e alla signora Luviana e naturalmente a Clarence Seedorf vanno le congratulazioni più vive e sincere di tutta la famiglia rossonera.

[This morning in Milan Denzel Seedorf was born, weighing in at 3.2 kilos and 49 centimeters in length. Denzel is a handsome baby and is healthy. To his mother Luviana and naturally to Clarence Seedorf go the congratulations of all the rossoneri family.]

Might explain why he wasn't at his very best on Wednesday. With his wife ready to give birth....

[dst]

3.2 kilos? It's probably the baby on that @ss... (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

Congratulations Clarence Seedorf!!! (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

[milanista1899]

Nice 1 Clarence - Double congrats! (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/king.gif) I didn't even know he had a girlfriend let alone got someone pregnant (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif) Are they married too? (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) I saw the official communication on the site & it said "la Signora Luviana" dunno if that just means she's a woman as opposed to a girl (Signorina) or the wife of someone (Mrs.) Has he got someone else's wife up the duff? (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) Does he need to be neutered like a dog instead of a turtle? (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

[Tennie]

Hee. I'm pretty sure they're married. He dedicated a goal in one of the recent CL games to 'his wife, who is pregnant'.

[milanista1899]

Hee. I'm pretty sure they're married. He dedicated a goal in one of the recent CL games to 'his wife, who is pregnant'.

Oh ok, thanks I missed that (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) Sorry Clarence! (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

[Rossoneri7]

Seedorf was very vital for us in the CL. He was the one who controlled the possession in midfield. Sure he could be slow, but he could out dribble anyone, and yes even against the fastest dribblers around, i.e. CR (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) ... But as dst said on another post, he lights up like this on the BIG stage, against Cagliari or Reggina, he is a big disappointment. But that is just his class. He is a 4 time CL winner, you can bring him on at anytime and u'll be sure to know that he can make a difference on his own.

Without Seedorf, Milan would have never made it to the CL final !! Had it been Sjnider (spell), I doubt we would have passed Celtic (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

He, as all the others, is a vital focal point in our team along with a twist of experience. But he has something extra, he is a rock in our midfield that the team can hide the ball under for time to free up Kaka or start a potential attack. With experience, he has also become very good at coming back to lend a hand.

[milanista1899]

Seedorf was very vital for us in the CL. He was the one who controlled the possession in midfield. Sure he could be slow, but he could out dribble anyone, and yes even against the fastest dribblers around, i.e. CR... But as dst said on another post, he lights up like this on the BIG stage, against Cagliari or Reggina, he is a big disappointment. But that is just his class. He is a 4 time CL winner, you can bring him on at anytime and u'll be sure to know that he can make a difference on his own.

Without Seedorf, Milan would have never made it to the CL final !! Had it been Sjnider (spell), I doubt we would have passed Celtic

He, as all the others, is a vital focal point in our team along with a twist of experience. But he has something extra, he is a rock in our midfield that the team can hide the ball under for time to free up Kaka or start a potential attack. With experience, he has also become very good at coming back to lend a hand.

Yea definately, and in the league even if as you say (and a lot of others have said which I agree with) he hasn't always been/isn't always consistent. From what I remember against Parma (can you count them as a big club anymore? (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) )away (2nd game of the season) he had a great game, not just the awesome goal from a free-kick right in the top-right hand corner! Didn't he also play well/score against Torino? (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) I could be wrong! I'm not sure it's his motivation against the smaller teams that's the problem, but he's a player who shows his worth when Milan need it the most! If they really need him against a smaller team I think he can show up then too! (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) Whether he's consistent or not, also in the league he's a regular starter - so Carlo must have a reason for playing him so much. One of those reasons is he's an amazing player who can come up with a moment of brilliance even if he's not on his game. He's a complete player who came up from the legendary Ajax youth team to play total football - he has so many strings to his bow, so to speak.

I think it's Sneijder (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

Indeed! Apart from Paolo (& now that Billy's retired) I think Seedorf's the most experienced member of our team! (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

Sorry if I've said a lot of the same things as you R7, but it just goes to show we're of a like mind here (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/cool.gif) It makes a change for me to be of a like mind with someone, as most of the time I think differently to most people here (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) Not that any of us are wrong necessarily (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

[Fillipo Simone]

Congratulations to Clarenece...

