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May 31 2009, 08:43 PM
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Forza Leonardo and good luck (IMG: style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) I'm happy he's teaming up with Galli (and Tassotti). hopefully we'll pay more attention to our youth players. Juve and Inter already have a couple of upcoming stars in Giovinco, De Ceglie, Marchisio, Balotelli, Stanton, etc. Paloschi aside, whose potential is doubted by some, we have no one at the moment.
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May 31 2009, 08:47 PM
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Oh, you should add Abate and Darmain, but I know,...both are uncertain and far from what Santon or Giovinco already are.
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May 31 2009, 10:20 PM
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Good luck! Please bring change!! (IMG: style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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Jun 1 2009, 12:05 AM
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QUOTE (mishie @ May 31 2009, 11:58 PM)  We won't know anything because he's never coached before..and this disrespect for Carlo is still going to continue even now he's left?? It seems so. I'm just curious how long it will take till Leo won't be hung.
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Jun 1 2009, 10:47 AM
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LOL @ Kurt! Much to the disappointment of some: QUOTE (Channel4) Leo has big plans
Monday 1 June, 2009
Newly installed Milan Coach Leonardo wants to strengthen his side with Emmanuel Adebayor and Michael Essien, according to Corriere dello Sport.
The 39-year-old former Brazil international yesterday replaced Carlo Ancelotti who announced he had agreed to terminate his contract with the Rossoneri.
Leonardo has followed the Fabio Capello route to the Milan bench, working for one of Silvio Berlusconi's companies before becoming a trainer.
According to Corriere dello Sport, Leonardo is prepared to overhaul the current squad both in terms of tactics and personnel.
His No 1 transfer target this summer is reportedly Adebayor, the 25-year-old Togo striker, who has flirted with Milan in recent weeks.
Adebayor famously compared Milan with Beyoncé Knowles, the R&B singer, to the disappointment of Arsenal manager Arsene Wenger.
Essien, the Chelsea midfielder, is also apparently on Milan's wanted list, although the prospect of him leaving Stamford Bridge is remote.
If they do join the Rossoneri this summer, they are likely to play in a 4-3-3 formation, which La Gazzetta dello Sport believe to be Leonardo's preferred style of play. I have always said, I don't think Adebayor is all that great but I'd gladly take him because I can't see us aiming higher than that. he's good enough, in other words.
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Jun 1 2009, 11:18 AM
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We need a striker. Kaka being our first scorer (even if many of his goals came from penalties) means we need one more up front IMO. How can we rely on Borriello?
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Jun 1 2009, 12:08 PM
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QUOTE Milan Coach Leonardo: Carlo Ancelotti Motivated Me To Take The Job(IMG: http://i.media.goal.com/g/49867_news.jpg) Leonardo has spoken of his delight after being unveiled as Milan's new coach on Monday, and he is ready to continue building as he works towards brining more success to the club. Milan have confirmed the former Brazil international has signed a two year deal which expires on June 30, 2011. Leonardo is hoping he can lead the club back to glory as he prepares to settle down and begin a new adventure. "I am tied to Milan with great affection. It's an important day for me, it's special and different to what I could have imagined," Leonardo told Sky Sport Italia during his unveiling. "I am truly happy for this choice. I have been here for 12 years and starting after Carlo means something even deeper as I had a good rapport with him." Leonardo spent Sunday saying farewell to his former mentor, and he admits Ancelotti had a helping hand in pushing him to take on the role. "It was extraordinary yesterday and to see all the players crying was strong," added the coach. "Carlo has always stimulated me to accept this role. It has been difficult over the last few days with everything that has happened. "I am happy, I start a new adventure. Now we have to construct. We have the right foundations in terms of will and determination in place to succeed "We have a good structure here and I don't think there is any need to make major changes." Kaka has been linked with plenty of clubs as the transfer rumours continue, but Leonado is not fazed by all the hype, confident his fellow Brazilian will stay. "Kaka is always a dream for many teams. Honestly, I don't see any problems. We have him here and I hope he continues to stay here with us," added Leonardo. "Obviously you can never tell what happens with the transfer market, but I am hopeful he will stay." (IMG: style_emoticons/default/king.gif) First press conference (IMG: style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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Jun 1 2009, 12:26 PM
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QUOTE (Zed.D @ Jun 1 2009, 12:44 PM)  Counting UEFA Cup goals, Pato is our top goalscorer (18). he scored only 1 goal less than Kaka in the league but just a little less than half of Kaka's goals came from penalties (most of them earned by others).
