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post Feb 2 2014, 06:39 PM
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http://www.milannews.it/primo-piano/milan-...e-ultime-135464

Seems like we reached an agreement with Michael Agazzi (will be a free player in the summer so we can agree with him now). Hope he'll be our second choice next season and they are still planning to bring someone better.
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post Feb 2 2014, 06:49 PM
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QUOTE (Jack Bauer @ Feb 2 2014, 06:39 PM) *
http://www.milannews.it/primo-piano/milan-...e-ultime-135464

Seems like we reached an agreement with Michael Agazzi (will be a free player in the summer so we can agree with him now). Hope he'll be our second choice next season and they are still planning to bring someone better.


We still don't know that.
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post Feb 2 2014, 06:55 PM
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That's why I wrote 'Hope'.
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post Feb 2 2014, 07:00 PM
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QUOTE (Jack Bauer @ Feb 2 2014, 02:39 PM) *
http://www.milannews.it/primo-piano/milan-...e-ultime-135464

Seems like we reached an agreement with Michael Agazzi (will be a free player in the summer so we can agree with him now). Hope he'll be our second choice next season and they are still planning to bring someone better.

I thought he signed a contract with chievo...i guess it was just a loan...
If not, I'm not sure i'm enthralled about his signing. The chance of signing a player of the raw talent of Perin doesn't happen every day, especially when Juve and Inter already have their #1s and wouldn't be competing for his signing. No doubt he will offer more then the current 3 keepers, although i still feel as though Gabriel might have the potential of being a stronger keeper then Agazzi is now. Anyhow, Milan settling for the cheap option surely doesn't take any of us by surprise...
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post Feb 3 2014, 12:23 AM
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QUOTE (Jack Bauer @ Feb 2 2014, 06:55 PM) *
That's why I wrote 'Hope'.


Ha, didn't notice that. My bad.
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post Feb 3 2014, 08:53 AM
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Wingers, Left Back, One top centre back, Goalkeeper.

Easily looking at 60 million total in outlay. We'll need to sell, because I don't think we have a market budget of more than 30 million without sales.
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QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Feb 3 2014, 08:53 AM) *
Wingers, Left Back, One top centre back, Goalkeeper.

Easily looking at 60 million total in outlay. We'll need to sell, because I don't think we have a market budget of more than 30 million without sales.

I don't think we need a LB aside from someone who can cover Abate on the right the FB area is good.

I'd much prefer a really good CB that can replace Mexes, especially since it's clear that the intention is to sell him
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post Feb 3 2014, 03:10 PM
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QUOTE (han2503 @ Feb 3 2014, 01:55 PM) *
I don't think we need a LB aside from someone who can cover Abate on the right the FB area is good.


lets buy santon already and trade away constant
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QUOTE (ganney @ Feb 3 2014, 04:10 PM) *
lets buy santon already and trade away constant

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post Feb 4 2014, 02:10 AM
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http://forzaitalianfootball.com/2014/02/ac...ensive-changes/

Don't like the Abate thing at all, especially for someone like Urby.
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post Feb 4 2014, 11:15 AM
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QUOTE (Jack Bauer @ Feb 4 2014, 02:10 AM) *
http://forzaitalianfootball.com/2014/02/ac...ensive-changes/

Don't like the Abate thing at all, especially for someone like Urby.
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That would be retarded beyond belief
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post Feb 4 2014, 11:31 PM
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Yeah, retarded! A downgrade from idiot, eh? And all this time I thought the retard was a step better than an idiot (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
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post Feb 5 2014, 12:28 AM
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QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Feb 4 2014, 11:31 PM) *
Yeah, retarded! A downgrade from idiot, eh? And all this time I thought the retard was a step better than an idiot (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

What would you call selling Italy's starting RB to accomodate Urby Emannualson?
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QUOTE (han2503 @ Feb 5 2014, 12:28 AM) *
What would you call selling Italy's starting RB to accomodate Urby Emannualson?


Why are you trying to argue with the troll?
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QUOTE (Jack Bauer @ Feb 4 2014, 04:10 AM) *
http://forzaitalianfootball.com/2014/02/ac...ensive-changes/

Don't like the Abate thing at all, especially for someone like Urby.
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It says for De Sciglio. Where does it say anything about Urby?
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QUOTE (CHU-LIP @ Feb 5 2014, 01:06 AM) *
It says for De Sciglio. Where does it say anything about Urby?


