[Milan Are Brilli...]

Taye Taiwo

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Full name: Taye Taiwo
Date of birth: April 16, 1985
Place of birth: Lagos, Nigeria
Height: 6 ft (1.83 m)
Position: Left Back
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[Jack Sparrow]

I've heard he's a bit of a wild cannon. A bit defensively suspect. Didac Villa and Taye Taiwo needs to be put on the Abate development programme, copyrighted by Tassotti.

[Rossoneri7]

I've heard he's a bit of a wild cannon. A bit defensively suspect. Didac Villa and Taye Taiwo needs to be put on the Abate development programme, copyrighted by Tassotti.

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[Milan Are Brilli...]

Yeah, you see the vast improvement in Abate, it wasn't long ago we were all talking about him like he was Merkel. Possibly the most improved player this season? I'd say so.

Hopefully Taiwo will offer us a bit more pace at full-back. Heard he can take a free-kick or two too, another option for that now Pirlo's no longer here.

[Bluesummers]

watch this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OUPWzNLzs0M (IMG:style_emoticons/default/devil.gif)



Taiwo:

Strenghts:

-strong physically, one of the strongest defenders in the world
-has one of the most powerful shots in the world. Compared to Adriano in terms of power.
-fast and fit.
-free kicks
-heading
-long distance shooter


weakness:

-positional
-too aggressive
-error prone
-doesn't have a quality cross
-loose marking
-decision making.

This post has been edited by Bluesummers: May 26 2011, 10:35 AM

[acid911]

Heard he can take a free-kick or two too, another option for that now Pirlo's no longer here.

Definitely. The guy shoots scorchers, great free kick option. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/king.gif) Another one would be Honda, but not sure why Milan did not move for that, the guy has all sorts of positives and could have been an ideal SS.

[Jack Sparrow]

Yeah, you see the vast improvement in Abate, it wasn't long ago we were all talking about him like he was Merkel. Possibly the most improved player this season? I'd say so.

Hopefully Taiwo will offer us a bit more pace at full-back. Heard he can take a free-kick or two too, another option for that now Pirlo's no longer here.

It's amazing. When I saw him(Abate) play last year, I mentioned even that he'd take 2 years to reach the level he's playing at NOW!! I actually thought we'd need to buy 2 new fullbacks.

I think it's a combination of his own drive to succeed at that position as well as the management's attitude to help him out.

[Zed.D]

I have no clue whatsoever how good he is so I can only say welcome and wish good luck to him!

[X-Offender]

I'd have preferred Cissokho over him, but since we signed him for free I can't really complain. He's certainly an improvement to Zambrotta and Antonini.

[X-Offender]

Oh, and here's hoping he takes the #2 jersey and not some random #85 BS. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

[Milan Are Brilli...]

Oh, and here's hoping he takes the #2 jersey and not some random #85 BS. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

I think he has the #2 jersey, I think.

[Zed.D]

^^
Couldn't agree more!!

[X-Offender]

I think he has the #2 jersey, I think.

He had #3 at Marseilles.

[Fillipo Simone]

weakness:

-positional
-too aggressive
-error prone
-doesn't have a quality cross
-loose marking
-decision making.

If those are really his weaknesses he's crap.

From what I hear (talked to some Marseille fans) he really isn't defensively reliable, but has the work rate of a Gattuso. Now, that could be a problem, because Abate is similar. I concur with all the statements above regarding Abate - he's really shown up, but he still makes some dangerous defensive errors. Same goes to Taiwo. On the other hand, both are offensive, but lack the finesse of a Serginho. That could turn into a problem.

Thank god, we have Zambrotta here who'll certainly help out.

[X-Offender]

Let's watch him in action before we jump to conclusions, OK? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

[CHU-LIP]

His flaws can easily be improved by good tutor from Nesta, Tasotti (and Zambrotta?)

[d'Arc.LP]

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[X-Offender]

I hope he gets shirt #2.

[Kazdoodle]

I am pretty sure hes confirmed numero 2 this coming season pretty sure

[CHU-LIP]

I hope he gets shirt #2.

I find #2 weird for a left-back. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

[Fillipo Simone]

I don't follow you. The likes of Thomas Helveg, Christian Ziege, Winston Bogarde, Mauro Tassoti and Christian Panucci used to wear the Number 2. What's the problem?