IMO Kaka never was and never will be a striker. he's best used when he's playing in midfield, like old times. Agreed. Pato can be a goalmachine it just depends on how he's played. Try to look at his goal ratio when he has been playing with Kaka up front (as the striker in a christmas tree), he has averaged almost a goal per game this season, however he hardly ever scored playing next to Pippo. Back at Internacional he played as a '9' aswell, so I have no doubts that he could do that at Milan. If we play a 4-3-3, he would be perfectly able to play the striker role. We only need one more striker if we're gonna play a two-striker formation, playing Pato on the wing is a waste, like Robinho on the wing in Real Madrid.
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Jun 1 2009, 12:43 PM
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QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Jun 1 2009, 01:18 PM)  We need a striker. Kaka being our first scorer (even if many of his goals came from penalties) means we need one more up front IMO. How can we rely on Borriello? We're probably going to play like this: Gattuso - Pirlo - Flamini Kaka - Pato - Ronaldinho in which case I don't think we need another forward. In any case, we MUST sign a great CB and a great LB as soon as possible! PS Please take Seedorf with you Carlo!
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Jun 1 2009, 01:58 PM
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Leonardo's first press conference. very interesting. QUOTE A NEW ERAHumility, enthusiasm and a fun football. These are the new believes of the new Rossoneri’s coach Leonardo who was presented today at San Siro. A new path which starts without forgetting the help of the friend Carlo Ancelotti.(IMG: http://media2.acmilan.com/200904/13687_news.jpg) MILAN – Today a new path and new era started for Milan, born from the dreams and projects of president Silvio Berluscni. The new Milan coach, Leonardo, today during the press conference of San Siro presented his philosophy, his new project: “THANKS CARLO”“Today for me is an absolutely special day. I dream of becoming a player, but I would have never thought of being a coach. To start this adventure you need solid basis, like the great affection which ties me to this club and without doubt the great respect. I’ve been in this environment for the past 12 years and for me to start again after Carlo Ancelotti has a very deep meaning. What ties me to Carlo is an extraordinary tie, he is a very sensible person and it was very strong seeing how the entire dressing room and environment are tied to him. I would have never accepted this duty if there wasn’t a great rapport between us and especially if there wasn’t this final part of the season which saw us all agree. I must admit that Carlo Ancelotti is the person who most motivated me to accept this role, between us there was a sort of common path and this was very nice. Today for me it starts a new adventure, with great humility, enthusiasm and will to do, and what makes me happy is feeling a lot of trust around me.” “I FEEL LIKE AN ADMINISTRATOR”“How I see myself? More with the tie than the track suit. Without doubt I change role, but I’m a coach. What can be different from another coach is the path. Today I have a club vision, I know perfectly well the culture, philosophy, the needs of this club because I worked in the management. However, I’m not the director of the technical area anymore, my role will be that of moving these work experiences on the pitch. The perfect work could be administrator. Yes, I see myself as an administrator of a structure which already works very well and which can be improved. I see myself as the right person for re-arranging new mechanisms. I start from the fundamental presumption that nothing will be upset, because I believe that a work structure must be maintained. This staff, this organization knows everything about this squad, it has a baggage of experience from which we must start again with more ideas and new objectives. We have an important margin of growth from the programs level and we can grow also on the tactical level.” THE NEW TECHNICAL STAFF“On the pitch I will rely a lot on Mauro Tassotti who will be my assistant coach. With him we shall evaluate the management of the training session, of the daily work. Daniele Tognaccini will be in charge of the athletic structure, with the duty of trying new methods, new tests, new controls and new methods of work. For example I believe a lot in an athletic preparation with the ball, to quicken the action, to have more ball possession in the opponents