The very first paragraph.

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[...] while Ignazio Abate could be a possible casualty of the new regime.


EDIT: Sorry, thought you meant Abate. My bad.

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post Feb 5 2014, 01:59 AM
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QUOTE (CHU-LIP @ Feb 5 2014, 04:06 AM) *
It says for De Sciglio. Where does it say anything about Urby?

Bacause it wouldn't be MDS vs Abate for RB role if Seedorf didn't see Urby as a starting and irreplaceable LB. IMO, Abate at RB and MDS at LB as starters as it was before is a much better option than Urby with one of them.
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QUOTE (Jack Bauer @ Feb 5 2014, 03:59 AM) *
Bacause it wouldn't be MDS vs Abate for RB role if Seedorf didn't see Urby as a starting and irreplaceable LB. IMO, Abate at RB and MDS at LB as starters as it was before is a much better option than Urby with one of them.

Where did he say that?
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post Feb 5 2014, 02:19 AM
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He didn't say that but it seems like that so far + it was implied there: http://www.football-italia.net/43900/seedo...enew-emanuelson and it turns to be true so far as Abate is healthy but not playing and this wasn't the only rumor about his possible departure.

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post Feb 5 2014, 05:02 AM
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I'm starting to dislike Seedorf as a coach already. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) Abate is one of my favorite players.
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QUOTE (han2503 @ Feb 5 2014, 03:28 AM) *
What would you call selling Italy's starting RB to accomodate Urby Emannualson?


Id call that f-ing retarded (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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post Feb 5 2014, 01:19 PM
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QUOTE (Forza Milan! @ Feb 5 2014, 02:07 PM) *
A few interesting articles on Goal.com.

<http://www.goal.com/it/news/7/calciomercato/2014/02/05/4595251/il-milan-si-prepara-a-unestate-rovente-45-milioni-pronti-per> is basically saying that we will have some money to spend this summer, something in the order of 45M. Some data points:
- Missing CL will cost us 30M, but ...
- Recent contracts made with players have a clause that reduces salary by 20% if Milan does not make a European competition. With player salaries at 105M, that would be a savings of 21M.
- Additional savings would come if we get rid of excess players (in particular Mexes and Robinho). Personally, I will believe this when I see it, as our recent track record shows we are not good at unloading players.
- The article also has some suspect looking calculations that yield 45M as the amount we could spend

<http://www.goal.com/it/news/7/calciomercato/2014/02/05/4596273/pazza-idea-cellino-per-il-cagliari-galliani-presidente-al-fianco-?ICID=HP_TS_2> is basically sayng that Galliani is being offered a job to run Cagliari. Apparently the team is going to be owned by the Al Thani family from Abu Dhabi, who have strong links with Galliani (as does Cellino, who apparently recommended him for the job). Have mixed feelings about this. It is time for new management and new ideas. OTOH, who do we have that can step in? Barbara? (Hmm ...)

<http://www.goal.com/it/news/7/calciomercato/2014/02/05/4596452/calciomercato-milan-altro-colpo-low-cost-nel-mirino-piace?ICID=HP_BN_1> links us with Alex from PSG, who apparently is not renewing his contract. We are also linked with Vidic, Musacchio, Doria from Botafogo, and Martins Indi from Feyenoord. Only familiar with Vidic. Any insight on the rest?

Should have posted this under "Summer Transfers 2014", did not realize it had been opened :-). Can we pin it?

In any case, Galliani has denied the rumor about Cagliari (see <http://www.goal.com/it/news/7/calciomercato/2014/02/05/4596878/macch%C3%A8-cagliari-galliani-giura-amore-eterno-al-milan-non-lo?ICID=HP_BN_4>). Though in Galliani's case a denial could mean anything.
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post Feb 5 2014, 06:14 PM
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^ Thanks for the info. The Goal article was interesting.

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Taarabt: "Milan have the Italian Balloteli, and now they'll have the Moroccan Balotelli"

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Something tells me we've another Niang among our ranks. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif) Less talk more action, Taarabt boy!
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Read on FIF that we are after Van der Vaart, end of contract and Seedorf might work his magic...
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QUOTE (X-Offender @ Feb 5 2014, 02:14 PM) *
^ Thanks for the info. The Goal article was interesting.

