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post Nov 24 2008, 04:55 PM
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Group E:
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Clubs        Pld   W    D    L    GF  GA   Pts
Milan         2    2    0    0    4    1    6
Wolfsburg     1    1    0    0    5    1    3
Braga         2    1    0    1    3    1    3
Portsmouth    1    0    0    1    0    3    0
Heerenveen    2    0    0    2    2    8    0


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Since no one has opened it yet I tried to take a shot at opening a match thread.

While trying to keep with the team Max set for UEFA Cup threads (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
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post Nov 24 2008, 05:02 PM
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Sheva to start this one (IMG:http://qsmile.com/qsimages/109.gif)



















... (IMG:http://qsmile.com/qsimages/253.gif)
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post Nov 24 2008, 05:13 PM
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QUOTE (zdrossoneri @ Nov 24 2008, 05:02 PM) *

Hopefully (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif)

btw, Pirlo needs to start this one and atleast play a half, he needs to get match fit pronto
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post Nov 24 2008, 05:23 PM
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I know we can't make another 1-0 win,they have Crouch & Defoe as strikers (IMG:style_emoticons/default/begging.gif)
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post Nov 24 2008, 06:38 PM
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They're an English team after all. we might find it easier to score goals [I'm not underestimating them by any means - I just think their style which is a lot different to Italian teams' will allow us to play better in attack].
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post Nov 24 2008, 07:08 PM
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QUOTE (vahid @ Nov 24 2008, 05:23 PM) *
I know we can't make another 1-0 win,they have Crouch & Defoe as strikers (IMG:style_emoticons/default/begging.gif)

Defoe is injured, I think... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

As for Crouch, I think he would give us serious problems because of his height, we tend to make the most mistakes when high balls come into our area
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Defoe was injured for the weekends game, not sure about his fitness for this one.

Anyways, I'm hoping for a destruction, Redknapp didn't leave there long ago so they still have Dirty Harrys germs, kill them I say!
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post Nov 24 2008, 07:30 PM
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QUOTE (zdrossoneri @ Nov 24 2008, 10:38 PM) *
They're an English team after all. we might find it easier to score goals [I'm not underestimating them by any means - I just think their style which is a lot different to Italian teams' will allow us to play better in attack].

Judging our current plight, I'd find it hard to underestimate anything. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) Least of all opponent teams, and that too from England that we know nothing of. It's not like they're someone from the league, where players are aware of the opponents skills and faults. It'll be a tough match. Period.

You'd find it's better for your health, zd, when you take each match as a tough mountain to climb. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) I do, and it works wonders, really. I go in thinking it'll be the toughest match of our lives, and guess what, it usually is. Been the story of the season so far. And could continue unless we see drastic improvements. Or unlimited supply of luck. Or both.
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post Nov 24 2008, 07:41 PM
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Porthsmouth hasn't been the same ever since Harry Redknapp left, but we should be aware of them. Hardest UEFA Cup match so far for sure. I'd say we'll play a goalless draw.
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QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Nov 24 2008, 07:41 PM) *
Porthsmouth hasn't been the same ever since Harry Redknapp left, but we should be aware of them. Hardest UEFA Cup match so far for sure. I'd say we'll play a goalless draw.

I think Wolfsburg will be our toughest match.

AS for Portsmouth, apperantly there have already been some complaints from our officials about the changing rooms at Fratton Park. Apparently they're a disaster, with mildew running along the seiling because of a leak they had when it rained
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post Nov 24 2008, 08:40 PM
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Portmouth rose up a few divisions fairly quickly. So they're basically an EPL team with League 1 grade facilities, not nice.
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Crouch will seek revenge for Athens. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) Senderos should keep him away from Dida.

Difficult match. A draw makes sense. 1:1 with Sheva scoring of course.
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I think a Shevchenko - Inzaghi partnership is the right combo upfront. Ronaldinho in support and Pirlo along with Ringo and Flamini
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post Nov 25 2008, 07:13 AM
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QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Nov 24 2008, 10:17 PM) *
I think a Shevchenko - Inzaghi partnership is the right combo upfront. Ronaldinho in support and Pirlo along with Ringo and Flamini

I think Kaka should play this one since he's suspended on the weekend and let Dinho get some rest, at least he should start on the bench imo.

