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post Apr 28 2009, 10:24 AM
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I hope Ancelotti has gotten it by now... only play those who care!
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post Apr 28 2009, 12:16 PM
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No Inzaghi No party !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! hes gunna score again watch and see !!!
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post Apr 28 2009, 07:04 PM
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Today's training has taken place.

It was bucketing all through training, which consisted of warmups, drills and practice games.

Beckham, Bonera, Borriello and Antonini trained separately in the gym. Pippo worked on a series of sprints. Nesta did a few minutes of running.

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Catania's coach Walter Zenga got a touchline ban for this one and will be watching from the stands.
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post Apr 28 2009, 07:20 PM
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Imagine Rino returning and helping the team win the Scudetto, on Paolo's last season, one of those dramatic last game twists... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)
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Catania's coach Walter Zenga got a touchline ban for this one and will be watching from the stands.


Wasn't he suspended when Catania played us at the San Siro?

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post Apr 28 2009, 09:46 PM
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Early Gazzetta lineup:

Dida
Zambrotta Favalli Maldini Jankulovski
Beckham Pirlo Ambrosini
Kaka Seedorf
Inzaghi


-1 Seedorf
+1 Ronaldinho/Sheva

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post Apr 28 2009, 10:00 PM
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Don't tell me Pato is going to miss this game as well? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)
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post Apr 29 2009, 12:30 PM
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Today there are two training sessions.

This morning was devoted to individual work.

Shevchenko e Darmian ran in the woods;

Ronaldinho e Seedorf did a series of (I think it's translated as) running stairs;

Kakà, Jankulovski e Flamini ran laps around the central pitch;

Ambrosini e Pirlo worked on the raised camp at the side of the gym;

Mattioni, Thiago Silva, Cardacio e Senderos did some rapidity and technique exercises with Tassotti and Galli;

Antonini, Bonera e Pato worked on changing directions and technical exercises on the raised pitch;

Maldini, Favalli e Zambrotta worked in the sand pit;

Beckham, after some work in the sand pit, worked in the gym;

Kalac, Gattuso, Viudez, Abbiati, Kaladze, Nesta, Borriello worked in the gym.

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zeddie, given the fact that Pato is training with the rest of the guys and not in the gym leads me to think that he'll be available to play.
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post Apr 29 2009, 12:38 PM
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I hope so. thanks for the update.
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post Apr 29 2009, 01:30 PM
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It seems that we'll be playing yet another friendly in two weeks time against Albania... this is so ****ing ridiculous!
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post Apr 29 2009, 02:12 PM
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Man, I hope we don't miss out on CL football ever again! we've become miserable...
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post Apr 29 2009, 02:34 PM
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Catania ... Hope for 3 points with another impressive display from the team (IMG:style_emoticons/default/96.gif)
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post Apr 29 2009, 05:39 PM
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Afternoon training has taken place. There were warmups, drills, and practice games. During the final practice game, the primavera keeper Perucchini was in one of the goals.

Pato and Gattuso trained with the team.

Kalac and Zambrotta trained in the gym.
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post Apr 29 2009, 05:45 PM
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QUOTE (Tennie @ Apr 29 2009, 08:09 PM) *
Pato and Gattuso trained with the team.


Does that mean he could play against Catania? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/freak.gif) (EDIT: I'm talking about Rino)

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post Apr 29 2009, 06:24 PM
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I don't think so, zeddie, though it might be possible he'd come on briefly. The talk has half been about him maybe being back for the Gobbi game, which is the one after this.
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post Apr 29 2009, 08:59 PM
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Hope hes back for the Juve match Gattuso and Pato !!!!
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post Apr 30 2009, 04:21 PM
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Today's training has taken place.

There were warmups, drills and practice games. Pato and Zambrotta trained with the squad.

Also seen outside today were Nesta and Borriello, both of whom did some running.