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yeah, this is what's allowed to happen when the high-flying disciplinary boot of Ibra no longer patrols and invigilates practices...guys start thinking they can invent a reputation for themselves without even playing 1 minute for the club...
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QUOTE (KillerMax @ Feb 5 2014, 04:02 AM) *
I'm starting to dislike Seedorf as a coach already. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) Abate is one of my favorite players.

Never liked Abate. Seedorf is AMAZING! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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QUOTE (dst @ Feb 5 2014, 09:26 PM) *
Never liked Abate. Seedorf is AMAZING! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)


Getting rid of Abate would be a terrible move. He's a starter for the National team, a Milan youth product, entering his prime years as a footballer, and doesn't make a huge amount. I like Urby and I think he should get an extension but we shouldn't be sacrificing Abate for him.
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QUOTE (milanbuf88 @ Feb 5 2014, 09:47 PM) *
Getting rid of Abate would be a terrible move. He's a starter for the National team, a Milan youth product, entering his prime years as a footballer, and doesn't make a huge amount. I like Urby and I think he should get an extension but we shouldn't be sacrificing Abate for him.


Yeah, it's nonsense. There are SO many ahead of him that need to go.

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Mediaset reports that Juve have reached an agreement for Fernando Reges, whereas Vidic has already signed for Inter. They were both our objectives.
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QUOTE (X-Offender @ Feb 6 2014, 06:30 PM) *
Mediaset reports that Juve have reached an agreement for Fernando Reges, whereas Vidic has already signed for Inter. They were both our objectives.

Oh, that's just grand. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)
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QUOTE (il_diavolo_mtl @ Feb 5 2014, 08:38 PM) *
Read on FIF that we are after Van der Vaart, end of contract and Seedorf might work his magic...

Meh, he's past his best, if this was a few years ago sure. Having said that I always preferred Sneijder over him.

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Mediaset reports that Juve have reached an agreement for Fernando Reges, whereas Vidic has already signed for Inter. They were both our objectives.

Meh, again, Vidic is a player that I'd have wanted to see with us a few years ago. Now he's deteriorated badly. Let Inter get him, I'd rather we go after someone in his early twenties that's showing talent
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QUOTE (han2503 @ Feb 6 2014, 02:49 PM) *
Meh, again, Vidic is a player that I'd have wanted to see with us a few years ago. Now he's deteriorated badly. Let Inter get him, I'd rather we go after someone in his early twenties that's showing talent


I think we should convince Mexes to halve his wages, from €4 million to €2 million or so. Given our financial resources, we simply cannot aim for a better defender.
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QUOTE (X-Offender @ Feb 6 2014, 03:12 PM) *
I think we should convince Mexes to halve his wages, from €4 million to €2 million or so. Given our financial resources, we simply cannot aim for a better defender.

I've been saying this for a while. But given that Seedorf isn't using him, this while he's on a 4m wage, I don't think keeping him in general (no matter what he's getting paid) is in the plans for them
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QUOTE (han2503 @ Feb 6 2014, 04:07 PM) *
I've been saying this for a while. But given that Seedorf isn't using him, this while he's on a 4m wage, I don't think keeping him in general (no matter what he's getting paid) is in the plans for them


We don't know that yet. I think the problem is his wage rather than his skills. Maybe not playing him is like a warning, either earn less or GTFO.
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QUOTE (han2503 @ Feb 6 2014, 10:49 AM) *
Meh, he's past his best, if this was a few years ago sure. Having said that I always preferred Sneijder over him.

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Your opinion, but who else amongst our 3 AMs is scoring a goal every second game and an assist every third?

The only thing i would say agaisnt this is that, with a squad likely to missout on european footy next near, how big do we want the squad to be...

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QUOTE (milanbuf88 @ Feb 6 2014, 02:47 AM) *
Getting rid of Abate would be a terrible move. He's a starter for the National team, a Milan youth product, entering his prime years as a footballer, and doesn't make a huge amount. I like Urby and I think he should get an extension but we shouldn't be sacrificing Abate for him.

If we can get good money for him I'd let him go.

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Yeah, it's nonsense. There are SO many ahead of him that need to go.

True but they can't get us any money.

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Mediaset reports that Juve have reached an agreement for Fernando Reges, whereas Vidic has already signed for Inter. They were both our objectives.

Didn't Reges sign for Manchester?

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We don't know that yet. I think the problem is his wage rather than his skills. Maybe not playing him is like a warning, either earn less or GTFO.

That's stupid, mob-like behavior. We're obviously hurting our team in the process if that's true. And I would not personally wanna play for a team that chose this path.