[Kazdoodle]

I like odd numbers for positions. like when gallas had 10 for a CB or Number 5 for zidane in Midfield or 6 for Tuncay in Wolfsburg



This post has been edited by Kazdoodle: Jun 16 2011, 07:34 AM

[han2503]

I like odd numbers for positions. like when gallas had 10 for a CB or Number 5 for zidane in Midfield or 6 for Tuncay in Wolfsburg

Personally I can't stand the use of large numbers, 99, 70, etc for first team players

[Fillipo Simone]

Personally I can't stand the use of large numbers, 99, 70, etc for first team players

+1 Indeed. It's nothing but stupid. Remember Zamorano? That was also stupid...

[X-Offender]

Personally I can't stand the use of large numbers, 99, 70, etc for first team players

That's my problem as well.

[Kazdoodle]

I like the large numbers if they arent like 71,49,58,46. more so like 88,99,45,44,77
And i loved the 1+8 Of zamorano. It was more a number you remember like down the seasons. if zamorano was just 18 then......not like you would remember much

This post has been edited by Kazdoodle: Jun 16 2011, 12:34 PM

[Fillipo Simone]

Well, for example 22 or 21 were not so special numbers before Andy and Ricky came along.

[acid911]

So very true, Fillipo. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Well I don't really have too much of a problem with really larger numbers, heck my second most-favorite player had to wear 99 here. But anything under 23 is pretty much the norm. For sure-fire starters, I like to see numbers 1-11, or something like that in our case (because of the number 3 and 6 being retired).

Still, K22 and P21 weren't too shabby as far as shirt numbers go!

[han2503]

20s I can handle, but once you go past 30 then it gets irritating unless it's a youth player

[mishie]

back on the subject....i firmly believe that Taiwo won't be a regular starter...i think the LB slot will go to Urby esp after reading what Allegri said about Urby and the fact the Mr.X is a left sided midfielder so it rules Urby out of that position. I think because he was free they got him he will be used as cover and TIM games but thats it.

[X-Offender]

back on the subject....i firmly believe that Taiwo won't be a regular starter...i think the LB slot will go to Urby esp after reading what Allegri said about Urby and the fact the Mr.X is a left sided midfielder so it rules Urby out of that position. I think because he was free they got him he will be used as cover and TIM games but thats it.

I disagree. I don't think Allegri has much consideration for Urby, especially as a fullback. We wanted to include him in the Fabregas deal after all, supposedly. Taiwo will be the regular starter, in my opinion.

This post has been edited by X-Offender: Jun 17 2011, 08:32 PM

[Fillipo Simone]

Indeed. I don't think Allegri has a plan for Urby at all. As a fullback certainly not.

[mishie]

I disagree. I don't think Allegri has much consideration for Urby, especially as a fullback. We wanted to include him in the Fabregas deal after all, supposedly. Taiwo will be the regular starter, in my opinion.

of course you disagree...seems everyone does with what i say now a days (IMG:style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

"He's one of those players who really needed to get used to things here, but the work that he did this year will pay off next season. We'll be counting on him", was what coach Massimiliano Allegri had to say at the end of last March in the Milan Channel studios.

[CHU-LIP]

of course you disagree...seems everyone does with what i say now a days (IMG:style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

That quote doesn't say anything about Furby playing as left-back. Furby won't be our starting left-back, because he is pretty bad at that. All the season Ajax had Furby, they had a major left-back problem. How is that possible if Furby is a good left-bacK? Well, because he isn't. It's for a reason Furby moved to left-wing, and a right-footed small Anita played left-back isntead who now is used as a midfielder. Anywho, bottomline being, Furby is a pretty bad left-back. I've seen him play as left-back a lot of times, and me and many others got very frustrated of that.

How often have you seen him as left-back?

Emanuelson is a midfielder, not a defender. A nice backup for midfield, that's all.

[mishie]

That quote doesn't say anything about Furby playing as left-back. Furby won't be our starting left-back, because he is pretty bad at that. All the season Ajax had Furby, they had a major left-back problem. How is that possible if Furby is a good left-bacK? Well, because he isn't. It's for a reason Furby moved to left-wing, and a right-footed small Anita played left-back isntead who now is used as a midfielder. Anywho, bottomline being, Furby is a pretty bad left-back. I've seen him play as left-back a lot of times, and me and many others got very frustrated of that.

How often have you seen him as left-back?

