[han2503]

Who: A.C. Milan vs. Hellas Verona



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Where: Stadio San Siro



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When:
7th March 2015 @ 8:45pm CET


Head-to-Head Record



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[han2503]

Look at it this way: rumor is that if we do not win, Pippo is out and Tassotti takes over. Of course I hope we win, but if that does not happen it may not be all that bad. Tassotti is not my first choice by far, but at this point I think we need a change.

I really do not believe any of those rumours at this point. How many times have we heard the same thing now, we simply have to accept the fact that Pippo will most likely be here until the summer

[X-Offender]

Diego Lopez; Bonera, Paletta, Bocchetti, Antonelli; Poli, Essien, Bonaventura; Cerci, Destro, Menez

Again Pippo trying to do his worst by not playing Mexes and MvG. And I don't care whether Abate has just recovered. If he's fit he's a better alternative to frigging Bonera.

[han2503]

Diego Lopez; Bonera, Paletta, Bocchetti, Antonelli; Poli, Essien, Bonaventura; Cerci, Destro, Menez

Again Pippo trying to do his worst by not playing Mexes and MvG. And I don't care whether Abate has just recovered. If he's fit he's a better alternative to frigging Bonera.

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[X-Offender]

Yep. Possibly the worst defensive line I might have witnessed as a Milan fan in a competitive Serie A match.

This post has been edited by X-Offender: Mar 7 2015, 11:41 AM

[Danny]

Latest is a 50/50 between Muntari and MVG - no Essien.

[Fillipo Simone]

Diego Lopez; Bonera, Paletta, Bocchetti, Antonelli; Poli, Essien, Bonaventura; Cerci, Destro, Menez

Again Pippo trying to do his worst by not playing Mexes and MvG. And I don't care whether Abate has just recovered. If he's fit he's a better alternative to frigging Bonera.

I think Mexes is crossed off the list.

[X-Offender]

Yes, typical Milan of nowadays.

[Fillipo Simone]

Yes, typical Milan of nowadays.

No, I really think he's a bad influence. Nothing to do with Milan.

[X-Offender]

I think that's nonsense, but to each his own.

[Fillipo Simone]

I think that's nonsense, but to each his own.

I don't think so. Many coaches had problems with him and tried to circumvent him. In the end, Han and you right to say he's the best defender we have and that's why many managers go back to him, but I really don't think we can rely on him any more. IMO he disgraced Milan just like Muntari did, and I don't wanna see both of them playing for us again.

[han2503]

I don't think so. Many coaches had problems with him and tried to circumvent him. In the end, Han and you right to say he's the best defender we have and that's why many managers go back to him, but I really don't think we can rely on him any more. IMO he disgraced Milan just like Muntari did, and I don't wanna see both of them playing for us again.

I think you're blowing it out of proportion with both (and that's saying something considering my opinion on Muntari)

[X-Offender]

Yeah. Balotelli was problematic. Menez is problematic. Players who don't act like professionals but think they're the everything. Mexes might be a hot-head, but so was Ibra, Gattuso etc. He always gives his own and doesn't act like a prima donna. I don't mind that, and I certainly don't find him a bad influence.

[han2503]

Line-ups?

[X-Offender]

Diego Lopez; Bonera, Paletta, Mexes, Antonelli; Poli, Muntari, Bonaventura; Cerci, Menez, Pazzini

Muntari and Pazzini? Really, Pippo? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

[han2503]

Diego Lopez; Bonera, Paletta, Mexes, Antonelli; Poli, Muntari, Bonaventura; Cerci, Menez, Pazzini

Muntari and Pazzini? Really, Pippo? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

At least he relented on Mexes.

But Muntari instead of MvG?? FFS!

[han2503]

Brilliant one Muntari (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

[X-Offender]

That's what you get for playing Muntari, Pippo. You deserve it.

[kurtsimonw]

At least he relented on Mexes.

The entire twitterverse was laughing at Mexes' selection. Why do you rate him? Slow, poor, hot-head, dirty. Basically the defender Muntari.

[han2503]

The entire twitterverse was laughing at Mexes' selection. Why do you rate him? Slow, poor, hot-head, dirty. Basically the defender Muntari.

If you say so

I personally still rate him as a defender

[han2503]

Oh, and really? Twitter?

They're solely basing their views on Mexes because of the thousand memes that were created from the Lazio game. Not because they watch him regularly.

And the defender Muntari? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) No where near close!

[kurtsimonw]

Oh, and really? Twitter?

They're solely basing their views on Mexes because of the thousand memes that were created from the Lazio game. Not because they watch him regularly.