He really deserves to be praised cause he played a real good season in all.. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)

[kurtsimonw]

Yay! Congrats Clarence! (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

[Rossoneri7]

Indeed! Apart from Paolo (& now that Billy's retired) I think Seedorf's the most experienced member of our team!  (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

That's exactly what I was getting at (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/king.gif)

Sorry if I've said a lot of the same things as you R7, but it just goes to show we're of a like mind here  (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/cool.gif) It makes a change for me to be of a like mind with someone, as most of the time I think differently to most people here (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) Not that any of us are wrong necessarily (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

So ur a genius too (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

From what I remember against Parma (can you count them as a big club anymore?  (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) )

Well, I think more of a good Italian footballing school (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/king.gif)

This post has been edited by Rossoneri7: May 26 2007, 06:38 PM

[han2503]

Btw, a bit late but Congratulations to Clarence on his new baby boy (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/king.gif) (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

[Jack Sparrow]

So ur a genius too (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

Me! Me! I want to be a genius too mommyyyyy!!!

Clarence is brilliant. Turtle power!!!

[Rossoneri7]

Me! Me! I want to be a genius too mommyyyyy!!!

Clarence is brilliant. Turtle power!!!

(IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) Turtle power ?! (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) .. Ur not making fun of our turtle now, r u (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

[misha]

AC Milan midfielder takes scouting trip of America

MONTCLAIR, New Jersey (AP) -Less than a month after winning the European Champions League title with AC Milan, Clarence Seedorf is back at work.

But instead of prowling the midfield for his Serie A club, the 31-year-old Dutchman is gathering information about soccer's world game.

Having already toured the Middle East and Djibouti in the horn of Africa, Seedorf is getting a firsthand account of Major League Soccer in the United States, educating himself about the landscape for his sports and entertainment management company: ON International.

"I'm here to meet the people, talk a little about the reality of football in the States, and the club, myself. Get to know a little more about the situation,'' Seedorf said Thursday while watching a New York Red Bulls training session at their Montclair State University training center. "Watching games from Europe is one thing, but being here and really understanding is another way of understanding.''

Seedorf set up ON International within the past year under the directorship of Geoffrey Schuhkraft, an Australian with a lifetime of experience managing entertainers and athletes such as swimmer Grant Hackett and cricketer Matthew Hayden. So far it has only one client: Seedorf.

Unlike David Beckham, Cuauhtemoc Blanco or Juan Pablo Angel, Seedorf doesn't see himself playing in MLS. He's committed to AC Milan for four more years, by which time he'll be 35.

But getting involved in the United States in some other capacity is a possibility.

"When I see the World Cup I see there is a lot of potential out there,'' Seedorf said. "I think it's only a matter of time before the U.S. can compete at the highest level. But something for sure needs to change.

"It's been about 10 years that we've heard this and it must improve. I think they want it,'' he said. "But I'm not here to judge. I'm here to listen and get a better picture.''

Seedorf already has set up a charitable foundation, Champions for Children, and is promoting that on his travels as well.

With former Ajax teammate Dave van den Bergh now making his living with the Red Bulls, Seedorf was able to find a welcome host club in New York.

His whirlwind trip to the U.S. will include meetings with MLS officials, then out to Los Angeles, back to Milan, the Netherlands, the Czech Republic and finally to his native Suriname, the former Dutch colony in South America.

"A lot of people talk about starting a foundation, but never do it,'' Schuhkraft said. "(Seedorf) genuinely wants to make a change. The fact that he wants to come here and understand American football, and check the support it has is admirable.''

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2007/socc...0507/index.html

[Tennie]

Go Turtle Power!

Seedorf has been called up by Van Basten for a Netherlands - Switzerland friendly next week.

[Portman]

Go Turtle Power!

Seedorf has been called up by Van Basten for a Netherlands - Switzerland friendly next week.

Yup. Old guns are back: Turle and Horse. Seedorf and Nistelrooy.