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The only thing i would say agaisnt this is that, with a squad likely to missout on european footy next near, how big do we want the squad to be...

Good point. It's also who wants to come to Milan right now. We're a mess. And have been since last year. We're not an attractive destination right now. And many agents would advice their young, aspiring clients against joining us. We can't get many of them, if any.
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QUOTE (dst @ Feb 6 2014, 03:00 PM) *
Good point. It's also who wants to come to Milan right now. We're a mess. And have been since last year. We're not an attractive destination right now. And many agents would advice their young, aspiring clients against joining us. We can't get many of them, if any.

I would have agreed with this pre-seedorf. I think this technocratic leadership has some player-appeal (espescially if you're dutch). I read the other day that even Stam would consider leaving his directorial position at Ajax if Milan made a good offer....just to be an assistant manager! Even Crespo has openly said he"d love to join us, though i suspect he<s fishing for a managerial position elsewhere...

For the likes of the current generation of dutch players neering the end of their careers, i don<t know that Seedorf would be enough to secure them, but in dreaming a bigger dream, the young dutch midfielder or young dutch defender, given a chance to play for a big club that no longer has the money to block it's holes with copious market spending, that has offered more and more oppurtunities to young players, we might be a chance worth taking...

Just think of all the argentinian starlets that must have growth idolizing Crespo, presented a chance to be coached by him and become close to him at a huge club where the stadium can fit up to 80k screaming fans....it's quite something

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QUOTE (il_diavolo_mtl @ Feb 6 2014, 06:30 PM) *
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Your opinion, but who else amongst our 3 AMs is scoring a goal every second game and an assist every third?

The only thing i would say agaisnt this is that, with a squad likely to missout on european footy next near, how big do we want the squad to be...

Well his stats look good, but he's not the player he used to be. Add to that he's on the same level as Kaka and Honda, what we need to elevate our attack to the next level is a real quality winger, not another slow AM


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That's stupid, mob-like behavior. We're obviously hurting our team in the process if that's true. And I would not personally wanna play for a team that chose this path.

I don't think so.

I think the club needs to finally get some b@lls with regards to dealing with players. We cannot afford to let things slide as usual. 2m per year over the next 3 years or so is still a very generous contract offer for Mexes. If he doesn't want to take it then it should be made clear that we'll be looking elsewhere. On the other hand the passive behaviour shown when dealing with the likes of Mesbah, Traore and now Constant, players who we want to sell but can't because they want to stay and earn their wages shows that we still haven't learnt our lesson. Look at what Mourinho constantly does when he doesn't want a player anymore and that player clings on. Banishes him from the squad and doesn't even allow him to train with the rest, Juve are now doing the same thing with Quagliarella. No it's not "classy" behaviour, but there's no more room left for classy, especially when we've thrown classy out the window in every other area. When Constant rejected that move he should have been given an ultimatum, either accept or suffer the consequences. Because if the club doesn't do this, we'll continue to be taken for a ride
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I don't think so.

I think the club needs to finally get some b@lls with regards to dealing with players. We cannot afford to let things slide as usual. 2m per year over the next 3 years or so is still a very generous contract offer for Mexes. If he doesn't want to take it then it should be made clear that we'll be looking elsewhere. On the other hand the passive behaviour shown when dealing with the likes of Mesbah, Traore and now Constant, players who we want to sell but can't because they want to stay and earn their wages shows that we still haven't learnt our lesson. Look at what Mourinho constantly does when he doesn't want a player anymore and that player clings on. Banishes him from the squad and doesn't even allow him to train with the rest, Juve are now doing the same thing with Quagliarella. No it's not "classy" behaviour, but there's no more room left for classy, especially when we've thrown classy out the window in every other area. When Constant rejected that move he should have been given an ultimatum, either accept or suffer the consequences. Because if the club doesn't do this, we'll continue to be taken for a ride

I'm not talking about Constant or any other Milan or Mourinho reject. I'm talking about Mexes. We can't afford not to play Mexes. Unless you learned to like Bonera.
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I'm not talking about Constant or any other Milan or Mourinho reject. I'm talking about Mexes. We can't afford not to play Mexes. Unless you learned to like Bonera.

No, of course I know that. I've been harping on about that for months now, ever since Bonera had his "miracle" run of a handful of decent games and suddenly some wanted him starting games.