centre half. With regards to the medical part, we shall again to evaluations. Then we shall rely to two specific figures to obtain tactical and scientific data. It will be two people with a detached vision to the event, positioned in specific zones for the control of the opponents, movements, game spaces. Goalkeeper trainers will remain Villiam Vecchi and Valerio Fiori.” “THE FOOTBALL I LOVE”“I don’t know yet with which tactical setup we shall play, because a lot will depend from the technical material we have. I would say that there is a solid basis, which is that of the 4-3-1-2 which can vary in identity. I think about an offensive game, which entertains and allows the players’ talents to give their best without losing consistency. Today the team which plays best in this sense is Barcelona, Italian football had various periods, I think for example about the 4-4-2 which were quite static and the consequent will, from the fans, to see a more entertaining football. I inspire myself to the Brazil’s game of Tele Santana, but those were the 80s, today you cannot do without the talent helped by the strength and battle because football has changed, it has become with more fighting spirit. Even a coach of my past like Guus Hiddink, lately has varied a bit his game module, imposing more on the physical strength. Changes will always be there. I admired a lot the Brazil of 1982, light in its game, with players who basically did not have exact duties and who had two full-backs who pushed forward a lot. “In any case, this team has a solid base from where we can re-start and surely we will have incoming players. For example I’m very concentrated on the wings, on the push of the wingers that my team will have. Something in this sense will be made for sure. Kaka? He’s certainly a transfer market player, but I hope he can remain and re-start with him. Ronaldinho? He arrived with great enthusiasm and in the first six months he did very well, scoring also important goals. Then after the injury he found it difficult, he noticed how hard Italian football is and how much commitment there must be in the daily work. I think that this year it was very important for him to understand various things.” “A PRESIDENT WHO DREAMS”“President Silvio Berlusconi has always had words of encouragement for me, just like general manager Adriano Galliani. Our president is a person who dreams and close to him there is a club who is concentrated in making these dreams become reality.” (we will play with wingers (IMG: style_emoticons/default/yahoo.gif) )
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Jun 1 2009, 03:22 PM
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QUOTE Leonardo to use science to create Milan masterpiece
MILAN, June 1 (Reuters) - Just like his Renaissance namesake, new AC Milan coach Leonardo plans to use the latest scientific advances to create a footballing masterpiece.
The Brazilian rookie, who has replaced new Chelsea boss Carlo Ancelotti on a two-year contract, wants to play attractive soccer by analysing detailed fitness and performance data of every player.
While such techniques have been used for some time in England, Spain and Germany, Serie A has been slow to catch on and Leonardo plans a mini-revolution.
More like a manager than a coach in a tracksuit, the 39-year-old former Milan player will also keep most of his old duties as technical director. ADVERTISEMENT
“I have the idea of having two assistants that will deal with technical data and scientific information,” the 1994 World Cup winner told a news conference at the San Siro on Monday.
“People will see me more with a suit and tie, that’s true.”
Ancelotti, who led Milan to glory in the 2003 and 2007 Champions League, has moved on after two unsuccessful seasons but Leonardo said his approach would not differ hugely with playing good football the first objective.
“I have the idea of doing training with the ball, to have a team that is quick with the ball,” he said. “The style of Milan, the philosophy goes on. 4-3-1-2, this is our identity, but it can change. I want to play in an attacking, entertaining way.”
Barcelona’s success this term in 38-year-old Pep Guardiola’s first season has raised expectations that novice Leonardo can do something similar after Milan limped in third in Serie A.
“Today it’s normal to talk about Barcelona seeing what has happened this year,” he said in perfect Italian, one of the five languages he speaks.
“My style won’t be based on someone else, it will be my own style,” he added after saying the 1982 Brazil team was the best of all-time and England’s Fabio Capello the best ever coach.
