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Aug 11 2012, 09:38 PM
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Aug 12 2012, 10:53 AM
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Well, I still think Reuss will be sorely missed. And if I know Favre's teams - he won't be as successful in Europe as in the Liga.
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Aug 21 2012, 09:36 PM
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QUOTE (Jack Bauer @ Aug 21 2012, 10:27 PM)  Damn you Fillipo, beat me to it (IMG: style_emoticons/default/happy.gif) Haha, well better luck next time (IMG: style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) I feel so sorry for Gladbach. The fans deserved more. But they payed their prize for inexperience. Daems and Xhaka were awful as well.
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Aug 21 2012, 11:39 PM
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QUOTE (X-Offender @ Aug 21 2012, 11:41 PM)  Did Taiwo play for Kiev? All 90. Didn't do anything remotely bad.
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Aug 22 2012, 03:18 PM
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QUOTE (Jack Bauer @ Aug 22 2012, 03:12 PM)  His passing was bad. He has a habit to pass dangerous balls through the middle. One of them almost cause Borussia to score and the commentator said that because of his error Kiev lost their last league game. Yes, but this will likely get better when he starts feeling the team. His defending all in all was okay.
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Aug 28 2012, 10:29 PM
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Typical Udine.
Only us and Juve in it now. We'll be out by the groups so it's up to Juve to put in a decent showing.
Italy could easily slip behind France at the rate things are going
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Aug 29 2012, 11:24 AM
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So typical Udinese. Fight all season long, then sell most of their squad and fail to make the CL. Now they'll play a B-squad in the Europa. This is why I prefer Lazio, Roma or Napoli finishing ahead of them.
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Aug 29 2012, 01:32 PM
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QUOTE (amancik @ Aug 29 2012, 01:25 PM)  Milan Manchester City Paris Saint German Malaga
How about that?
or
Milan Sporting Braga Dinamo Zagabria FC Nords With our luck, we'll get the first one (IMG: style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) Man U will get the second since they always get the easy draws
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Aug 29 2012, 01:58 PM
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QUOTE (amancik @ Aug 29 2012, 03:25 PM)  Milan Manchester City Paris Saint German Malaga
How about that?
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Milan Sporting Braga Dinamo Zagabria FC Nords YEEEESSSSSSSS!! Ever since Milan eliminated my home team some years ago in a CL qualification tie I've been longing for another chance to wear my Milan shirt in my home town with a special reason (IMG: style_emoticons/default/devil.gif)
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Aug 29 2012, 03:17 PM
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I don't think we put in that much money into the club to be honest. Our matchday income is incredibly tiny.
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Aug 29 2012, 03:23 PM
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QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Aug 29 2012, 08:05 PM)  I don't they're comparable to Milan either. They averaged 15,000 fans in a season where they finished top 3. Not many outside of Italy will have even heard of them, they have to sell to stay alive pretty much. Milan have regular CL income, a big worldwide fanbase and an average attendance over 3 times as big. Udinese fans can't really complain since they don't put much money into the club and still get to see a good team. Milan fans put lots of money in the club and get **** back. +1. (IMG: style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif) Love them or hate them, Udinese has one of the better youth and scouting setup. And it's there for one reason alone. Unearthing and snapping up good players with the intent to sell them to bigger clubs. Farming at it's best. Or worst. And oh, can't really say I care for them, they are free to do whatever their heart desires.
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Aug 29 2012, 03:27 PM
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45 k fans, but they pay much less in Italy than for example in England or Germany for a match day ticket. The San Siro has pretty low ticket prices.
Milan shirts are a good point. I'll go so far as to say we might even be top in Italy, but as I've been trying to explain for sometime now, top in Italy is still way off the heavy hitter range.
But yes, I understand here the context is with Udinese. No question.
Udinese's model is pretty unique in Italy.
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Aug 29 2012, 03:30 PM
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QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Aug 29 2012, 04:27 PM)  45 k fans, but they pay much less in Italy than for example in England or Germany for a match day ticket. The San Siro has pretty low ticket prices.
Milan shirts are a good point. I'll go so far as to say we might even be top in Italy, but as I've been trying to explain for sometime now, top in Italy is still way off the heavy hitter range.
But yes, I understand here the context is with Udinese. No question.
Udinese's model is pretty unique in Italy. Yeah, my point was as a comparison with Udinese regarding finances/player sales. Of course in comparison with similar stature sides in other leagues, Milan have a far lower income. We really do need to look at getting our own stadium. (IMG: style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
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Aug 29 2012, 03:36 PM
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Well Udinese's model is to have probably THE best South American scouting system in Europe, while making sure that moving players on for a profit keeps them going.
They run a risk of course, of being priced out. But so far it has been successful.
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Aug 29 2012, 03:57 PM
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QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Aug 29 2012, 05:17 PM)  I don't think we put in that much money into the club to be honest. Our matchday income is incredibly tiny. Yeah, right (IMG: style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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Aug 29 2012, 09:56 PM
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QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Aug 29 2012, 10:37 PM)  Is Juventus Turin their official club name? I never knew that if true. No, Germans call them by this name. Their founding name is Sport Club Juventus, but F. C. Juventus nowadays. It has something to do with their crooked past, present and future management(s) (IMG: style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) Poor Gladbach, almost got it right. What a waist de Jong is.
