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Serie A - Week 9 - Milan - Parma, Date: 26/10/11 Time: 20:45 CET |
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Oct 23 2011, 07:58 PM
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Onwards and upwards. A must win game for the 3 points. The top teams are playing each other this round, so this should be a big chance to get in the top 3
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Oct 24 2011, 03:26 PM
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Let's hope we can start this match with a positive mindset and planned lineup.
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Oct 24 2011, 06:05 PM
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Win! We have to win...Parma are not in a good moment right now. Win...and then in the winter land Giovinco and Jovetic... (IMG: style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
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Oct 25 2011, 04:39 PM
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Ibrahimovic needs to net a brace in this game, he hasnt been himself of late. I was expecting him to be on top form against lecce but he was to an extent - non existent
Forza Milan
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Oct 25 2011, 06:25 PM
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Abbiati, Roma, Abate, Antonini, Bonera, Mexes, Taiwo, Thiago Silva, Zambrotta, Yepes, Ambrosini, Aquilani, Boateng, Emanuelson, Nocerino, Van Bommel, Cassano, El-Shaarawy, Ibrahimovic, Robinho
Silva is back, Nesta will get a rest.
Might be also a good idea to rest MvB and Casano before Roma. They have been playing non-stop.
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Oct 25 2011, 07:02 PM
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Indeed, they need rest. Somehow I doubt they'll get it.
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Oct 25 2011, 07:05 PM
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Agreed. I'd really like to see something along these lines Abate--Thiago--Mexes-Taiwo Aqui--Nocerino--Boateng El Shaa Ibra--Robs Cassano and VB have been playing non-stop, they need a rest
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Oct 25 2011, 07:24 PM
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We'll play like this probably: Abate--Thiago--Mexes-Taiwo Aqui--Ambrosini--Nocerino Boateng Ibra--Robinho Allegri said he will rest MVB,and will play a Boateng-Ibra-Cassano/Robinho trio. I like your formation much better though (IMG: style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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Oct 25 2011, 07:27 PM
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It was clear that Ambrosini isn't fit and prepared to start a match, or even feature in one. If Allegri starts with Ambro, I'll really have to question his sanity.
What's the status of Pippo and Seedorf?
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Oct 26 2011, 08:58 AM
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QUOTE (Jack Bauer @ Oct 26 2011, 05:04 AM)  Allegri confirmed that MvB won't be playing from the start. I don't know about you guys, but when it comes to rest, a player shouldn't be starting. (IMG: style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) Period. Give the player a full time off, enjoy themselves, get the fatigue out of their system. Unless of course, there are very rare circumstances. I mean, even if MvB plays the last 30 minutes, it's not much of a rest for the match in Roma.
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Oct 26 2011, 11:48 AM
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According o mediaset Ambro is starting (IMG: style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) Like I said, he never learns. And as Filippo likes to say, 1 step forward, 2 steps back Milan (4-3-1-2): Abbiati; Abate, T.Silva, Yepes, Antonini; Aquilani, Ambrosini, Nocerino; Boateng; Ibrahimovic, Robinho
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Oct 26 2011, 12:13 PM
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It's funny how there are people who wants Van Bommel to be rested AND act like Allegri is a complete idiot for playing Ambrosini instead. Seedorf is out injured (and that Calvano kid is too IIRC), Strasser is out loaned, Nocerino and Aquilani are no anchors. You make it impossible for Allegri this time, really. It either has to be Ambrosini or Thiago Silva in front of the defense, since Van Bommel really should be rested. QUOTE Milan (4-3-1-2): Abbiati; Abate, T.Silva, Yepes, Antonini; Aquilani, Ambrosini, Nocerino; Boateng; Ibrahimovic, Robinho I would play Taiwo instead of Antonini, rest I agree with. Mexes seems not ready, and Yepes is a good defender and will preform well when playing along Thiago Silva. So that means Bonera if you choose Thiago Silva as anchor, also far from ideal. With Yepes and Thiago Silva we will have a good central pairing, and Ambrosini this time will play as anchor and not as wide-central mid along Van Bommel in the same midfield. It's much better this way, and there's simply a lack for other options. Ambrosini is known to be poor his first game after returning, and especially as wide-central mid (not his best position) next to a poor Van Bommel (tired) (making midfield too slow*, simply has fail waiting for it) it's tough then. Still I have little hope for him this season, but today I see no other options than starting him. We can always make a sub during the game. (*and a huge lack of creativity)
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Oct 26 2011, 01:32 PM
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QUOTE (CHU-LIP @ Oct 26 2011, 12:13 PM)  It's funny how there are people who wants Van Bommel to be rested AND act like Allegri is a complete idiot for playing Ambrosini instead. Seedorf is out injured (and that Calvano kid is too IIRC), Strasser is out loaned, Nocerino and Aquilani are no anchors. You make it impossible for Allegri this time, really.