But having said that, we also need to look at this from a financial and business perspective.

We don't know what's going on, if it's really Seedorf not taking a liking to him for whatever reason and he's already decided that he wants him sold, then we can't do anything about it. Best to sell him in the summer. We could easily get 10 to 12m for him, even more if Monaco are really interested.

But if this is as x-off said, an internal battle due to contract issues. Then yes, I do think that the club should stand their ground. Why? Because he'll be a free agent soon enough, and either he stays WITH an extension AND a reduced wage or he's sold in the summer, we can't afford to either lose him for free or keep him on the bench while earning the money he is.

Footballing wise. Yes, we cannot afford to have a player of his quality on the bench while Bonera makes an @ss out of himself on a weekly basis. But in either case, a decision needs to be made sooner rather than later, and benching him could force his hand either way.
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Mexes should be played alongside Rami till the end of the season. Then Galliani has to make it clear to him that either he cuts his wage, or he gets sold and we look elsewhere for a replacement. Mexes is the best defender we've got, but €4 million is too much for our pockets.
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Mexes should be played alongside Rami till the end of the season. Then Galliani has to make it clear him that either he cuts his wage, or he gets sold and we look elsewhere for a replacement. Mexes is the best defender we've got, but €4 million is too much for our pockets.

Agreed,

Although I think by shrinking the squad size we don't have to bully a good performer. Besides why would any elite(or as elite as we can manage) want to play for us when we go after them screaming fowl one year into a contract we drafted. Sell the pulp and we will have MORE than enough to keep him...
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Mexes should be played alongside Rami till the end of the season. Then Galliani has to make it clear to him that either he cuts his wage, or he gets sold and we look elsewhere for a replacement. Mexes is the best defender we've got, but €4 million is too much for our pockets.

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According to Mediaset, we'll sign Alex (32) from PSG for free this summer (2-year contract for €2.8 million per season + option for a third year). We're also far ahead of Juve in regards to Fernando. Agazzi will be the new goalie. Our main objective will be Cerci, whom we want to get by selling Saponara to Parma.

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Tuttosport says we're after Fabio Coentrao for the left flank. He'll cost around €10 million. We might get him on loan or pay his fee in installments. Coentrao on the left in order to definitely place De Sciglio on the right. Doria is our main objective in defense.

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Without commenting on the names, I'm at least satisfied that work is being done in the right areas. I was half worried we'd be getting one more striker.
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I don't like the rumors one bit. This would be another restart. I'm getting tired.

Mexes, Abate, MDS are the few players that actually play good at Milan. Now we have the chance to build on that, but as usual, we decide to turn the page and sell in order to bring in questionable "targets". Don't get me wrong, Coentrao is a good player - but do we really need him? Alex is a fair defender, yet I wonder myself, wouldn't Mexes perhaps agree cutting his salary to €2.8 million per season? Because in that case, Mexes has the advantage: he's played for years in Serie A, he's been good for Milan and he has still something to offer.

Cerci and Fernando are okay, but not game changers. I'd rather we buy one player, but with true class or at least top potential then again buying all the usual rejects we can find.
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Without commenting on the names, I'm at least satisfied that work is being done in the right areas. I was half worried we'd be getting one more striker.

You are? I really don't think we need fullbacks right now, and that seems to be our main thing.
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I don't like the rumors one bit. This would be another restart. I'm getting tired.

Mexes, Abate, MDS are the few players that actually play good at Milan. Now we have the chance to build on that, but as usual, we decide to turn the page and sell in order to bring in questionable "targets". Don't get me wrong, Coentrao is a good player - but do we really need him? Alex is a fair defender, yet I wonder myself, wouldn't Mexes perhaps agree cutting his salary to €2.8 million per season? Because in that case, Mexes has the advantage: he's played for years in Serie A, he's been good for Milan and he has still something to offer.

Cerci and Fernando are okay, but not game changers. I'd rather we buy one player, but with true class or at least top potential then again buying all the usual rejects we can find.


I agree. From those names mentioned, I'd get Fernando and Cerci.

Call me mad, but I think in defense we're quite covered. Abate, Rami, Mexes, MDS as starters, Zapata, Bonera and Emanuelson as subs. Maybe bring another average CB to replace Silvestre.

Obviously Agazzi is a terrible choice for first GK. We should go after Perin or Marchetti.