Gattuso, Bonera, Antonini, Abbiati and Kaladze worked in the gym.


ps - Pato cut his hair.
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post Apr 30 2009, 05:18 PM
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id say this is the our easiest game now _ the other 4 are tricky and tough _ but then again catania away isnt a stroll in the park either so i hope this is where the 5 straight wins begins for milan _ and as unlikely as it may seem an 18th scudetto (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) yes i still believe

o milan fan v2 looks wicked (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) i havent been on here for ages

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post Apr 30 2009, 07:21 PM
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QUOTE (Tennie @ Apr 30 2009, 07:21 PM) *
Welcome back, Suhail3! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)


cheers tennie (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cool.gif) looking to stick around now glad i remembered my password no offense to milanmania

but this forum is way better (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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post Apr 30 2009, 08:22 PM
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Do stick around, Suhail3! I've never been to that board you mentioned so can't comment. I like this place well enough, though.(IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)



QUOTE (Tennie @ Apr 30 2009, 11:21 AM) *
ps - Pato cut his hair.


See what I mean:

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post Apr 30 2009, 09:15 PM
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Ewww!
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QUOTE (dst @ Apr 30 2009, 01:15 PM) *
Ewww!

You're telling me!

He looks like he belongs in a prison yard with that look. Holy Jesus.
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post Apr 30 2009, 10:55 PM
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probably to scare the opposing defenders more (IMG:style_emoticons/default/devilsmiley.gif)
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QUOTE (Tennie @ Apr 30 2009, 03:22 PM) *

LOL (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

...looks to me like someone lost a drunken bet! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

I don't mind that much though, as long as his form isn't affected by this... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/thumbup.gif)

Can't wait to see him on the pitch again. Our extremely talented young-blood! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)
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post May 1 2009, 02:14 AM
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Not too long ago, our Brazilian contingent were a quartet - since halved - of role models. Since then, we've hosted a bunch of partyboy maroons (don't think I need to name names) who can't keep it in their pants, with only one of them having produced anything on the pitch on a consistent basis.

That being said, I think I'll jump off a bridge if we wind up signing Adriano.

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post May 1 2009, 08:10 AM
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QUOTE (MizNelson @ May 1 2009, 05:44 AM) *
Not too long ago, our Brazilian contingent were a quartet - since halved - of role models. Since then, we've hosted a bunch of partyboy maroons (don't think I need to name names) who can't keep it in their pants, with only one of them having produced anything on the pitch on a consistent basis.

Don't take it the wrong way, Miz, but you'll have to name names (if you please) and back up your claims with a reliable proof (if you please).


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EDIT, I may be the only one but I didn't dislike Pato's new looks at all! I definitely like it better than when he let's his hair grow to a point where it looks like an afro. besides, it will be back to normal faster than you can imagine (unless he wants to keep it this way)

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post May 1 2009, 04:32 PM
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Today's training has taken place.

Daniele Bonera (finally!) took place in practice.

After warmups, the team divided in two:

Jankulovski, Bonera, Senderos, Shevchenko, Beckham, Pirlo, Ronaldinho, Zambrotta e Ambrosini worked on a series of (climbs? I think. There are some hills on the training ground).

Thiago Silva, Darmian, Seedorf, Pato, Mattioni, Favalli, Kakà e Maldini did a series of 10 meter sprints.

Rino Gattuso e Filippo Inzaghi worked on agility exercises and exercises with the (?) low obstacles.

After all this fun, there were practice games. Bonera took part in the first 2 of 3.

The three keepers Dida, Kalac e Perucchini trained as usual with the goalkeeping staff.

Cardacio e Borriello trained in the gym.

Nesta, Antonini e Abbiati did separate training.

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QUOTE (Tennie @ May 1 2009, 08:32 AM) *
Rino Gattuso e Filippo Inzaghi worked on agility exercises and exercises with the (?) low obstacles.