Emanuelson is a midfielder, not a defender. A nice backup for midfield, that's all.

i've seen him play left back many times....Blind is now playing left back for Ajax and he's not a natural there either so that says nothing either. the quote wasn't meant to say were he'd be playing i was just using it to say he'll be used more next season as i didn't see him in midfield i was just guessing he'd be used there

just a opinion thought i was allowed one sorry

[CHU-LIP]

i've seen him play left back many times....Blind is now playing left back for Ajax and he's not a natural there either so that says nothing either. the quote wasn't meant to say were he'd be playing i was just using it to say he'll be used more next season as i didn't see him in midfield i was just guessing he'd be used there

just a opinion thought i was allowed one sorry

No, Boilesen is playing as left-back now...... (Blind is meh anyway)

And who was talking about natural positions? And Blind not a natural left-back? Really?

I meant with saying Emanuelsin is a midfielder, not a defender, that he simply sucks in defender/left-back..

This post has been edited by CHU-LIP: Jun 17 2011, 09:22 PM

[mishie]

not sure what all the ?????? is about but hey you young kids have your own way of making a point...anyways time will tell who will be our left back ??????? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

[CHU-LIP]

not sure what all the ?????? is about but hey you young kids have your own way of making a point...anyways time will tell who will be our left back ??????? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

Not appreciated.

Stop with this trolling.

This post has been edited by CHU-LIP: Jun 17 2011, 09:44 PM

[mishie]

Not appreciated.

Stop with this trolling.

was trying to end the conversation on a light hearted note...sorry if my sense of humour doesn't come across well or you don't understand it either way before you edited your post i found that offensive.

[Fillipo Simone]

Although I agree on seeing Emanuelson rather as a midfielder, this reasoning of yours Chu is a bit too much simplified for my taste:

Furby won't be our starting left-back, because he is pretty bad at that. All the season Ajax had Furby, they had a major left-back problem. How is that possible if Furby is a good left-bacK? Well, because he isn't.

[X-Offender]

"He's one of those players who really needed to get used to things here, but the work that he did this year will pay off next season. We'll be counting on him", was what coach Massimiliano Allegri had to say at the end of last March in the Milan Channel studios.

To be honest, he sounds more like he's trying to patronize Emanuelson than putting blind faith on him.

[mishie]

To be honest, he sounds more like he's trying to patronize Emanuelson than putting blind faith on him.

oh yeah thats the sort of thing coaches do to there players isn't it?

[X-Offender]

oh yeah thats the sort of thing coaches do to there players isn't it?

Haha, perhaps I should have used another word there. Not patronize as in a condescending manner, but simply to defend him from the critics after a not-exactly-stellar debut with Milan.

[Fillipo Simone]

Critics? I didn't catch up any critics on Emanuelso. Well, what was he supposed to do?

[X-Offender]

Critics? I didn't catch up any critics on Emanuelso. Well, what was he supposed to do?

I have. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

[TriniKing_CE]

Haha

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[CrazyMilanFan]

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...

BOT (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

[Dracoris]

Go Go Bot Deleter.

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[X-Offender]

Taiwo's agent says that the player is recovering much faster than initially presumed, and that it's probable he might be available against Barcelona.

Link

Fingers crossed!

[han2503]

Taiwo's agent says that the player is recovering much faster than initially presumed, and that it's probable he might be available against Barcelona.

Link

Fingers crossed!

hmm, not sure I want to see him coming up against Messi and the like (IMG:style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif)

Still hasn't convinced me defensively

[mishie]

me neither...still prefer someone else there (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

[X-Offender]

He's the best solution for leftback we have. He fared well against Robben. Zambrotta and Antonini would get eaten alive by Messi.

[William405]

and by Robben. Tottaly agreed x-off

[Fillipo Simone]

Sorry, if you ask me Zambrotta is better. Judging on a unimportant friendly maybe Taiwo was good and even against Robben, but still...

[X-Offender]

Zambrotta is 34 Fillippo, are you sure he has the strength left to face Messi? I'm not saying Taiwo is the next best thing, but he's certainly more reliable than Zambro and Antonini. The guy's had a very successful career at Marseilles, and has been picked for "Ligue 1 Team of the Year" three times, in 2008, 2009 and finally in 2011.