This is what I'd like to see for next season:

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Fernando - Montolivo
Cerci - Honda - Kaká
Balotelli


More than doable, and not very expensive, especially if that article about us having €45 million to spend is true.
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QUOTE (X-Offender @ Feb 7 2014, 10:23 AM) *
According to Mediaset, we'll sign Alex (32) from PSG for free this summer (2-year contract for €2.8 million per season + option for a third year). We're also far ahead of Juve in regards to Fernando. Agazzi will be the new goalie. Our main objective will be Cerci, whom we want to get by selling Saponara to Parma.

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Alex might be okay for us for a bit (in a rotational sense), but similar situation to Essien if you ask me.

I'm not denying that Cerci is an influential player for Torino, but I'm not sure how an actual winger would fit into Milan. Hopefully if one does arrive it adds something extra to the side, and moreover, hopefully if Cerci was to arrive he wouldn't suffer a similar fate of Gilardino (big fish small pond problem)


QUOTE (X-Offender @ Feb 7 2014, 10:31 AM) *
Tuttosport says we're after Fabio Coentrao for the left flank. He'll cost around €10 million. We might get him on loan or pay his fee in installments. Coentrao on the left in order to definitely place De Sciglio on the right. Doria is our main objective in defense.

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Anyone ever seen Doria in actual gameplay?


QUOTE (X-Offender @ Feb 7 2014, 11:46 AM) *
I agree. From those names mentioned, I'd get Fernando and Cerci.

Call me mad, but I think in defense we're quite covered. Abate, Rami, Mexes, MDS as starters, Zapata, Bonera and Emanuelson as subs. Maybe bring another average CB to replace Silvestre.

Obviously Agazzi is a terrible choice for first GK. We should go after Perin or Marchetti.

This is what I'd like to see for next season:

Perin
Abate - Rami - Mexes - MDS
Fernando - Montolivo
Cerci - Honda - Kaká
Balotelli


More than doable, and not very expensive, especially if that article about us having €45 million to spend is true.

According to this article Fernando has signed a contract extension: http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/spo...ew-deal-6686510

I'm not even that familiar with him to be honest (but Im thinking I should be...) *shrugs*

Btw, what 45mil? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)
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Alex might be okay for us for a bit (in a rotational sense), but similar situation to Essien if you ask me.

I'm not denying that Cerci is an influential player for Torino, but I'm not sure how an actual winger would fit into Milan. Hopefully if one does arrive it adds something extra to the side, and moreover, hopefully if Cerci was to arrive he wouldn't suffer a similar fate of Gilardino (big fish small pond problem)


Well, we need wingers if Seedorf plans on playing with 4-2-3-1.

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Anyone ever seen Doria in actual gameplay?


Nope, haven't.

QUOTE (TriniKing_CE @ Feb 8 2014, 04:22 PM) *
According to this article Fernando has signed a contract extension: http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/spo...ew-deal-6686510

I'm not even that familiar with him to be honest (but Im thinking I should be...) *shrugs*


Yeah, I saw that. Guess it's goodbye then.

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Galliani was always the biggest culprit in the equation. He was the one who kept on insisting with Allegri after all. especially this summer when Roma wanted him, and he's the ones that shoulders the blame for our financial situation as well
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... I don't agree with everything written here, but there are some points to be considered.

Have a read.


I think his emphasis on the FFP part was weak, this Spring we shall all know if FFP was serious or not. That being said, I agree, why should an owner shell in 60MM each season. If I was the owner, I wouldn't even consider buying Milan in the first place, burning 60MM every year just for a football game, I'd rather invest 60mm every year in Microsoft shares with their cloud computing and all (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

Point being, this Spring the curtain shall fall on how legitimate FFP is and if the Berlusconi family is actually tightening its wallets or just trying to make the club FFP compliant.
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Smart guy. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/king.gif) Windows Azure is ready for prime time!
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Russian powerhouse Zenit St Petersburg have earmarked AC Milan’s Brazilian striker Robinho as their main transfer target.

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According to sportdirectnews.com, Zenit coach Luciano Spalletti is an admirer of the 30 year old Brazilian and would like to make a member of his squad before the deadline passes at the end of the month.

Robinho has three goals in 18 Serie A appearances for Milan this campaign.