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Leonardo has two immediate priorities, keeping hold of Real Madrid target Kaka and getting the best out of Ronaldinho after an average first season at Milan.
“Kaka, like many other big players, will be courted by many great clubs. I don’t see that as strange,” he said. “Definitely it’s important that we keep him here with us. He is a big reference point for the team.
“I see in Ronaldinho a huge desire to rediscover his best form.”
Transfer plans will be decided shortly but Leonardo, who said he held the relevant coaching badges despite reports otherwise, jokingly gave a short list of targets.
“The players I have asked for are Lionel Messi and Cristiano Ronaldo,” he smiled.
Chief executive Adriano Galliani said it was hard to come to terms with Ancelotti’s departure after eight years but was confident long-term friend Leonardo could prosper like Capello did as a rookie at Milan in the early 1990s.
The Rossoneri would try to hang on to Kaka, he added, before again bemoaning Italian tax laws and the lack of stadium investment which he believes put English and Spanish clubs at a huge advantage.
“Ten years ago Messi and Ronaldo could have played in Italy but now no one even considers it,” Galliani said.
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Jun 1 2009, 03:45 PM
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QUOTE (Zed.D @ Jun 1 2009, 04:39 PM)  And he does have a coaching badge, according to this. (IMG: style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) perhabs he needs some other? I don't know if there is any diference, because i don't know anything about coaching license, between the coaching badges...perhabs he needs special badge form UEFA?? (IMG: style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)
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Jun 2 2009, 10:54 PM
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QUOTE (Zed.D @ Jun 1 2009, 04:02 PM)  Maybe, but whatever it is, it's not as a big deal... No? And why not? Do you trust a policeman with a fake badge? A historian who studied law? A doctor who's a vet?
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Jun 3 2009, 12:07 AM
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All I'll say about Leonardo as coach is that I hope Berlusconi made the right choice. He would not have been my first pick, but I'm willing to keep an open mind and see what he does.
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Jun 3 2009, 01:07 AM
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QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Jun 3 2009, 12:54 AM)  No? And why not? Do you trust a policeman with a fake badge? A historian who studied law? A doctor who's a vet? I would trust an inexperienced policeman, a historian and a doctor as long as they got their best 11 men doing the job. And I would take them any day ahead of their experienced coworkers who allow men that can no longer do the job right do it.
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Jun 10 2009, 07:30 AM
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QUOTE Kaka finally ended weeks of speculation by signing with Real Madrid on Monday evening and Milan coach Leonardo has admitted that the Ballon d'Or winner's presence will be missed at the club.
"It is true we will all miss him, as a player and as a person, because he is an extraordinary lad. He is part of Milan's history and we will certainly miss him," the Brazilian admitted in an interview with Sky Sport 24.
"I wish him good luck, because I think he deserves it, this is a sure sign that things are moving forward."
Leonardo now has to mould the squad in his own image, after Carlo Ancelotti's eight-year tenure at the club ended when he moved to Chelsea earlier this summer.
Kaka was certainly an influential player for Milan helping them win the Coppa Italia, World Club Cup, Champions League, and Scudetto during his time at the club. forza Leo! Bring us glory!
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Jun 12 2009, 08:47 AM
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QUOTE Milan Like Edin Dzeko - Leonardo
Milan coach Leonardo still harbours hope of signing Edin Dzeko from German side Wolfsburg despite the club's refusal to listen to offers for their man.
The Rossoneri are keen on the Bosnian hitman, but their hopes of landing him took a knock when the Germans claimed they would not sell. Vice president Adriano Galliani has threatened to drop interest in the hitman, but Leonardo is hoping he doesn't.
"I really like Dzeko," the coach told Sky Sport Italia.
Andrea Pirlo and Alexandre Pato have been linked with lucrative moves to Chelsea according to reports in England, but Leonardo believes both men will stay at the San Siro.
"Pirlo and Pato? Not all the rumours in the papers come true," continued the coach.
Pirlo has claimed he would be staying with the Rossoneri and he reaffirmed those intentions on Thursday night following Italy's win over New Zealand.