[Fillipo Simone]

Zambrotta is 34 Fillippo, are you sure he has the strength left to face Messi? I'm not saying Taiwo is the next best thing, but he's certainly more reliable than Zambro and Antonini. The guy's had a very successful career at Marseilles, and has been picked for "Ligue 1 Team of the Year" three times, in 2008, 2009 and finally in 2011.

Again; Zambrotta is more reliable IMO. 34 or 24, Taiwo never ever will reach Zambro's level. But yes, it could get tricky when it comes to holding down Messi, I see where you're coming from. In general speaking, Zambro is better if you ask me.

And Antonini,...please...don't mention him.

[Dracoris]

Taiwo could throw Messi like a baseball.




I think it might be worth the red card.

This post has been edited by Dracoris: Aug 30 2011, 04:25 AM

[milanbuf88]

Again; Zambrotta is more reliable IMO. 34 or 24, Taiwo never ever will reach Zambro's level. But yes, it could get tricky when it comes to holding down Messi, I see where you're coming from. In general speaking, Zambro is better if you ask me.

And Antonini,...please...don't mention him.

Come on Fillipo, that is straight up garbage. I know you like old players past their prime, especially when they are Italian, but that is taking it too far. None of us have a crystal ball so let's not pretend like we do. He is a little raw defensively but he is young and positional sense can be taught. One thing is for certain, he far far stronger than Zambro and has an incredibly powerful shot. I for one love his potential and think he'll do well for us once he has time to integrate.

[kurtsimonw]

26 isn't exactly young. If he hasn't learned how to defend properly now then I don't see much changing.

[Dracoris]

26 isn't exactly young. If he hasn't learned how to defend properly now then I don't see much changing.

Probably true, though if there is any place it can happen, its Milan.


I don't think he's been THAT bad defensively.

[X-Offender]

Zambrotta is better in terms of experience, but on a one-on-one with Messi he'd be eaten alive. Taiwo is much faster and stronger physically, so he stands a better chance. Then again, I can't see how you people say he's been unimpressive considering he's played only a few friendly games. No-one is at their peak in pre-season. We must wait for things to get serious before we jump to any conclusions.

[Fillipo Simone]

Well I saw him play many times for Nigeria and Marseille. So, I pretty much have a solid vision of his skills. He's defensively very unreliable, his shot is powerful but so was Jankulovskis prior to joining Milan.

And thanks for saying my opinion is garbage, I feel enlightened.

[X-Offender]

Taiwo interview before Napoli game

Good luck in understanding his English. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

[X-Offender]

Taiwo watches Serie A DVDs

AC Milan’s Taye Taiwo has revealed he’s trying to adapt to Serie A by watching DVDs of the Italian championship.

The left-back joined the Rossoneri in the summer from Marseille, but he’s been used sparingly so far by boss Massimiliano Allegri.

“Serie A is very difficult,” the defender told Milan Channel. “I’m looking to improve my knowledge about the Italian game by watching DVDs.

“In Europe, there is a different kind of game which is being played and I’m more familiar with that style.”

Taiwo did appear in midweek for the San Siro giants, though; as he started and finished the 2-0 Champions League win over BATE Borisov.

“I was finally able to put myself in the spotlight,” he continued. “I’m very happy.

Link

[X-Offender]

So, you guys reckon Taiwo's a lost cause by now? I must say, I give every right to Allegri for not playing him. He's been piss-poor in nearly every appearance. Such a shame, I had really high expectations for him.

[drucurl]

So, you guys reckon Taiwo's a lost cause by now? I must say, I give every right to Allegri for not playing him. He's been piss-poor in nearly every appearance. Such a shame, I had really high expectations for him.

Piss poor is a bit strong. Also with that few appearances nobody is justified in being sold. I want him to get some good runs out even if it's just Copa Italia before an assessment can be made.

[Fillipo Simone]

So, you guys reckon Taiwo's a lost cause by now? I must say, I give every right to Allegri for not playing him. He's been piss-poor in nearly every appearance. Such a shame, I had really high expectations for him.

Hate to say it to you, but I saw it coming.

[kurtsimonw]

Nowhere near good enough.

[han2503]

I don't really feel as if he's been given a fair chance, Antonini messes up nearly every time he steps onto the pitch yet he's picked again without any hesitation on Allegri's part.