And the defender Muntari? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) No where near close!

Huh? I follow plenty of people on twitter who post regularly during games, just because someone has twitter they're less of a fan? Wow.

This post has been edited by kurtsimonw: Mar 7 2015, 09:20 PM

[han2503]

Huh? I follow plenty of people on twitter who post regularly during games, just because someone has twitter they're less of a fan? Wow.

Putting words in my mouth, you said twitterverse, not friends on twitter who also follow Milan, there's a major difference.

And just because those people don't rate him doesn't mean that others don't. I know many other Milan fans that do. Does that make them wrong because they don't agree with you or your twitterverse?

[kurtsimonw]

And just because those people don't rate him doesn't mean that others don't. I know many other Milan fans that do. Does that make them wrong because they don't agree with you or your twitterverse?

No, difference is I'm not laughing at their opinion.

[kurtsimonw]

LOL Mexes falls over the ball and wins a penalty, brilliant! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

[han2503]

Mexes proving to be a difference maker, not so stupid now is it? Unlike the Muntari decision

Menez 1-1

[X-Offender]

LOL Mexes falls over the ball and wins a penalty, brilliant! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

Clear foul.

[kurtsimonw]

Disappointing lack of team cohesion, barely anyone celebrating the goal, only 2 players went to Menez.

[kurtsimonw]

Mexes proving to be a difference maker, not so stupid now is it? Unlike the Muntari decision

Menez 1-1

Muntari falls over the ball enough, too.

[han2503]

No, difference is I'm not laughing at their opinion.

Like I said, there's a major difference between the general twitterverse and fans who actually follow Milan regularly that you follow

[han2503]

Muntari falls over the ball enough, too.

Mexes actually makes it look convincing because it's intentional, not bumbling around.

And since when are you now finally acknowledging how truly and epically terrible Muntari is?

[han2503]

Some seriously terrible stuff...

[William405]

Disappointing lack of team cohesion, barely anyone celebrating the goal, only 2 players went to Menez.

Yeah, that's been the case for a while now... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

[han2503]

Yeah, that's been the case for a while now... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

As I've always maintained, we're simply not a team, just a bunch of individuals, and this has been the case for a while now, not just under Pippo

[kurtsimonw]

And since when are you now finally acknowledging how truly and epically terrible Muntari is?

I've never thought Muntari was a good player, I just never bought in to the opinion that he's as bad as you say. Well, I thought he was decent for both Udinese and Portsmouth, but nothing more than that.

This post has been edited by kurtsimonw: Mar 7 2015, 09:51 PM

[han2503]

MEXES (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

[kurtsimonw]

MEXINHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

Both goals were so hilariously unintentional from Mexes (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

[han2503]

I've never thought Muntari was a good player, I just never bought in to the opinion that he's as bad as you say. Well, I thought he was decent for both Udinese and Portsmouth, but nothing more than that.

I don't think he was ever close to decent for us. And yes, I've always believed that he's as bad as I made him out to be with my complaints.

There are players where I can admit that my perception is skewed because I don't like them or their style much, but in this case, no.

[han2503]

MEXINHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

Both goals were so hilariously unintentional from Mexes (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

I don't think that second one was unintentional, more a bit lucky

[kurtsimonw]

I don't think that second one was intentional, more a bit lucky

Oh well, I'll take any goal and any lead.

[han2503]

Oh well, I'll take any goal and any lead.

At least that seems to have woken them a bit up

[X-Offender]

MEXINHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

Both goals were so hilariously unintentional from Mexes (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

Kind of blowing it in your face there. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

[han2503]

Kind of blowing it in your face there. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

I think we've had Muntari doing this to us one too many times now to gloat about it.

What matters is if he's doing the job he's supposed to be doing well, and imo he's been solid defensively. And that's what's important. The goal is just a bonus

Cerci off for Honda on the wing, brilliant again Pippo

[han2503]

And Muntari's f@ck up just now sparks the attack that nearly results in the equaliser. Only centimetres away

[kurtsimonw]

Bocchetti for Pazzini? That's so defeatist.

[han2503]

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Bocchetti for Pazzo. How much more mid-table can Pippo get?

Whistling all round, and I'm going to go out on a limb and say it's for the sub, not Pazzo

[kurtsimonw]

Does a 15 year old FIFA player control Menez?

[han2503]

Does a 15 year old FIFA player control Menez?

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[X-Offender]

Man, that last sub was just so sad...