Maybe that's the equivalent of the tires NFL players run through during practice.
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post May 2 2009, 12:59 PM
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Call ups:
Dida, Kalac, Perucchini;
Zambrotta, Maldini, Favalli, Jankuloski, Senderos, Mattioni, Darmian, Bonera;
Beckham, Pirlo, Ambrosini;
Kakà, Seedorf, Ronaldinho, Pato, Inzaghi, Shevchenko

No Rino. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) But Bonera's back after an awfully long time.
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QUOTE (Tennie @ May 2 2009, 12:59 PM) *
Call ups:
Dida, Kalac, Perucchini;
Zambrotta, Maldini, Favalli, Jankuloski, Senderos, Mattioni, Darmian, Bonera;
Beckham, Pirlo, Ambrosini;
Kakà, Seedorf, Ronaldinho, Pato, Inzaghi, Shevchenko

No Rino. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) But Bonera's back after an awfully long time.


(IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) stil no Rino

Glad to see Bonera back too its been a long time too long do you think he will start Tennie ?!?!
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I don't think he will, Ry. He may play some minutes though -- he's been out for so long that there's no way he could be match fit.
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post May 2 2009, 03:15 PM
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Ancelotti has given his prematch press conference.

Highlights:
* The lineup will be mostly the same as against Palermo, except that Janku will play in place of Flamini (who's suspended).
* There's a doubt as to whether Pato or Seedorf will play up front.
* Nesta, Borriello and Kaladze are recuperating but won't be ready or available for the end of the season.
* Rino is almost ready to return and could be used for the last two games of the season. He should be available to Italy for the Confederations Cup this summer.
* Ronaldinho is in good shape but he doesn't fit easily into the lineup that's gotten some very good results.
* Shevchenko hasn't played much but has been a good professional this year.
* Borriello is unsellable.
* If Gourcuff returns, Ancelotti would be content. He's done well with Bordeaux and has matured.

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post May 2 2009, 03:32 PM
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QUOTE (Carlo)
I will have to choose between Pato and Seedorf.


Here we go again... Pato who was one of our most consistent players this season now has to fight for his place again, with Zee!!
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zeddie, has it occurred to you that Pato may not be fully fit? Why all the defensiveness toward Pato?
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QUOTE (Tennie @ May 2 2009, 07:14 PM) *
zeddie, has it occurred to you that Pato may not be fully fit?

When Carlo says he has to choose between Pato and Seedorf, no actually. it means to me Pato is fit enough to play.
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Then our opinions differ. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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QUOTE (Tennie @ May 2 2009, 03:55 PM) *
Then our opinions differ. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

Maybe you're right and Pato is still not fully fit, but I'd still prefer a 1 leged Pato over Seedorf any day of the week.
But that's just my oppinnion. And in any case, if we go with the xmas tree and Pato really is not 100% fit, then there is Ronaldinho, who is infact an attacking mid and can play in the xmas tree unlike Seedorf who does nothing but slow every play we build up.

I think this would be a fairly simple decision to make, only Carlo would choose Seedorf in that position over either Dinho or Pato

Regarding the line-up my choice would be (considering Pato not being fully fit)

Zambro--Maldini--Favall0i--Janku
Becks--Pirlo--Ambro
Kaka--Dinho
Pippo


For me, this line-up basically picks itself out considering recent performances...


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The day Carlo leaves i'll be good..He doesn't know how to make everyone happy the way Guardiola does...Basically some players are more important than others and that is not supposed to be the case....Everyone should play maine..I'm tired of saying these things over and over...Now tomorrow we hae Catania, we need pato cuz we'll be more dangerous with Kaka pato and Inzaghi upfront cuz Seedorf has nothing to offer upfront...Also i'll rather put Zambrotta on the left and Antonini on the right!!!
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I also think that Ancelotti is looking ahead -- next week we have the Gobbi. Even if it's at the San Siro, it's not goign to be an easy game. After that, it's Udine, Roma, and Fiorentina. if there's a doubt as to Pato's match fitness, this is the game to hold him out of. We're going to need him the rest of the run in.

kenny, do you have any basis for your statement that ancelotti doesn't make everyone happy and guardiola does?