Unlike Antonini who has been with us for a while now, and can no longer be considered young since the guy is pushing 28 these days (I think some forget this fact), Taiwo is a player coming from a different team, different league and doesn't speak the language. Yet he's only been given a handful of opportunities. Sure he's messed up but the same could be said of Antonini and he doesn't have all these factors going against him.

A lot including myself thought Abate was a lost cause before last season, yet look how he's turned out. To make a decision in a mere couple of months is pre-mature on Allegri's part. I personally think it's better that we look somewhere else simply because I know that Allegri has made up his mind on Taiwo, so why drag it out saying that he should be given a chance when I know for a fact that Allegri will not grant that

[Fillipo Simone]

Yeah well...Milan rarely "click" with players coming from the French league. Desailly and Papin may be just exemptions; think of Gourcuff and Dhorasoo, Ba, N'Gotty, Dugarry, etc.

I see Taiwo exactly in that way. He was offensively great for Marseille, but never had the defensive qualities needed for a Milan fullback. Abate proved me wrong and showed that one might polish out some things with hard work, determination and help of a classy fullback (Tassotti), yet he was/is younger. Taiwo is a finished product.

And I don't need more to see what I already know and knew - he's simply defensively speaking not up to the task for Milan. At Marseille, when most of his duties included running up and down, shooting and crossing, he was good. But Allegri does not have the guts Carletto had when he played Cafu and Serginho.

[X-Offender]

In that view, Emanuelson would be another option as well. But yeah, Allegri cares more about the defending than the attacking in general. Just consider that our trequartista is actually a CM. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

[Fillipo Simone]

Naah, I still can't believe Allegri fixed Emanuelson as a permanent AM sub solution. It is one of the things I'll never understand.

[X-Offender]

Like I said, our AM options are a CM and a LM. Go figure.

[X-Offender]

I think last night was the last opportunity to prove himself, and the guy miserably failed. Even De Sciglio played better, honestly. We must sell him in January (Werder and Galatasaray are interested) and sign a decent substitute, who can also play in Europe if possible.

[William405]

Yes,I agree he was that bad,and against who?!

Awful signing.

[kurtsimonw]

Antonini is easily the best left back at the club for me. That says more about Taiwo and Zambrotta than it does him.

[Fillipo Simone]

Zambrotta is miles better. Just because he wasn't great against Barcelona doesn't mean he's worse the Antonini.

[kurtsimonw]

Nah, I'd take Antonini over him every time. Zambrotta has been finished for a while.

[X-Offender]

Nah, I'd take Antonini over him every time. Zambrotta has been finished for a while.

I don't know. They're all awful, IMO.

This post has been edited by X-Offender: Dec 7 2011, 08:44 PM

[nuh]

i honestly think Taiwo deserves more time...just think about how poor evra was when he first joined united....taiwo will only get better if he gets more games not watching from the bench

[acid911]

I agree. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Let's give him an extended run for a full 4-6 weeks and see whether the guy improves. No point in testing him for a match every now and then, when he himself is fighting multiple battles (new league, new teammates, great expectations, so on and so forth). Give the guy until the summer, before offloading him.

Buying and selling a player within six months makes the club look bad, and speaks more about our scouts than the player himself - any player, not just Taiwo. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif) I mean, way to go spending money on a certified dud. Which I don't thin Taiwo is, at the time of this writing. Sure, he has had horrible matches, but still.

[X-Offender]

We got him for free. Our real objective was Cissokho, but Galliani can't say no to a free agent.

[acid911]

Agreed, but it begs the question why waste a player and give him salary to boot. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) It's best to stay away from deals like these (considering how Milan rolls in the market), and only bring in guys you have the utmost confidence in. Particularly in defensive positions, I mean only put those players in the radar who are good at the back.

Still, I stand by my notion that he should be let go only in the summer. Who knows what can happen in the winter.

[X-Offender]

It's not only that he's been bad, but the guy seems unmotivated in my eyes. A player that wants to impress his coach should run like a madman for the whole 90 minutes, trying to win every challenge and offer that something more which would gain him credibility and trust. I've simply not seen this in Taiwo. The guy looks timid and scared, as if he's already accepted his fate. Not cool in my book.

[mishie]

....i firmly believe that Taiwo won't be a regular starter... I think because he was free they got him he will be used as cover and TIM games but thats it.

i rest my case (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

[Fillipo Simone]

It's not only that he's been bad, but the guy seems unmotivated in my eyes. A player that wants to impress his coach should run like a madman for the whole 90 minutes, trying to win every challenge and offer that something more which would gain him credibility and trust. I've simply not seen this in Taiwo. The guy looks timid and scared, as if he's already accepted his fate. Not cool in my book.