It either has to be Ambrosini or Thiago Silva in front of the defense, since Van Bommel really should be rested.
I would play Taiwo instead of Antonini, rest I agree with. Mexes seems not ready, and Yepes is a good defender and will preform well when playing along Thiago Silva. So that means Bonera if you choose Thiago Silva as anchor, also far from ideal. With Yepes and Thiago Silva we will have a good central pairing, and Ambrosini this time will play as anchor and not as wide-central mid along Van Bommel in the same midfield. It's much better this way, and there's simply a lack for other options. Ambrosini is known to be poor his first game after returning, and especially as wide-central mid (not his best position) next to a poor Van Bommel (tired) (making midfield too slow*, simply has fail waiting for it) it's tough then. Still I have little hope for him this season, but today I see no other options than starting him. We can always make a sub during the game. (*and a huge lack of creativity) Ambrosini was appaling on Sunday, injury or not, he shouldn't be playing, the position might have effected him slightly, but it cannot be excuse for such a terrible showing, the lunging at everythig in sight, horrible passing, etc. That had nothing to do with his position, and more to do with how terrible he's been this season when he has played. He just shouldn't be anywhere near the pitch. We can easily play without an anchor, just like we did throughout the Carlo era (Pirlo was not an anchor) Just put in Nocerino as a destroyer, muve Boateng back to provide energy and play Aqui to create and move the ball. Playing Ambro will be a mistake, and Allegri will once again be proved wrong when Ambro or antonini commit another f*** up just like they did on Sunday. As for Yepes, I don't think he should be playing this one. He made a horrible mistake on Sunday and was terrible overall, the goal was crucial but should be covering up such a shocking performance either. Mexes is a top class defender, and getting him match fit and in form should be top priority. We absolutely need Mexes to be in good condition, Nesta cannot handle it anymore, and playing Bonera and Yepes won't amount to anything aside from the occasional mistake
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Oct 26 2011, 06:19 PM
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QUOTE (Dracoris @ Oct 26 2011, 01:54 PM)  You have to put Ambrosini there. You guys act like you expect Allegri to just change his system which he has proved time and time again he's probably not going to do that. If memory serves me correctly, Ambrosini put in his best efforts at that position last year. Allegri does some pretty stupid things sometimes (Like starting Ambro on the right) but he's not nearly the Serie C coach you guys make him out to be. He's on the Ballon d' Or shortlist for goodness sake. It's not completely changing the system, it's tweaking it to adjust to the players you have available. Ambro last season was average, and was injured for half of it. His last really good season was under Leo, 2 seasons ago. At his age that seems more like a decade ago then just 2 seasons. Here's the latest predicted line-up Milan (4-3-1-2): Abbiati; Abate, Bonera, T.Silva, Taiwo; Aquilani, Ambrosini, Nocerino; Boateng; Ibrahimovic, CassanoThat says it all in regards to his smarts (IMG: style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
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Oct 26 2011, 06:59 PM
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MILAN: Abbiati, Abate, Bonera (IMG: style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) (IMG: style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) , Thiago Silva, Taiwo, Aquilani, Ambrosini, Nocerino, Boateng, Ibrahimovic, Cassano. PARMA: Mirante, Zaccardo, Paletta, Feltscher, Gobbi, Valiani, Morrone, Nwankwo, Modesto, Giovinco, Valdes.
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Oct 26 2011, 07:10 PM
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QUOTE (han2503 @ Oct 26 2011, 01:19 PM)  Milan (4-3-1-2): Abbiati; Abate, Bonera, T.Silva, Taiwo; Aquilani, Ambrosini, Nocerino; Boateng; Ibrahimovic, CassanoThat says it all in regards to his smarts (IMG: style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) I see no real problem with Cassano being in the starting line up other than it being presumed he has accumulated fatigue. The case of the other two are more along the lines of they are no longer starting material or worse 'no longer Milan worthy.'