Pirlo and Seedorf should trade a half each, so Pirlo get's match time but doesn't over do it. Maybe start Emerson instead of Gattuso, he's earned some rest.

Senderos and Bonera should start in the middle, no more Kaladze pls
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i'd rather we play well and win on the weekend, a draw will suffice.
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QUOTE (han2503 @ Nov 25 2008, 06:13 AM) *
I think Kaka should play this one since he's suspended on the weekend and let Dinho get some rest, at least he should start on the bench imo.

Pirlo and Seedorf should trade a half each, so Pirlo get's match time but doesn't over do it. Maybe start Emerson instead of Gattuso, he's earned some rest.

Senderos and Bonera should start in the middle, no more Kaladze pls

agreed
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QUOTE (han2503 @ Nov 25 2008, 09:13 AM) *
I think Kaka should play this one since he's suspended on the weekend and let Dinho get some rest, at least he should start on the bench imo.

Pirlo and Seedorf should trade a half each, so Pirlo get's match time but doesn't over do it. Maybe start Emerson instead of Gattuso, he's earned some rest.

Senderos and Bonera should start in the middle, no more Kaladze pls


didn't know Kaka' was suspended for the next league game .. Well, in that case then yeah Ronnie needs a rest. and about the Swiss, I hope he shows as solid a performance as he did in the last UEFA match.
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as always i hope we win ofc but i would like us to come out of this match with no injurys so we can be fresh for Palermo and so on in !!

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I wonder whether Kaka's absence from the Palermo game will be a blow for us [not having such a quality player who, even when not in his best day, can decide a game] or a blessing in disguise [we could play with two strikers].

Hope to see Pato in that game at least, preferably alongside Borriello.
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QUOTE (zdrossoneri @ Nov 25 2008, 02:19 PM) *
I wonder whether Kaka's absence from the Palermo game will be a blow for us [not having such a quality player who, even when not in his best day, can decide a game] or a blessing in disguise [we could play with two strikers].

Hope to see Pato in that game at least, preferably alongside Borriello.

the worst scernio though could be that seedorf and r80 behind one stiker
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QUOTE (CrazyMilanFan @ Nov 25 2008, 04:08 PM) *
the worst scernio though could be that seedorf and r80 behind one stiker

And most probable..

btw. this us the UEFA cup thread,..

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QUOTE (CrazyMilanFan @ Nov 25 2008, 06:38 PM) *
the worst scernio though could be that seedorf and r80 behind one stiker


Yeah, we can be sure about unlocking Palermo's defense with such attack (IMG:style_emoticons/default/puke.gif)
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Palermo conceeded 18 goals so far, which is more then every other team above them at moment. That enough means we'll score most likely. Only question is if we'll struggle back in the defense once again. Is Kaladze suspended now?
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QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Nov 25 2008, 05:16 PM) *
Palermo conceeded 18 goals so far, which is more then every other team above them at moment. That enough means we'll score most likely. Only question is if we'll struggle back in the defense once again. Is Kaladze suspended now?

Uefa thread (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) just kidding i dont think kaladze will be suspended i hope he plays this game and break a bone or 2
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QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Nov 25 2008, 06:16 PM) *
Palermo conceeded 18 goals so far, which is more then every other team above them at moment. That enough means we'll score most likely. Only question is if we'll struggle back in the defense once again. Is Kaladze suspended now?

We've played teams who have been conceeding bucket loads of goals and we strill struggle to score a single goal against them.

As for Kaladze, sadly I don't think he's suspended, so expect to see him on the pitch against Palermo (IMG:style_emoticons/default/puke.gif)

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QUOTE (CrazyMilanFan @ Nov 25 2008, 10:30 PM) *
Uefa thread just kidding i dont think kaladze will be suspended i hope he plays this game and break a bone or 2

Or 2 dozen. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)
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post Nov 25 2008, 06:44 PM
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If Emo plays on thursday (or sunday) then i refuse to watch any more games till january
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QUOTE (whoarethepatriots @ Nov 25 2008, 10:44 PM) *
If Emo plays on thursday (or sunday) then i refuse to watch any more games till january