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Aug 29 2012, 10:26 PM
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It does. Mostly because the next chance will most probably occur in about...10-15 years.
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Aug 29 2012, 10:47 PM
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QUOTE (X-Offender @ Aug 30 2012, 12:32 AM)  Why do you care? Gladbach fan? Well, they've really deserved it. Last season they played so good and now all the effort was virtually for nothing.
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Aug 29 2012, 11:33 PM
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There are some huge teams in those 3 pots. Hope we'll avoid all of them because I can't see is doing even decently against the likes of PSG, City, Dortmund, even Valencia FFS
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Aug 30 2012, 12:28 AM
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QUOTE (han2503 @ Aug 30 2012, 01:33 AM)  There are some huge teams in those 3 pots. Hope we'll avoid all of them because I can't see is doing even decently against the likes of PSG, City, Dortmund, even Valencia FFS I don't know about City, but the recent form PSG shows isn't a good sign. Against Dortmund and Valencia...I think we have a fighting chance. Not that we would be the favorites, but anyway - decently we sure can do.
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Aug 30 2012, 12:13 PM
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Montpellier? Oh we can take on them, I've watched almost every of their matches - and they've managed to lose them all.
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Aug 30 2012, 04:00 PM
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QUOTE (X-Offender @ Aug 30 2012, 05:37 PM)  I thought the draw was tomorrow. Me too. Just realized the change. It usually was on Friday?
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Aug 30 2012, 05:16 PM
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Watch us get City
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Aug 30 2012, 05:19 PM
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QUOTE (servbot @ Aug 30 2012, 05:18 PM)  We're gonna get PSG for the storylines. Book it. Oh yeah PSG in pot 2 right. Thought that was City's pot. Got mixed up there.
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Aug 30 2012, 05:19 PM
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Oh so I was right. Man City with REAL (IMG: style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) Phew
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Aug 30 2012, 05:20 PM
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Now that will be something great to watch
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Aug 30 2012, 05:20 PM
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So Milan in group C with Zenith so far. Not bad. We avoided City in the last moment.
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Aug 30 2012, 05:20 PM
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Zenit....
Hmm, not too rough, but won't be easy
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Aug 30 2012, 05:21 PM
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Btw, what did I say about Man U always getting the easiest of draws? Already got the easiest pick of the pot
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Aug 30 2012, 05:21 PM
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After George Weah, Ruud Gullit. Milan legends night (IMG: style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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Aug 30 2012, 05:21 PM
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Come on Ruud, be kind to your former employers
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Aug 30 2012, 05:22 PM
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QUOTE (han2503 @ Aug 30 2012, 07:20 PM)  Zenit....
Hmm, not too rough, but won't be easy Ohhh goodness gracious! It's a good pick, don't be so hard. It won't be easy, no team in pot 2 should be easy. But it's a good draw. QUOTE (han2503 @ Aug 30 2012, 07:21 PM)  Btw, what did I say about Man U always getting the easiest of draws? Already got the easiest pick of the pot That's almost a fact.
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Aug 30 2012, 05:26 PM
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QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Aug 30 2012, 05:22 PM)  Ohhh goodness gracious! It's a good pick, don't be so hard. It won't be easy, no team in pot 2 should be easy. But it's a good draw. Well like kurt said, it's an eastern European team and they're not too bad as well. I just hope that we won't make a meal of it if the draw is kind to us. Getting first place in it is imperative for any hopes beyond last 16
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Aug 30 2012, 05:27 PM
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YESSS!! Thanks Ruud!
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Aug 30 2012, 05:27 PM
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Anderlecth, good good...
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Aug 30 2012, 05:28 PM
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QUOTE (han2503 @ Aug 30 2012, 07:26 PM)  Well like kurt said, it's an eastern European team and they're not too bad as well.
I just hope that we won't make a meal of it if the draw is kind to us. Getting first place in it is imperative for any hopes beyond last 16 Always the negative possibilities on sight. Spoken like a true realist (IMG: style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)
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Aug 30 2012, 05:28 PM
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PSG in a relatively nuetral group...
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Aug 30 2012, 05:30 PM
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Ajax with Real and City. Damn! would have been fun to see Juve sweating it out in that one
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Aug 30 2012, 05:30 PM
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Juve with Chelsea and Shakhtar is a much tougher draw then ours. I hope Juve can get to the next stage, for Italian footballs sake and for the title run as well.
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Aug 30 2012, 05:31 PM
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QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Aug 30 2012, 05:30 PM)  Juve with Chelsea and Shakhtar is a much tougher draw then ours. I hope Juve can get to the next stage, for Italian footballs sake and for the title run as well. You really think we'll be in the title run?
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Aug 30 2012, 05:31 PM
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QUOTE (han2503 @ Aug 30 2012, 07:30 PM)  Ajax with Real and City. Damn! would have been fun to see Juve sweating it out in that one No, no, no - we must support Juve on this one, like you always say we have to be for Inter in Europe (IMG: style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
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Aug 30 2012, 05:36 PM
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PSG given a golden ticket
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Aug 30 2012, 05:39 PM
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Malaga...
Good draw
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