"I am Milan 100 percent," said the player.
Leonardo also spoke about Ronaldo's propsed move to Real Madrid after Manchester United accepted a bid from the Spanish side.
"Ronaldo? I didn't expect it so early, but it is a mega swoop," added the coach. He's got balls, lets see if we can sign him. I have no doubt that dzeko was his choice. The management probably would prefer 32 year old toni (IMG: style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) Thats the one thing I like about Leo over carlo. He knows how to pick his players. (IMG: style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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Jun 12 2009, 10:23 AM
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QUOTE (Bluesummers @ Jun 12 2009, 07:47 AM)  He's got balls, lets see if we can sign him. I have no doubt that dzeko was his choice. The management probably would prefer 32 year old toni (IMG: style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) Thats the one thing I like about Leo over carlo. He knows how to pick his players. (IMG: style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) yep his scouting got us Pato (IMG: style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) and ofc Kaka'
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Jun 14 2009, 06:45 PM
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QUOTE (Bluesummers @ Jun 12 2009, 08:47 AM)  Thats the one thing I like about Leo over carlo. He knows how to pick his players. (IMG: style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) Yep, especially after the transfer market (for Milan) didn't even start. But hey, let's jump to the conclusions.
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Jun 14 2009, 08:13 PM
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Be serious. We're talking about his transfers now. Kaka and Pato, yes, partly Leonardo's success. But "picking his players" means something else.
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Jul 2 2009, 10:56 AM
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QUOTE The Brazilian is studying for his coaching badges. One of his teachers admits the Brazilian is very attentive but somewhat "messed up"…
Leonardo took over from Carlo Ancelotti at Milan last month and soon enrolled into the renowned Coverciano course to take his coaching badges, which will enable him to sit on the bench next season.
Former Milan midfielder Romeo Benetti has had the privilege of preparing the Brazilian for his maiden season as coach.
“He is a serious lad, very attentive, like the rest of them, but he strikes me as being a little messed up at the moment,” Benetti revealed to La Gazzetta dello Sport.
“He is always on time, but he is evidently worried - he has to put himself out there. It’s a nice commitment but one that comes with great responsibilities.
“He applies himself - he’s a swot, as anyone might be. Some of his colleagues make fun of him, but he plays along.
“And he does not enjoy any special treatment either - he will go to the meet-up of Milan on July 6, but will be back here the next day until mid-July.”
The course began on June 8 and the aspiring coaches have to attend classes five days a week for a month-and-a-half. I'm not sure if this is a good thing or a bad thing.
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Jul 2 2009, 11:14 AM
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QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Jul 2 2009, 10:56 AM)  I'm not sure if this is a good thing or a bad thing. I think its expected that he will be nervous at first. And with the team the management are preparing for him I cannot blame him one bit
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Jul 4 2009, 10:59 PM
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QUOTE (mishie @ Jul 4 2009, 10:56 PM)  Beginning to wonder if the players we are linked with are Leo's choices or is he suffering the Don Silvio effect.....Adebayor..no thanks...Fabiano...hmmmm not another brazilian please...Hunterlaar....now that would be great. I'm starting to worry a bit about Leo first that whole 'messed up thing' now him coming out and saying that coaching isn't really something that he's wanted to do or saw himself doing. Personally I think he was pushed into it more then anything else. As the next season could well likely be a transitional one and we won't have a competitive team. Only someone from the inside would accept this sort of deal.
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Jul 4 2009, 11:11 PM
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QUOTE (mishie @ Jul 4 2009, 11:04 PM)  I think i said in another thread about the balancing of the books for the next couple of seasons...this smacks to me of just employing someone who is already on the books...top class coach would require top money and insist on top players...it all costs and we all know a major rebuilding job is required. So i guess they thought cheap option play down our chances of winning anything and hope we make the top 4...how long Serie A keeps its 4 C.L places is another thing but thats a different conversation for another thread (IMG: style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) Agreed And hopefully all the Italian teams do well. And sadly Italy has been relying on Milan for the co-efficient point these past few years, and now Milan is not strong enough to compete. And Inter... No matter how well they do in Italy or who their coach is, they'll still stumble when it comes to the big stage. Let's hope they'll at least make it past the last 16 this time and not get beaten out by another brit team. Same goes for Juve who haven't been a force in the CL since their Lippi days. Personally I would have prefered Roma to get one of the places, Fiorentina are still new to the game and like last season they'll find it hard to cope, maybe even more this time around as they'll lose some of their best players...