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Oct 26 2011, 07:35 PM
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QUOTE (TriniKing_CE @ Oct 26 2011, 07:10 PM)  I see no real problem with Cassano being in the starting line up other than it being presumed he has accumulated fatigue.
The case of the other two are more along the lines of they are no longer starting material or worse 'no longer Milan worthy.' Cassano has been playing non-stop for both club and country since August. He deserved a breather, especially when you have someone like Robinho on the bench The other 2 are just ridiculous decisions
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Oct 26 2011, 07:44 PM
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Well, let's see what happens.
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Oct 26 2011, 07:52 PM
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Very lathargic so far
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Oct 26 2011, 08:14 PM
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Oct 26 2011, 08:16 PM
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Ambro needs to come off pronto. Bring Robinho on instead. He isn't doing sh!t aside from being emberassed by Giovinco
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Oct 26 2011, 08:16 PM
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NOCERINOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO (IMG: style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) 2-0
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Oct 26 2011, 08:17 PM
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Have we ever scored this many long range goals in one season? (IMG: style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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Oct 26 2011, 08:22 PM
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QUOTE (Danny @ Oct 26 2011, 08:19 PM)  Is it just me or are we hitting form all of a sudden?
I still can't quite believe we're in 7th place after the start we've had.
We might not be out of the Scudetto after all. We've been pretty bad so far this half imo, just no ideas, nothing. But some great work from Ibra and a wonder striker have turned it for us
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Oct 26 2011, 08:32 PM
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Milan lead 2-0, yet maybe one sole good attack made. And god how painfully mediocre Aquilani is.
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Oct 26 2011, 08:33 PM
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Ht. I think they need to pick it up in the second half. It's just very blah atm, and it's been that way all 45 minutes. Nocerino's goals have been isolated incedents in a so far average performance
I still cannot believe that the decent and still trust-worthy Ambro of last season has been reduced to this. Completely invisible except for the moments when he's losing the ball or being made a fool of. Boateng has been dropping into that area to do his work
Robinho for Ambro, move Boateng back and we might really see some good stuff in the second half
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Oct 26 2011, 08:37 PM
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QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Oct 26 2011, 08:32 PM)  Milan lead 2-0, yet maybe one sole good attack made. And god how painfully mediocre Aquilani is. I don't get how you can criticise him when Aqui has mostly been owrking his @ss off to clean up after Ambro. He's been reduced to sweeping the ball to get us back into possession for most of the game
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Oct 26 2011, 08:50 PM
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QUOTE (han2503 @ Oct 26 2011, 09:37 PM)  I don't get how you can criticise him when Aqui has mostly been owrking his @ss off to clean up after Ambro. He's been reduced to sweeping the ball to get us back into possession for most of the game Work is one side, but I expect more creativity and more good passes from a player of his position, and Ambro can't be the one to blame for the lack of Aqui's accuracy. And yes, Ibra looks without any motivation.
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Oct 26 2011, 09:05 PM
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Do we have a striker on our bench? A proper one, not Robinho; Ibra has to go off, he just isn't in the mood for doing anything.
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Oct 26 2011, 09:13 PM
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Cassano should have scored that. Too much intricate work ruined the chance
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Oct 26 2011, 09:13 PM
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Urby for Aqui
Why not Robinho for Ambro or Cassano???
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Oct 26 2011, 09:15 PM
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IBRAAAAAAAAA
That's why you don't take him off!!!!
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Oct 26 2011, 09:15 PM
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Why is Cassano having trouble with his finish lately. He seems to be more comfortable searching an extra pass rather then shoot. The old Cassano would have just fired straight.
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Oct 26 2011, 09:16 PM
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Robs on Ibra off
Should have been for Cassano who needs some form of rest at this point
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Oct 26 2011, 09:19 PM
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3-1
What were they doing with that pass though??
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Oct 26 2011, 09:20 PM
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...and that's why Taiwo isn't played in important matches. Not that Antonini is any better...