[Tennie]

Turtle Power!

Seedorf interview with UEFA.com link

Seedorf's English is...very fluent and very eloquent.

[arivanjj]

nice interview!

well deserved Seedorf...(IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/king.gif)

[Rossoneri7]

Great ... Thanx Tennie.

[misha]

Milan star Clarence Seedorf is unhappy that he is being forced to change position due to the arrival of Alexandre Pato.

Seedorf’s favourite position is in the trequartista role, however now that Pato is eligible to play, the Dutch master has had to go into a deeper midfield role.

This didn’t seem to have much of an impact on Seedorf yesterday as the 31-year-old was probably the man-of-the-match in the 5-2 thrashing on Napoli at San Siro.

"I knew that things would go well," Seedorf, who along with Pato and Ronaldo (2), scored in the game, told La Gazzetta dello Sport.

"However I cannot deny that going back to being a midfielder for me is a sacrifice."

Carlo Ancelotti was full of praise for Seedorf after the game, and he admitted himself that the ex-Ajax star was indeed making a sacrifice for the team.

“I would always like to see Seedorf play with this spirit and he was probably Man of the Match for me," Carletto stated.

“Seedorf feels he is a Trequartista and played a crucial role in winning the Champions League last year. He is not the only one who must make a sacrifice for the team, but everyone has to work together for the squad.”

[Tennie]

Funny that he says that (but his preference for playing in the trequartista role is well known and he always complains when he isn't in that position). Yesterday's was probably the best game he's played for us this season. He was very very good.

[misha]

Funny that he says that (but his preference for playing in the trequartista role is well known and he always complains when he isn't in that position). Yesterday's was probably the best game he's played for us this season. He was very very good.

Yes, though last season he started to play well after moving to the trequartista role in the second part of the season.

Seedorf can play good in any midfield position, but the problem with him is his motivation...

[dst]

It's also a sacrifice for my eyes to watch you stay still in 95% of a season' games, Clarence...

[misha]

Seedorf, The Dutch Master Of Europe

The only player to have won the UEFA Champions League with three different clubs and the first European footballer to have claimed the former Intercontinental Cup with two different sides, Clarence Seedorf, is now on the verge of breaking yet another international record.
   
Should the 31-year-old take the field for Milan against Arsenal on Wednesday in their Champions League second-round first-leg, he will become the Dutch player with most appearances in UEFA club competitions, making it an astonishing 130. 

The former Ajax, Sampdoria, Real Madrid and Internazionale midfielder is currently sharing top-spot in the respective list with Frankie de Boer, a now retired former Ajax team-mate. 

De Boer, who also played alongside Seedorf for the Dutch national side for a decade, featured 71 times for the Amsterdam giants, 50 for Barcelona and eight more for Galatasaray.

Seedorf now has the chance of making it 71 European outings for the reigning Champions League holders, having also played 16 times for Ajax, 26 for Real Madrid and 17 for Inter. 

Only himself to beat

According to the Dutch top-ten list published by Algemeen Dagblad, Seedorf’s imminent record cannot be threatened in the foreseeable future.

Phillip Cocu (121), Michael Reiziger (96), Marc Overmars (95) and Dennis Bergkamp (94) have all withdrawn from the game, while Edgar Davids (97), Ed van der Sar (96), Patrick Kluivert (94) and Gio van Bronckhorst (90), who are still active, are all far behind. 

Seedorf will celebrate his 32nd birthday on April Fools’ Day and perhaps in the years to come he will have the chance to pursue top-spot in the all-time UEFA competitions’ list.

His Rossoneri team-mate Paolo Maldini, currently on 164 appearances, may still be going strong, but he’s already 39, while Luís Figo (137) of arch-rivals Internazionale is 35 and Oliver Kahn (136) of Bayern is 38 and will hang up his gloves at the end of the season.

Seedorf, a Suriname native, has won 19 major trophies in club football throughout his career and was named the best midfielder of the UEFA Champions League last season

[Jack Sparrow]

Turtle power. He's one of those likable people on the team...the closest thing we have to a problem child!!