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It is indeed; 99% of corporates world-wide use microsoft products. To have it integrated in a cloud would be a huge plus in terms of not having office/windows-tools in the form of physical disks to install; rather just purchase/cancel a subscription/license off the cloud. What is more interesting here is the new CEO was actually the brains in charge of putting together their cloud service.
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It is indeed; 99% of corporates world-wide use microsoft products. To have it integrated in a cloud would be a huge plus in terms of not having office/windows-tools in the form of physical disks to install; rather just purchase/cancel a subscription/license off the cloud. What is more interesting here is the new CEO was actually the brains in charge of putting together their cloud service.

Agreed. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/graduated.gif) That is why there has been renewed interest in Redmond stock these last two years or so. The new CEO, in collaboration with Bill Gates who will spend more time with the company, can really take things up another couple of levels. I'll be watching things with particular interest here.

Amazon is currently the cloud leader, but Microsoft is not all that far behind as the number one contender.
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Cerci is our primary transfer target for this summer. Seedorf has given his constant for the operation. Cerci's contract with Torino ends in 2015. His price is evaluated around €16 million, which is a lot for someone with only one year of contract left. We will try to lower it including Saponara and/or a couple of Primavera players. Juve are also interested in him.

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Cerci is our primary transfer target for this summer. Seedorf has given his constant for the operation. Cerci's contract with Torino ends in 2015. His price is evaluated around €16 million, which is a lot for someone with only one year of contract left. We will try to lower it including Saponara and/or a couple of Primavera players. Juve are also interested in him.

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Praying for Juve to take him

Spending 16m on a guy who only does well with mid-table clubs is seriously not the right way to go if we want to take a step up next year

We could get Iturbe for 1m less than that FFS!
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Praying for Juve to take him

Spending 16m on a guy who only does well with mid-table clubs is seriously not the right way to go if we want to take a step up next year

We could get Iturbe for 1m less than that FFS!


I don't think Cerci is worth that much, and I don't think he's as good as some people might him out to be, but you treat him as if he's Traoré or something. I think he'd be a good signing. And I think he's better than Iturbe.
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Considerably better then Iturbe.


Neither, I think we have enough options for the attacking department. If we are lacking depth there, we should look to the primavera.

Otherwise, investments should go into strengthening the defense. If Balotelli is sold in the summer, then a proper CF please.
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I don't think Cerci is worth that much, and I don't think he's as good as some people might him out to be, but you treat him as if he's Traoré or something. I think he'd be a good signing. And I think he's better than Iturbe.

Calling it like I see it, I never said he was at the level of Traore, but one of many players who thrive in average sides but can't make it in big ones. Add to that he's fast approaching 30.

Iturba is just a young talent and there lies the most important difference between the 2

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As I said, Cerci is fast approaching 30, Itrube is still on the right side of the age spectrum
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QUOTE (X-Offender @ Feb 17 2014, 08:29 PM) *
Fast approaching 30??? He's 26 FFS! Now you've done it, han. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

Isn't he 27? Or if not he's turning 27 this year. (Born 1987)

And for a player that relies on speed that's not good, he'll turn 28 during the season that we'll sign him in. How is that a smart investment
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QUOTE (han2503 @ Feb 17 2014, 09:35 PM) *
Isn't he 27? Or if not he's turning 27 this year. (Born 1987)

And for a player that relies on speed that's not good, he'll turn 28 during the season that we'll sign him in. How is that a smart investment


He's 26. His birthday is in July, so technically he won't turn 28 during the season that we'll sign him. He has a good 3-4 seasons ahead of him, and that's for how long we should sign him.

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http://www.football-italia.net/45323/milan...%80%99s-veltman
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Nice!

According to Mediaset, we are also interested in Jeremain Lens.
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I just read that Rosicksy is out of contract at the end of the year, he's 33 but i<ve always rated him as a super sub if the plan is to attack or kill off time with possession. I really doubt he'd cost a lot...
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Hmh, he's awfully injury-prone though.
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I highly doubt Seedorf will want him.
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Rosicky?

Nah...
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Rosicky?

Nah...


Yeah, don't want him either.
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Are you guys blind? Dude's gonna be free. Galliani will certainly pick him up one a 6M yearly wage, as is the custom with us.
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Are you guys blind? Dude's gonna be free. Galliani will certainly pick him up one a 6M yearly wage, as is the custom with us.


We don't pay €6 million per year since Thiago and Ibra left.
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We don't pay €6 million per year since Thiago and Ibra left.

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But I honestly don't think it's gonna happen. We have a new policy and I can't see Seedorf wanting him as well.
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But I honestly don't think it's gonna happen. We have a new policy and I can't see Seedorf wanting him as well.