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Oct 26 2011, 09:25 PM
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QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Oct 26 2011, 09:20 PM)  ...and that's why Taiwo isn't played in important matches. Not that Antonini is any better... I don't get why he waited so much to run at the ball, the pass was clearly too short. Whoever made that pass (don't remember who) is also at fault imo
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Oct 26 2011, 09:32 PM
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lol, how is Ambro not on a yellow in this game, really amazing. If VB did half the sh!t Ambro did today, he'd be sent off for sure
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Oct 26 2011, 09:33 PM
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NOCERINOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO Hattrick (IMG: style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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Oct 26 2011, 09:35 PM
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And Cassano with yet another assist. Can't believe people treated him as a surplus.
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Oct 26 2011, 09:37 PM
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2 points off the top of the table while still playing like sh!t. Not that bad...
But we seriously cannot play like this against Roma next Saturday. The players and Allegri need to get their acts together or we could be looking at another smacking like the ones against Juve and Napoli.
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Oct 26 2011, 09:39 PM
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QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Oct 26 2011, 09:35 PM)  And Cassano with yet another assist. Can't believe people treated him as a surplus. Yep, to think some wanted him out during the summer. What would we have done without him when he was the only fit striker? His assists are all great, but he needs to be more greedy at times, as well as stop with the too intricite work. Just smash them when the oppostunity comes! He usually tries to make the pass or holds on to the ball a second or two longer and by then the opportunity is gone. Be selfish Cassano, you're a striker, it's allowed!
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Oct 26 2011, 09:50 PM
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Ambrosini performs better as an anchor,he wasn't that good,but wasn't the liabality he was against Lecce.He still came back from injury,let's not forget that.I see him as a good Van Bommel replacement against weak and middle class clubs. Nocerino was our hero for today from midfield (IMG: style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) .He was everywhere,his workrate is really impressive,just the player we needed,and could develop into one hell of a player. Boateng was not influential at all today which shows that we need a classic attacking midfield.We have no one for that position,literaly.Our midfield looks great,and with some good depth,finally! Thiago was his amazing self,owned everyone. Taiwo is improving,he has some sweet passes,and can be dangerous sometimes,but still needs confidence.His defense is also better than Antonini,and still much more room for improvement. Our defense needs stability,we're going out with an almost different back four every match.
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Oct 26 2011, 10:20 PM
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Great game. Top marks for everyone generally except Ambro, Taiwo and Abbiati. Even Allegri and Bonera were good (IMG: style_emoticons/default/cool.gif) Despite my criticism of Taiwo (who'd deserve a high 6 / low seven) he's improving and is already miles ahead of Anto. One Mistake in this game doesn't at all put him behind the mistake career of Anto. Also Taiwo's runs and pace gave us so much more width on the left it was really pleasing. Abate continues to improve incrementally. We would appreiate him more over the next 2~3 seasons. I can't criticize Cassano despite his relaxing instead of shooting because that's simply his style. If he were a different player he'd have had more goals and less assists. iBra was not playing his own high standards and a gift of a goal will again hide this fact. He's verrrrry show and looks utterly unmotivated. Yes I'm biased against him but I maintain that a higher calibre team would tear him apart playing like this. Nocerino was our man of the match. How one guy on R&B says that he's on par with Brocchi is beyond me. But I guess he's excused as a Pirlo fan (IMG: style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif) . Guy fought for every inch (no homo) of space and his technique isn't horrible for a guy mainly viewed as a blue collar player. I was soooo angry at Allegri for the snubbing (again) of El Sharaawry) but I'm not the one that just led the team to another great win. Actually my opinions on Allegri remain and I expect him to excel in these types of games vs. lesser opponents. However Allegri has MASSIVELY improved two main dimensions of our attack 1) Goals off of corners 2) Shots from outside by midfielders I really will have no basis for complaint if we keep playing like this consistently at all levels -i.e. vs big teams as well. Great game and FORZA Milan
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QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Oct 26 2011, 10:47 PM)  Unforunately didn't see the game. (IMG: style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) Was it a case of them being bad, or were we just very good? They were bad, we were bad. Nocerino really pulled out a great match though. We only had very isolated events where we actually did good, positive things on the ball. Most of the first half was the usual passing the ball around the defence and midfield with 0 penetration
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