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Jul 5 2009, 02:58 PM
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Maybe he is too young, but I believe Pato can do wonderful things for us next season. He has done very well for a kid in a league a tough league so far, and he does have the speed that compensates for Kaka. Then if Ronaldinho regains his form, then there could be a possibility of Milan challenging to some extent. Adding one more striker, and hoping that these three click, you never know. Ideally I would think it would take a miracle for Milan to win within the coming three seasons, but football is crazy in every sense of the term (IMG: style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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Jul 5 2009, 03:52 PM
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QUOTE (Protogonist @ Jul 5 2009, 02:58 PM)  Maybe he is too young, but I believe Pato can do wonderful things for us next season. He has done very well for a kid in a league a tough league so far, and he does have the speed that compensates for Kaka. Then if Ronaldinho regains his form, then there could be a possibility of Milan challenging to some extent. Adding one more striker, and hoping that these three click, you never know. Ideally I would think it would take a miracle for Milan to win within the coming three seasons, but football is crazy in every sense of the term (IMG: style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) We'd still need to look at the defence which is not great same goes for the midfield. We need a player that can replace Seedorf and play in that position. It's not just about the attack, we have problems in all areas of the pitch Even the goal keeping position is shaky, as we don't know if Abbiati will come into next season playing like cr@p or not and Dida is not good enough anymore
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Jul 5 2009, 08:10 PM
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QUOTE (mishie @ Jul 5 2009, 08:02 PM)  not just on the pitch...i think the club off the pitch is at its lowest for many years....i firmly believe we have lost of sense of morals with the way Kaka was pushed from the club which he stated time and again he didn't want to leave. Balancing the books s all well and good but there are still huge wage earners at the club so whats next?? Pato sold next season...it's not a understatment to say this club is in turmoil and 3 years to challenge for anything only if things work out if not....5 years plus i think THANKYOU!!! Exactly what I've been trying to say for weeks now!! What was the point of selling Kaka when we still have players who lets face it are only doing damage to the club by staying earning over 4m a season? These wages will render the Kaka sale null in 2 years time...
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Jul 5 2009, 08:38 PM
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Dida,Kaladze,Favalli,Kalac,Sheva all these players on vast sums of money then the players that have left since the end of the season like Emerson,Senderos major earners apart from Favalli all pretty useless.
Also the acquisition of Flamini in a already packed midfield also on big money when a position was already filled 3 times over in the midfield.
Major major bad running of this club for the last several years...and the lessons haven't been learnt from several key areas such as
1. Calciopoli...Galliani was involved and should have been shown the door when the club was found guilty, the man is incompetent and a liar.
2. The non qualification of last season C.L in which everyone could see in the last game of the previous seasons tournament how slow we were against Arsenal and how little we created and compare this against the absolute hammering we gave Man.Utd a couple of seasons previous.
3. The buying of "toy" players by Berlisconi players such as Ronaldo,Ronaldinho and latest Beckham...turning the club into a worldwide circus more interested in selling shirts than winning games.
4. Related to number 3 is the constant interference by Silvio in formation choice and player selection.
5. The vast amount of €'s invested in the academy and the refusual to play these players even in Coppa games.
All these thing have contributed to a slow decline which ends up in the unthinkable....we have to sell our best players to compensate for the overspending on bad decisions which unless something serious happens will just continue season after season until the fans become like fans from Naples....living on past glories and hoping one day maybe one day it will happen again!