Exactly.
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So there are reports that there will be bids for balotelli from arsenal and Tottenham.
Arsenal is suposed to bid 45M and Tott will bid lamela + cash....
Due to our lack of wingers (or money...) and having a proven Pazzo on the bench, would you pull the trigger?
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QUOTE (il_diavolo_mtl @ Mar 2 2014, 07:30 PM) *
So there are reports that there will be bids for balotelli from arsenal and Tottenham.
Arsenal is suposed to bid 45M and Tott will bid lamela + cash....
Due to our lack of wingers (or money...) and having a proven Pazzo on the bench, would you pull the trigger?

Don't know, Pazzo is a good striker, but he's not someone who I'd count on to lead the line

45m is a lot, if I'm 100% sure that we'll re-invest that then yeah, I'd probably sell up.

Don't know how true this is anyway, Balo is a great potential, but he's yet to prove that consistently, add to that he's a huge head case that many clubs would be hard pressed to trust
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Don't know, Pazzo is a good striker, but he's not someone who I'd count on to lead the line

45m is a lot, if I'm 100% sure that we'll re-invest that then yeah, I'd probably sell up.

Don't know how true this is anyway, Balo is a great potential, but he's yet to prove that consistently, add to that he's a huge head case that many clubs would be hard pressed to trust

I would almost go as far as saying, positionally, Pazzo offers a bigger box presence then Balo does, as he's always in and around the 6 yard area and rarely isolates himself on the wing.

It does seem as though Seedorf might be able to work with Balo, from the early signs, but we've said this of Mancini and Prandelli without much in terms of results.

This is a big year for Balo, a new player's coach, the prospect of missing out on the CL, World Cup year, new child, same tabloid following...

It's impossible to know whether he'd want to stay or not. I personally feel as though he wouldn't mind staying on for a year as I think he is happiest in Italy, but what goes through the boy's head is a mystery to all...
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But why ....

What if you need to fill the void of no CL money, that void being losses?

What if the player himself started throwing a fit about leaving the club, because PSG or Madrid offered him 8M a season, net?

What if the player decides Milan is nice, but in order to win he needs to move to Juventus?

... But because

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Milan up for sale?

<http://www.goal.com/it/news/2/serie-a/2014/03/05/4664206/berlusconi-molla-il-milan-cerca-acquirenti-ma-fininvest>

The news apparently came out on Bloomberg, though Fininvest denied.
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QUOTE (Forza Milan! @ Mar 6 2014, 07:41 AM) *
Milan up for sale?

<http://www.goal.com/it/news/2/serie-a/2014/03/05/4664206/berlusconi-molla-il-milan-cerca-acquirenti-ma-fininvest>

The news apparently came out on Bloomberg, though Fininvest denied.


I believe this is the best course of action, especially considering the situation with regards to FFP. However, I am a bit skeptical as to the incoming investor(s) and what their strategy is towards Milan.

QUOTE
“As evidenced by the recent purchases of Inter and AS Roma, Serie A and certain of its clubs are great brands,” said Chuck Baker, a partner with DLA Piper’s Global Sports Media and Entertainment practice, whose clients include AS Roma and Pallotta’s Raptor Capital Management LP. “If we can bring U.S. and other global sports marketing and merchandising strategies, newer facilities and an improved fan experience, the investments have tremendous upside potential.”


Hope for the best!
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According to Sky we've signed Alex (31) from PSG and we're really interested in Adebayor (30).

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QUOTE (X-Offender @ Mar 12 2014, 06:59 PM) *
...and we're really interested in Adebayor (30).

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Didn't want him ever since the 1st time we were being linked with him (back in his days at Arsenal) and I'm not interested with him now!

NO thanks!!!
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QUOTE (TriniKing_CE @ Mar 13 2014, 04:44 AM) *
Didn't want him ever since the 1st time we were being linked with him (back in his days at Arsenal) and I'm not interested with him now!

Well put. I was the same when we were first linked with him. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif) Another midranger.

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Well, Alex isn't what we need but he's a good addition anyway.
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i'd take adebayor, i thought he was excellent playing as a lone striker against, maldini,nesta,kaladze,oddo back in the 2008 game against aresenal + he's found his form again

what are our options anyway? balotelli will probably be sold.
Without funds, shouldn't we have scouts all over South America looking for talent rather than signing players past their prime on fat contracts
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