FYI, Antonini isn't available. Check the call up list. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) He's still injured.
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QUOTE (Tennie @ May 2 2009, 06:56 PM) *
I also think that Ancelotti is looking ahead -- next week we have the Gobbi. Even if it's at the San Siro, it's not goign to be an easy game. After that, it's Udine, Roma, and Fiorentina. if there's a doubt as to Pato's match fitness, this is the game to hold him out of. We're going to need him the rest of the run in.

You're probably right. I'd forgotten about the run in.
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QUOTE (Tennie @ May 2 2009, 04:26 PM) *
I also think that Ancelotti is looking ahead -- next week we have the Gobbi. Even if it's at the San Siro, it's not goign to be an easy game. After that, it's Udine, Roma, and Fiorentina. if there's a doubt as to Pato's match fitness, this is the game to hold him out of. We're going to need him the rest of the run in.

kenny, do you have any basis for your statement that ancelotti doesn't make everyone happy and guardiola does?

FYI, Antonini isn't available. Check the call up list. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) He's still injured.


sorry i didn't check the call ups but u get my point...He doesn't make everyone satisfied...Its called rotation...Same squad in and out...its just not fair to the other players...They all have contracts with Milan but Carlo doesn't play them...Concerning pato i guess ur right..however, its not fair at all...Guardiola knows how to rotate and at least every squad player has played almost 13-15 games...Here its pirlo champions league, uefa, cup, scudetto, this that...even take a look at real madrid...u know its not all the games that Robben plays or Marcelo plays or even Higuain plays...We need to really impose rotation...i think we've played d same line up for like 3 wks straight d only diff being when pato got injured and now flamini suspended...i mean i'm just saying

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QUOTE (Tennie @ May 2 2009, 02:23 PM) *
I don't think he will, Ry. He may play some minutes though -- he's been out for so long that there's no way he could be match fit.


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QUOTE (gal_kenny @ May 2 2009, 04:32 PM) *
sorry i didn't check the call ups but u get my point...He doesn't make everyone satisfied...Its called rotation...Same squad in and out...its just not fair to the other players...They all have contracts with Milan but Carlo doesn't play them...Concerning pato i guess ur right..however, its not fair at all...Guardiola knows how to rotate and at least every squad player has played almost 13-15 games...Here its pirlo champions league, uefa, cup, scudetto, this that...even take a look at real madrid...u know its not all the games that Robben plays or Marcelo plays or even Higuain plays...We need to really impose rotation...i think we've played d same line up for like 3 wks straight d only diff being when pato got injured and now flamini suspended...i mean i'm just saying


Rotation is good but it isnt always.......it can make the team play good one week then bad the next i think we are finding the balance now !!
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We HAVE had some rather good results recently. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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QUOTE (Tennie @ May 2 2009, 04:48 PM) *
We HAVE had some rather good results recently. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)


now we have marched South to Catania (IMG:style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)

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QUOTE (gal_kenny @ May 2 2009, 03:19 PM) *
The day Carlo leaves i'll be good..He doesn't know how to make everyone happy the way Guardiola does...Basically some players are more important than others and that is not supposed to be the case....Everyone should play maine..I'm tired of saying these things over and over...Now tomorrow we hae Catania, we need pato cuz we'll be more dangerous with Kaka pato and Inzaghi upfront cuz Seedorf has nothing to offer upfront...Also i'll rather put Zambrotta on the left and Antonini on the right!!!

I personally have no problem with him playing with the same players when they are performing well, especially now that our schedule is light and we don't have midweek games. My problem is Carlo insisting on Seedorf when there is Dinho on the bench, who is an actual attacking mid, that can play in that particular position better then Seedorf ever will. If a position opened up in the midfield 3 Carlo wouldn't be considering who to play there, Seedorf would get the obvious nod, which is perfectly alright since he is an actual midfielder, but to play him ahead of Dinho next to Kaka is ridiculous when there is Dinho available.