[han2503]

Don't do it. Don't bring Destro on for injury time. That's just a slap in the face and what Allegri used to do to you

[X-Offender]

Honda is just soooo poor...

[kurtsimonw]

Pippo out. Embarrassing.

[X-Offender]

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[han2503]

Pippo almost crying...

[kurtsimonw]

If you want to hold a result, you pack the midfield, break up play, keep possession.

Instead our defenders were in each others way, they had quite a few chances late. Our attacking players should've just seen the game out instead of shooting all the time.

[X-Offender]

Give up, Pippo. What are you still doing on the bench.

[han2503]

Well, what can one say at this point?

I think just letting Tasso take over for these last few matches at this point would be for the best. For both parties

[han2503]

If you want to hold a result, you pack the midfield, break up play, keep possession.

Instead our defenders were in each others way, they had quite a few chances late. Our attacking players should've just seen the game out instead of shooting all the time.

Menez being mostly at fault there, so many opportunities where he could have played someone through, but as you so rightly pointed out, he seems like someone playing Fifa with no X button. Just ridiculous

And the subs as you correctly pointed out were also awful and made things worse. Once Bocchetti came on everyone seemed clueless as to what they were supposed to be doing.

Players giving the ball away cheaply in midfield certainly did not help. (I'm looking at you Muntari)

[X-Offender]

Is there really any point in watching the remainder of the season, I wonder... I know following our games has been a chore and waste of time for a while, but at this point I really cannot find any motivation whatsoever to keep supporting this team.

[han2503]

Is there really any point in watching the remainder of the season, I wonder... I know following our games has been a chore and waste of time for a while, but at this point I really cannot find any motivation whatsoever to keep supporting this team.

At this point I feel like I watch more out of habit rather than any joy or the thrilling anxiety I would await any given match day in the past

[Danny]

No analysis from me. Nothing.

Just this stat which sums this up:

Pippo, statistically, is officially our worst manager since 1941.

I've got nothing else to say. No ratings Acid. What the hell is the point?

[maldini03]

I completely agree Danny, when we were up 2-1 I said in the last five minutes that we would concede. I thought it would be Toni on a corner so at least there was come surprise in the way that we conceded.
This is becoming tough to watch, its just sad really. Pippo has to go, have to start finding a foundation for next season.

[X-Offender]

Benching Cerci for Honda, then the inexcusable, Pazzini for Bocchetti. Oh, Pippo... It was as if we were Verona trying to cling to the result against the tougher side.

[drucurl]

I think I broke a record today....fell asleep three times in the second half (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)

[X-Offender]

I think I broke a record today....fell asleep three times in the second half (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)

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[drucurl]

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Please get rid of that signature it's depressing the f**k out of me. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

Also I have a theory.....Muntari actually has a negative IQ.....since in reality a -ve IQ can exist (much like the fact that there's no "true" negative electrical charge) the collective IQ of both the squad and coach is reduced. This enables me to comprehend the decision to bring on a CB against Verona in the closing stages of the game

Either that or in another universe, their Muntari has more footballing IQ than Dinho, P!rlo and Zidane put together and in order for equilibrium to exist, our Muntari has 0 IQ.

While neither theory is comforting, I can at least sleep easier in the knowledge that the vortex of stupidity is somehow negated.

This post has been edited by drucurl: Mar 8 2015, 01:25 AM

[Danny]

Well, I have decided to join X in depressed smugness. While I defended Pippo following his appointment, I'm sure every one of you will remember I was dead set against him being made manager. I gave him a chance to prove me wrong, even defending his media displays (X gave up after the Juve match, but I decided to cut a bit more slack), but I'm now done.

I hate to say I told you all so, but I did. Knew this would be a disaster, but it's exceeded even my expectations.

[han2503]

Well, I have decided to join X in depressed smugness. While I defended Pippo following his appointment, I'm sure every one of you will remember I was dead set against him being made manager. I gave him a chance to prove me wrong, even defending his media displays (X gave up after the Juve match, but I decided to cut a bit more slack), but I'm now done.

I hate to say I told you all so, but I did. Knew this would be a disaster, but it's exceeded even my expectations.

Well to be fair, you didn't want him because you thought he was goos for the primavera because he was doing good there.

In reality no one could have foreseen the disaster he would be

[Danny]

Well to be fair, you didn't want him because you thought he was goos for the primavera because he was doing good there.

True, but I also knew he was too green for the managerial role too.

In reality no one could have foreseen the disaster he would be

I didn't expect him to be this bad, indeed.