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Jul 5 2009, 09:08 PM
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QUOTE (mishie @ Jul 5 2009, 07:38 PM)  Dida,Kaladze,Favalli,Kalac,Sheva all these players on vast sums of money then the players that have left since the end of the season like Emerson,Senderos major earners apart from Favalli all pretty useless.
Also the acquisition of Flamini in a already packed midfield also on big money when a position was already filled 3 times over in the midfield.
Major major bad running of this club for the last several years...and the lessons haven't been learnt from several key areas such as
1. Calciopoli...Galliani was involved and should have been shown the door when the club was found guilty, the man is incompetent and a liar.
2. The non qualification of last season C.L in which everyone could see in the last game of the previous seasons tournament how slow we were against Arsenal and how little we created and compare this against the absolute hammering we gave Man.Utd a couple of seasons previous.
3. The buying of "toy" players by Berlisconi players such as Ronaldo,Ronaldinho and latest Beckham...turning the club into a worldwide circus more interested in selling shirts than winning games.
4. Related to number 3 is the constant interference by Silvio in formation choice and player selection.
5. The vast amount of €'s invested in the academy and the refusual to play these players even in Coppa games.
All these thing have contributed to a slow decline which ends up in the unthinkable....we have to sell our best players to compensate for the overspending on bad decisions which unless something serious happens will just continue season after season until the fans become like fans from Naples....living on past glories and hoping one day maybe one day it will happen again! Great post. But I do think the Flamini deal was a good one. Ambro and Rino have next season, but the one after that will probably be their last as starters. We need to start thinking about replacing these players. And you forgot to mention mistakes like the co-ownership deals Galliani seems so fond of. I think we're losing around 10-15m a season on these sorts of deals. Look at what happened with Boriello. Plus the Gourcuff mistake. Not only did they loan him with an option to buy, but they also couldn't gaurantee him playing time when they tried to convince him to come back!!! I mean what the hell??!!! They knew they were going to sell Kaka, so why in God's name would they tell him that he's not gauranteed a spot in the first 11???!!! Oh right so Seedorf can come on the field every Sunday and jog around for 90 minutes. This thing just leaves me baffled...
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Jul 5 2009, 09:19 PM
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QUOTE (mishie @ Jul 5 2009, 09:13 PM)  I see your point but what about the young Mathías Cardacio isn't he a player being groomed for that position..and yes i forgot about the countless €'s lost in co-ownership deals to Personally I don't understand why he was bought in the first place. Personally I see real potential in both him and Viudez. They knew that Carlo would not give them a lot of playing time. Hopefully though they won't get sent out on loan, because if they do they'll get lost with all the other players we loaned out... I think given the chance by Leo they could both shine next season, since we're going down the Arsenal route that is. Viudez is really skillful, and he's lightning quick with the ball at his feet. I think it was Tennie who commented about his performances in some U-21 competition, and he was really impressive. Cardacio, I personally like a lot, he's great on the ball, he's always calm and collected, has a good passing range. He sometimes reminds me of Real's Gago, the way he moves around on the pitch.
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Jul 5 2009, 09:37 PM
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QUOTE (mishie @ Jul 5 2009, 09:23 PM)  My point exactly...to many times these players have been over looked...said this hundreds of times about the youth..Darmain another i hope will get game time to Agreed Personally I think having this squad will be enough for next season GKAbbiati Kalac Dida DEFZambrotta Oddo Nesta Bonera Thiago Silva <----- That's 2/3 LBs, 2 RBs and 5 CBs Favalli Darmian Jankulovski Albertazzi Maybe a new LB... MIDGattuso Ambrosini Flamini Cardacio <----- That's 4 DMs, 2/3 CMs, 3 attacking mids and 1 winger Pirlo Seedorf :praying:Sneijder:praying: Viudez Abate Di Gennaro Ronaldinho ATTPato Fabiano Inzaghi <----- 1 SS and 2/3 Pure out and out strikers and Pippo tap in master Hunterlaar Maybe Boriello (hopefully not) I think this would be a great start heading into the new season of transition.