As for Antonini and Zambro, if Antonini were available then he should play on the left and Zambro on the right not the other way around, I think we've all seen that particular 'tactic' (if you want to call it that) fail one too many times

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I also think that Ancelotti is looking ahead -- next week we have the Gobbi. Even if it's at the San Siro, it's not goign to be an easy game. After that, it's Udine, Roma, and Fiorentina. if there's a doubt as to Pato's match fitness, this is the game to hold him out of. We're going to need him the rest of the run in.

kenny, do you have any basis for your statement that ancelotti doesn't make everyone happy and guardiola does?

FYI, Antonini isn't available. Check the call up list. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) He's still injured.

I completely agree with you, and I know I'm repeating myself, but why play Seedorf ahead of Ronaldinho in that particular position? Alright, Pato should absolutely not be playing if not 100% fit, agreed, but Dinho if fit, has been playing well in the few measly minutes he's been getting and yet Seedorf keeps getting worse with every match he is still given the start in yet he's the only one that is considered for the first 11. I don't see how any of you think that's logical on Carlo's part. His favouritsm towards Seedorf is clearly clouding his judgment in this area. And I'm not saying this because I'm anti Carlo or anthing like that, but it comes from the frustration I have towards Seedorf after seeing him play week in week out and playing like he doesn't give a cr@p and yet Carlo still picks him.

I know I always say that he favoures him, but sometimes I think that Carlo is afraid to bench Seedorf because he knows he will cause problems, so he wants to avoid any type of confrontation. Carlo has always struck me as someone who shies away from a fight...

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We HAVE had some rather good results recently. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

Exactly, that's why I would never come on here and say Pippo or Pirlo or Flamini should not be playing every week. It would be ridiculous on my part. The system is clearly working as it is, but with that being said, it's clearly working IN SPIGHT of having Seedorf on the pitch evry week
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QUOTE (han2503 @ May 2 2009, 09:16 AM) *
I know I always say that he favoures him, but sometimes I think that Carlo is afraid to bench Seedorf because he knows he will cause problems, so he wants to avoid any type of confrontation. Carlo has always struck me as someone who shies away from a fight...

That's been my explanation for this all along. Let's not kid ourselves; Carlo isn't playing Seedorf because he actually likes the guy.
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QUOTE (han2503 @ May 2 2009, 04:15 PM) *
Maybe you're right and Pato is still not fully fit, but I'd still prefer a 1 leged Pato over Seedorf any day of the week.
But that's just my oppinnion. And in any case, if we go with the xmas tree and Pato really is not 100% fit, then there is Ronaldinho, who is infact an attacking mid and can play in the xmas tree unlike Seedorf who does nothing but slow every play we build up.

I think this would be a fairly simple decision to make, only Carlo would choose Seedorf in that position over either Dinho or Pato

Regarding the line-up my choice would be (considering Pato not being fully fit)

Zambro--Maldini--Favall0i--Janku
Becks--Pirlo--Ambro
Kaka--Dinho
Pippo


For me, this line-up basically picks itself out considering recent performances...


As much as I don't rate R80 I would sooner play him over the now useless Seedorf. IMO Seedorf should be thankful just to be on the bench, I can't remember the last time he dominated a game like he used to. Playing Seedorf is very similar to playing with ten men.
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QUOTE (Tennie @ May 2 2009, 03:15 PM) *
Ancelotti has given his prematch press conference.

Highlights:
* The lineup will be mostly the same as against Palermo, except that Janku will play in place of Flamini (who's suspended).
* There's a doubt as to whether Pato or Seedorf will play up front.
* Nesta, Borriello and Kaladze are recuperating but won't be ready or available for the end of the season.
* Rino is almost ready to return and could be used for the last two games of the season. He should be available to Italy for the Confederations Cup this summer.
* Ronaldinho is in good shape but he doesn't fit easily into the lineup that's gotten some very good results.
* Shevchenko hasn't played much but has been a good professional this year.
* Borriello is unsellable.
* If Gourcuff returns, Ancelotti would be content. He's done well with Bordeaux and has matured.