[kurtsimonw]

It's almost as if he told Bocchetti to come on and just defend, without having all 3 centre backs knowing what their specific role was. It's like he plays too much FM and thinks throwing on another defender will make defending easier. Without communication, it'll cause more problems than it helps.

[Fillipo Simone]

Well, what can one say at this point?

I think just letting Tasso take over for these last few matches at this point would be for the best. For both parties

By all means, let's give Tassotti a chance. But I'd be more happy with someone from the club but not Tasso. When we found don Cesare as an interim coach it was a great decision.

I don't see how Tassotti could motivate or wake our squad up. He's been there with Allegri, Seedorf and Pippo all along and if he really was up to something more shrewd then the managers did, he surely would have advised them to do so. I'm really not take by the idea, especially not when having in mind that Seedorf wanted him out, which should mean something.

[Danny]

I am utterly against Tasso becoming manager for even the briefest period. 10000000000000000000000000%.

[kurtsimonw]

I'm 100% against any former Milan player taking over. I don't care if they're an Inter legend. Give the best possible option the job.

[Fillipo Simone]

I'm 100% against any former Milan player taking over. I don't care if they're an Inter legend. Give the best possible option the job.

I did not mean former player. I meant someone from the club but not Tasso.

[han2503]

I think we have to factor in many things in this

Tasso is an easy solution to see us through what is already a wasted season

Bringing someone in who we plan on keeping long term now would be a bad decision imo, so that's out of the question.

And any someone from within the club setup imo isn't much different from Tasso.

[X-Offender]

Silvio and Galliani are about to meet tonight, Pippo could be on his way out, Brocchi and Galli might take over till the end of the season.

Source: Mediaset

[Fillipo Simone]

Yes, this is the solution I was advocating. Tassotti clearly cannot do the job.

[Danny]

Silvio and Galliani are about to meet tonight, Pippo could be on his way out, Brocchi and Galli might take over till the end of the season.

Source: Mediaset

Great, more dross.

Well, this season is such an embarrassing write off I guess it doesn't matter.

The dream this summer is Conte, Montella or Klopp.

We'll get Maldini.

[Fillipo Simone]

What are you talking about? Maldini 1) won't ever coach and 2) isn't in a good relationship with Galliani. And you still dream about Conte?

[Danny]

It was a joke.

[han2503]

Yes, this is the solution I was advocating. Tassotti clearly cannot do the job.

And you think Brocchi can??

[Fillipo Simone]

And you think Brocchi can??

How should I know?? But the thing is, Pippo and Tasso worked closely together. A fresh face from inside the club could possibly have a stronger impact on the team and individual players then Tassotti.

[X-Offender]

Whatever guys, he's still staying. There wasn't even a meeting at all. That's how much we don't care... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

[Fillipo Simone]

Really? How do you know?

[X-Offender]

Really? How do you know?

Mediaset continuous update: http://www.sportmediaset.mediaset.it/calci...-galliani.shtml

[han2503]

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[Danny]

How many times? They leak out false hope then deny it a few hours later.

They're doing it constantly this season and I've called it many times.

[drucurl]

The more time passes the more it seems that EVERYTHING Seedorf wanted to do (such as distancing himself from Tassotti) and even everything he thought was 100% spot on

[X-Offender]

The more time passes the more it seems that EVERYTHING Seedorf wanted to do (such as distancing himself from Tassotti) and even everything he thought was 100% spot on

Except for not playing Abate.

[X-Offender]

So, now Mediaset reports that Berlusconi was ready to fire Inzaghi but Galliani saved his @ss. Fiorentina will be decisive for his fate, and seeing how we're 99% going to lose, then that's bye-bye Pippo?

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[Fillipo Simone]

Somehow, we'll win that match. I bet on it.

[X-Offender]

It would be a true shock.

[Danny]

So, now Mediaset reports that Berlusconi was ready to fire Inzaghi but Galliani saved his @ss. Fiorentina will be decisive for his fate, and seeing how we're 99% going to lose, then that's bye-bye Pippo?

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More propaganda. Don't believe it people.

[X-Offender]

I don't believe anything anymore (except for Berlu selling this goddamn club).

[Danny]

I don't even believe that.

[Fillipo Simone]

Patience.

[han2503]

So, now Mediaset reports that Berlusconi was ready to fire Inzaghi but Galliani saved his @ss. Fiorentina will be decisive for his fate, and seeing how we're 99% going to lose, then that's bye-bye Pippo?

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Didn't this very same thing happen with Allegri multiple times?

Galliani is the real problem for us, not Silvio. Silvio's biggest mistake is letting him loose to run this clubs as he wishes for all these years