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Jul 16 2009, 06:13 AM
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Once again if what you say is true, why is Tassotti still an assistant coach?? I think if anything, he must take the next step forward.
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Jul 18 2009, 07:58 PM
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Why do you think Leonardo didn't want to coach?
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Jul 22 2009, 03:13 AM
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QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Jul 20 2009, 02:24 AM)  he works for the BBC fduring World Cups. Ah yeah, I do remember him doing a bit of media work over here now.
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Jul 22 2009, 06:43 AM
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I remember the two Swede babes kissing, and Leo saying all they're missing is a Brazilian.
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Oct 13 2009, 09:10 PM
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So. there have been two international breaks so far this season for World Cup qualifiers - one in September and this one currently going on. The curious thing is that the erstwhile coach of AC Milan, Leonardo, has taken 3 day trips to Brazil with his girlfriend during both breaks. The players not called up were given the time off (no training) and this past weekend, Leo skipped out on the last training before the break to catch his flight. Now there may be some serious family thing going on but... ...Fishdoll thinks that jetting off on holiday during international breaks and letting a team that's ALREADY visibly out of shape just sit around for 3 days (when other teams do not do this during breaks) shows a shocking lack of professionalism on the part of the coach. Also shows that - unless something comes out to prove otherwise - he's not taking the job very seriously at all. ( link to big ranty article on telelombardia about Leo and his vacations).
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Oct 14 2009, 12:00 AM
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Fishdoll thinks he, dst's dogs, and LaPalma's pet rabbit could do a better job at this point.
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Oct 14 2009, 01:54 AM
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QUOTE (Tennie @ Oct 13 2009, 07:00 PM)  Fishdoll thinks he, dst's dogs, and LaPalma's pet rabbit could do a better job at this point. Diavolino is sad that Fishdoll didn't think about him. And Leo how am I supposed to keep defending you if you keep doing stuff like this?! (IMG: style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
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Oct 14 2009, 02:04 AM
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Fishdoll apologizes to Diavolino and asks if he wants to be the motivator during training - he can chase after the guys when they're doing runs and bite the slowpokes (he has the teeth for it!).
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Oct 14 2009, 02:27 AM
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QUOTE (Tennie @ Oct 13 2009, 02:10 PM)  So. there have been two international breaks so far this season for World Cup qualifiers - one in September and this one currently going on. The curious thing is that the erstwhile coach of AC Milan, Leonardo, has taken 3 day trips to Brazil with his girlfriend during both breaks. The players not called up were given the time off (no training) and this past weekend, Leo skipped out on the last training before the break to catch his flight. Now there may be some serious family thing going on but... ...Fishdoll thinks that jetting off on holiday during international breaks and letting a team that's ALREADY visibly out of shape just sit around for 3 days (when other teams do not do this during breaks) shows a shocking lack of professionalism on the part of the coach. Also shows that - unless something comes out to prove otherwise - he's not taking the job very seriously at all. ( link to big ranty article on telelombardia about Leo and his vacations). take it easy, he needs some time off; everyone does. There is no point working when the entire squad is under immense pressure and the morale is zero. Let them all get some rest and resume working this week. We don't have a young squad, so its not like they need training. They need to get their head in the game and concentrate and maybe some time off can do them some good. I'm beginning to think tactics are not where our problems are rather we are lacking motivation and discpline. Tactics have never won games alone, the players need to perform. We should be able to beat atalanta with no coach at all given the calibre of our squad.
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Oct 14 2009, 02:48 AM
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Hah. Knew it wouldn't last, the two of us agreeing! (If it did, Fishdoll would start to twitch).
Gonna respectfully disagree that two extended breaks within the space of 6 weeks is really necessary or wise especially for a brand new coach of a squad that's not in shape anyway. And if the coach skips out on practice so he can catch his flight, how on earth can he then expect ANY of his players to show up on time for training?
I do agree that it's motivation and discipline but that isn't going to get better when the coach goes off on holiday once a month during the middle of the season. Leadership comes from the top and Leo just isn't showing any, nor is he showing discipline.
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