I read Borriello could be available for Juve?!?!
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I'm just quoting/translating what Ancelotti said in the press conference. Apparently he won't be available. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
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QUOTE (Tennie @ May 2 2009, 07:43 PM) *
I'm just quoting/translating what Ancelotti said in the press conference. Apparently he won't be available. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)


Perhaps the mind games have started...

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QUOTE (I_Rossoneri @ May 2 2009, 11:34 AM) *
I read Borriello could be available for Juve?!?!

No.

Someone posted this in R&B. I don't know whether to laugh or cringe.

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^^ Hee hee...that's very good. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)


I always felt Seedorf played, because he was the only box-to-box available in the team. If Ronaldinho had showed any inclination to drop back and fight for the ball (Kaka, Pato and Borriello) do it, then it would be fine. He's still in La Liga mode.

Seedorf has completely sucked attacking wise for the past 10 games or so. But in the match against Palermo, I thought it was an important role he played helping Ambro keep Liverani in check. R80 wouldn't last 10 minutes if given a job like that.

These kind of trivial things might have an impact on the match. I don't think we have a strong enough mid-field where we can free all 4 of our attackers from defensive duty. I also feel Pirlo's play improves a lot with Seedorf, since Seedorf also helps cut spaces. While if R80 is playing, then Pirlo goes back to that DM role, instead of the playmaker role.


But that's the way I see it, and my affection for Seedorf might be clouding my judgement.
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QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ May 3 2009, 01:08 AM) *
^^ Hee hee...that's very good. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)


I always felt Seedorf played, because he was the only box-to-box available in the team. If Ronaldinho had showed any inclination to drop back and fight for the ball (Kaka, Pato and Borriello) do it, then it would be fine. He's still in La Liga mode.

Seedorf has completely sucked attacking wise for the past 10 games or so. But in the match against Palermo, I thought it was an important role he played helping Ambro keep Liverani in check. R80 wouldn't last 10 minutes if given a job like that.

These kind of trivial things might have an impact on the match. I don't think we have a strong enough mid-field where we can free all 4 of our attackers from defensive duty. I also feel Pirlo's play improves a lot with Seedorf, since Seedorf also helps cut spaces. While if R80 is playing, then Pirlo goes back to that DM role, instead of the playmaker role.


But that's the way I see it, and my affection for Seedorf might be clouding my judgement.

I don't know which game you were watching Jack, but the one I was watching I saw Seedorf jogging around the center of the pitch everytime Palermo were on the attack. Pippo and Pato usually try to help defend better then him. I've never seen him willingly fight for balls, not even the ones he loses, and lets face it, he loses more balls then he plays in his current state of form.

I get where you're coming from in saying that he is unique to the team in what he does, personally I feel that when he does play in his position (in the midfield 3) he plays a lot better and contributes far more to the team, no matter what for he is in. But he is not an attacking mid and when he does play that high up the pitch his flaws come out 10 fold.

Dinho would be far more suited to that position, because it is HIS actual position, and I've seen him fight for balls in our matches, but no one sees those things because Dinho is always automatically labeled as lazy no matter what he does. If you have any tapes of past games one with Seedorf playing as an attacking mid and one with Dinho playing in that position, really look at what each of them bring to the game without your Clarence tinted glasses ( (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) ) and you will see that Dinho is far better suited for playing that position and we suffer when Seedorf is the one playing there.
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Seedorf is 60% certain to play while Pato is 40%

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Seedorf should be thankful Carlo is the coach. I doubt any other coach would give him more than a bench role/occasional appearances. when Carlo leaves, Seedorf's Milan career will most probably end as well. I think one more season and he's off. he can't continue playing until he's 35 anyway...