I think your assessment is just wrong. Sure, someone can be all fired up and do 110% to prove the coach wrong, but not everyone reacts that way. I think Taiwo caved - he went from Marseilles and Ligue 1 top defender to Milan's standard fullback solution who "was great against Robben" to a surplus. It's pressuring him and it makes him fall over and over again.

[X-Offender]

OK, but someone with confidence in himself can get out of these situations. I mean, if you know you are good and people say otherwise, then you can easily prove them wrong. Has Taiwo ever given such impression? Of course there's a lot of pressure on him for the facts you stated, but he didn't suddenly find himself in these circumstances. He let himself gradually degrade by giving one poor performance after another, losing Allegri's trust in the process.

I had high hopes for the guy, but if he's that weak mentally, then we can already rest our case.

[Fillipo Simone]

You turned defending Allegri, and I turned defending Taiwo. What a twist! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

[X-Offender]

The world really is approaching its end. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

This post has been edited by X-Offender: Dec 10 2011, 05:00 AM

[han2503]

Antonini is easily the best left back at the club for me. That says more about Taiwo and Zambrotta than it does him.

WHAT??

Zambro on a single leg is better than Antonini!

He was bad against Barca? Imo he was our only defender who wasn't messing up everything and was decent. Even Thiago and Nesta were a mess in that one

[Fillipo Simone]

WHAT??

Zambro on a single leg is better than Antonini!


He was bad against Barca? Imo he was our only defender who wasn't messing up everything and was decent. Even Thiago and Nesta were a mess in that one

And even if this wasn't true...I mean, bad against Barcelona does not mean bad actually. Antonini would have been a disaster.

[han2503]

And even if this wasn't true...I mean, bad against Barcelona does not mean bad actually. Antonini would have been a disaster.

Try nuclear disaster.

Obviously one performance against Barca doesn't prove anything, but since it was mentioned I responded to it.

Antonini is nothing but a one hit wonder who was made to look good in the attacking department by Ronaldinho

[X-Offender]

Newcastle want Taiwo on loan.

Link

[Fillipo Simone]

No point in loaning him: it's either we try and try to integrate him, or ship him of for some cash.

[X-Offender]

No point in loaning him: it's either we try and try to integrate him, or ship him of for some cash.

Agreed.

[han2503]

If the coach doesn't have any faith in him then there is no point. What's really funny to me is that Allegri starts Antonini ahead of him (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

Imo that fact just overturns any reasoning on Allegri's part

[William405]

Well,Antonini hasn't been doing howlers,which is good (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

Also,if the player didn't earn Allegri's trust and didn't play well at all,what does it say about him?I wouldn't blame Allegri as much as I would blame Galliani.Does his defensive positioning as a fullback have to do with his integration with the team?I simply don't trust he's any good.

[acid911]

Somewhat true, but what happened to the good old notion of giving players a fair run? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) If we haven't given Allegri the benefit of the doubt when he had that horrendous (oh, I love this word) start in his first season (losses left and right and overall clueless displays), he'd probably be managing Parma or something similar now.

I'm not saying Taiwo is great or anything, I'm just saying give him 6-8 straight matches and let the world (media and fans) know how much he sucks. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) Who knows maybe he'll gain confidence, adjust and improve?! Who knows!?

[William405]

And risk getting slaughtered at his side?I mean his defensive positioning was terrible!Against who?Plezen...
Thanks,i'll stay with antonini.

[acid911]

Well sometimes you just have to bite the bullet. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/happy.gif) I can't see how much it could hurt for 3-4 matches, there are other players who will cover him nevertheless. I haven't see too much of the guy, but from what little I saw of Taiwo (before he came here), he did not seem a bad player. Susceptible defending, yes, but still.

And it's not like we haven't risked slaughter before - Seedorf, Bonera, Antonini and others played their parts. Who can forget the Udinese 4-4, among others. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif) Like I said a few days back, trying a player randomly for a few stretches here and there, and then discarding him (Taiwo is the number one guy at fault here, surely he is) within a span of few months does not reflect dandily on anyone. Neither Allegri, nor Galliani. Neither or scouts, and surely not on Taiwo.