And he's magical. On his day, he's better than anyone I've ever seen, except maybe Zidane.

[Bluesummers]

http://youtube.com/watch?v=zXpPD3FpxIg hahha seedorf.

[Tennie]

MILANO - Tanti auguri a Clarence Seedorf: il campione olandese, nato l'1 aprile 1976, festeggia oggi gli anni. Importante ricorrenza per il nostro numero 10, al quale dedichiamo tutti insieme un 'buon compleanno' affettuoso e sincero.

Happy Birthday! (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/96.gif)

[Jack Sparrow]

Happy birthday turtle...

[arivanjj]

Happy Birthday (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/king.gif)

[dst]

(rotten tape voice:) Haaapppyy Birthddaaaaayyyyy...

[Bluesummers]

32?

[misha]

32?

Yep.

Happy Birthday! (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

[Bluesummers]

happy birthday to the turtle master (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)

[Tennie]

32?

How many is that in turtle years? (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/innocent.gif)

[Fillipo Simone]

Happy B-day!!! (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/devilsmiley.gif)

[redbabies]

He was born on April Fools day?!?!? (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

Happy 32nd Birthday!

[Ry4n]

Happy Birthday !!

[acid911]

How many is that in turtle years?

Ah, around 216 years, considering they live up to be five hundred. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif)

Happy birthday, Seedorf. Turtle power! Now, get us the fourth place, you lazy Dutch. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

[Bluesummers]

Ah, around 216 years, considering they live up to be five hundred. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif)

Happy birthday, Seedorf. Turtle power! Now, get us the fourth place, you lazy Dutch. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

thats the biggest understatement of the year! (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

This post has been edited by Bluesummers: Apr 2 2008, 04:14 AM

[acid911]

thats the biggest understatement of the year!

Lol. True, true, Blue. Very true. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/huh.gif) (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

[Rossoneri7]

Seedorf: I want to end my career in Milan!


With speculation building up on Valencia's interest in Milan's midfield magician Clarence Seedorf, whom has squashed all rumors by committing himself to the club till retirement.

Seedorf said: "Valencia ?! My contract with Milan ends in 2011, and I want to end my professional career with Milan."

Seedorf also added on Totti's recent incident with the ref, which has shaken Italian football, to some extent: "A good referee is one who can react intelligently and swiftly, without feeling the pressure of the moment. Most of the referees on the pitch feel under threat, which causes them to not comprehend what the players say to them when explaining a certain incident, for example Nesta wanted to discuss the mistake with the referee he got a suspended for two matches. While in other games, such an approach to the referee would not be punished at all."

The Dutch man continued to criticize the referee: "Against the Bianconeri, the linesman asked the referee to book a certain player on more than one occasion for several tough tackles against me, but the referee did even warn him of his offense. Why?! As the linesman is there to help the referee in situations where the referee might not be 100% sure on a decision also they are supposed to be partners and trust in each other's judgments. If that is not the case, then what good are the linesman?! Just to prove an offside exists" Snapped the Dutchman.

ControCampo

[kurtsimonw]

IS HE BACK!? (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif)

[Rossoneri7]

Galliani: Seedorf will keep his number


The first ever, negativity, to come out of the Milan dressing room is Clarence's disapproval at giving up his number 10 shirt to Ronaldinho.


Galliani, at his usual best, tries to calm to tensions: "Clarence has the right to keep his shirt, the number 10 shirt will remain on his shoulders. If a player comes and asks for the number 10, then too bad, he will just need to look for another number that is available to him. Whether Ronaldinho comes or not, Milan has it's own stars."

ContoCampo

This post has been edited by Rossoneri7: Apr 15 2008, 09:27 PM

[Rossoneri7]

IS HE BACK!? (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif)

(IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) @ your sig (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

[Tennie]

(IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/96.gif) (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/96.gif) (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/96.gif) (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/96.gif) (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/96.gif)

Welcome back, R7!

The fish doll misses borrowing your supply of harem girls!

[kurtsimonw]

Welcome back, R7.

[mishie]

Clarence is a legend and deserves to keep the no.10 shirt! and i hope he does finish his career with us (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)