Overall I think changing the coach at the end of the season is a very good idea. Maldini and a few others will retire, and Carlo's favorites will have to step aside from the regular lineup as well meaning a mini revolution would happen which is very much needed at Milan. hope we don't waste yet another season thinking we can get anywhere like this.
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Catania - Kosicky; Silvestri, Silvestre, Stovini, Capuano; Carboni, Biagianti, Izco; Mascara; Martinez, Morimoto.

Milan - Dida; Zambrotta, Maldini, Favalli, Jankulovski; Beckham, Pirlo, Ambrosini; Seedorf; Kakà, Inzaghi.

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QUOTE (Rivaldo @ May 3 2009, 04:44 PM) *
Milan - Dida; Zambrotta, Maldini, Favalli, Jankulovski; Beckham, Pirlo, Ambrosini; Seedorf; Kakà, Inzaghi.

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No Pato, very old squad (I bet the age average is somewhere near 30). don't like it much but Forza Milan anyway.

EDIT: OMG it's 33.2 (IMG:style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif) that's probably the highest in the history of football. seriously.

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Don't have a good feeling about this game.

As expected Seedorf gets the nod over Pato or Dinho...

Typical Carlo
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No Pato, very old squad (I bet the age average is somewhere near 30). don't like it much but Forza Milan anyway.


Well i hope his fitness was a factor to leaving Pato out of the starting 11.Not because Carlo thinks Seedorf is better.



QUOTE (han2503 @ May 3 2009, 10:31 PM) *
Don't have a good feeling about this game.

As expected Seedorf gets the nod over Pato or Dinho...

Typical Carlo


Neither,i see this one as a draw.

Won't be as convincing as recent weeks

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^^^

Exactly

We're going to labour through this one. Last week the score line flattered us thanks to the penalties, this week we won't have that type of luck, we're losing Flamini's energy from that right side and he's been replaced by the rapidly declining Jankulovski, Seedorf like last week is again in the line up, set out to ruin every decent play we build up and this time the ref won't help us.

Hopefully if we're struggling by half time Carlo will get his head out of his @ss and bring on Dinho and Pato
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QUOTE (han2503 @ May 3 2009, 08:39 AM) *
Seedorf like last week is again in the line up, set out to ruin every decent play we build up and this time the ref won't help us.

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Classic 'Quote of the Week' material for sure in my eyes!

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Keep an eye on Catania striker Morimoto - he's 19 or 20 and fast. they're going to have to pay close attention to him.
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Catania hit the post...
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Catania hit the post...

you mean Zamrotta (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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Catania and Palermo use the same stadio don't they ?!?
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there pl;ayer broke his finger i think


He looks relax for someone who's broken a finger doesn't he? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)
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QUOTE (Zed.D @ May 3 2009, 09:21 AM) *
He looks relax for someone who's broken a finger doesn't he? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

...sprain? maybe
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post May 3 2009, 02:25 PM
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we need to score bcoz sonner or later catnia will park the bus
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Zed.D
post May 3 2009, 02:25 PM
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Do we have any other tactic apart from.. long balls?

Siena 2-0 Napoli (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)
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post May 3 2009, 02:26 PM
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QUOTE (TriniKing_CE @ May 3 2009, 04:55 PM) *
...sprain? maybe


Yeah that's what I thought
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post May 3 2009, 02:27 PM
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pippo scores excellent play by kaka
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post May 3 2009, 02:27 PM
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SUPER PIPPO GOAL !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Lovely play and setup by Kaka, Inzaghi finishes like the cool cat that he is!
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Pippo!
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kaka is i a mood again, nice play!
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post May 3 2009, 02:29 PM
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Pippo (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)

His awsomn form right now is the main reason we've won these past 2 games with this cr@p system. Hopefully we'll win this one (finger crossed)

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PIPPO!!!
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post May 3 2009, 02:32 PM
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another gr8 ball by kaka
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post May 3 2009, 02:39 PM
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should have scored
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That Morimoto kids needs a good kick in the @ss
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