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We'll miss you then, buddy. There is more chance of Milan going to Serie D3 than Emerson not playing in any of these matches. I'd prepare for the worse, if I were you. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) He will play. FACT.
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QUOTE (whoarethepatriots @ Nov 25 2008, 06:44 PM) *
If Emo plays on thursday (or sunday) then i refuse to watch any more games till january

I personally have no problems with him playing UEFA Cup games along side Pirlo/Seedorf and another DM (give Rino some time to rest)

But as far as Serie A goes, he shouldn't even be called up for the matches
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Anyone else going to this match? My ticket come through today (IMG:style_emoticons/default/devilsmiley.gif)
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QUOTE (I_Rossoneri @ Nov 25 2008, 06:53 PM) *
Anyone else going to this match? My ticket come through today (IMG:style_emoticons/default/devilsmiley.gif)

to far from nottingham specially when UNI si at peak time i am afraid (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
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Milan squad: Abbiati, Dida, Kalac, Antonini, Bonera, Darmian, Favalli, Kaladze, Senderos, Zambrotta, Ambrosini, Emerson, Flamini, Gattuso, Pirlo, Seedorf, Inzaghi, Kaka, Pato, Shevchenko, Ronaldinho
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QUOTE (acid911 @ Nov 25 2008, 10:24 PM) *
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We'll miss you then, buddy. There is more chance of Milan going to Serie D3 than Emerson not playing in any of these matches.


(IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) great!

As for Kaladze I have to make a BIG confession. I like the guy. I think he's solid in big games (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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QUOTE (zdrossoneri @ Nov 26 2008, 03:25 AM) *
As for Kaladze I have to make a BIG confession. I like the guy. I think he's solid in big games

You're not alone. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) I don't like the guy one bit, but even I have to admit he has a quality-to-craptality ratio of 51:49. Meaning out of hundred, Kaladze will be good in two more matches than he'll be crap. So yeah, he can stay in the club, unless we find someone really good, then we should dump him. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) Without thinking, twice.
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QUOTE (I_Rossoneri @ Nov 25 2008, 06:53 PM) *
Anyone else going to this match? My ticket come through today (IMG:style_emoticons/default/devilsmiley.gif)


Have a great time buddy and make as much noise as u can (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) !!!!!!!!!!!! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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I would like to see Pippo and Sheva from the very first minute, if they score they go up in UEFA goals competition, the rest is not so interesting, AC Milan will pass the group leg.
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QUOTE (I_Rossoneri @ Nov 25 2008, 07:53 PM) *
Anyone else going to this match? My ticket come through today (IMG:style_emoticons/default/devilsmiley.gif)


ouuuuuuuuuu
how would I like to be there, to far and so expensive from my country, (IMG:style_emoticons/default/innocent.gif)
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QUOTE (I_Rossoneri @ Nov 25 2008, 06:53 PM) *
Anyone else going to this match? My ticket come through today (IMG:style_emoticons/default/devilsmiley.gif)

Where did you get the ticket from dude?
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Galliani's latest bullsh1t:

... 4-2-4 o un 4-1-5..."

(for those who are wondering what that is, Baldy's talking about our formation! he sees 4-3-2-1 as a 4-2-4 or a 4-1-5 (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) dig? we can't even score goals with 5 strikers on the pitch (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) )
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QUOTE (zdrossoneri @ Nov 26 2008, 12:21 PM) *
Galliani's latest bullsh1t:

... 4-2-4 o un 4-1-5..."

(for those who are wondering what that is, Baldy's talking about our formation! he sees 4-3-2-1 as a 4-2-4 or a 4-1-5 (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) dig? we can't even score goals with 5 strikers on the pitch (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) )

Oh so Pirlo has now turned into a striker also along with Seedorf, Kaka and Dinho? Galliani is pushing the term 'old and senail' to it's limits I'm afraid.

As for tomorrows match, apperantly Gazzetta was predicting this formation a couple of days ago


Dida

Zambrotta-Bonera-Favalli-Antonini

Flamini-Emerson-Ambrosini

Kaka

Shevchenko-Inzaghi


That midfield makes me want to (IMG:style_emoticons/default/puke.gif)

Pirlo needs to play at least a half, we need him to be sharp for the game against Palermo, at least give him a half and switch him with Seedorf.

And Senderos should start this one imo, give him some games Carlo!!

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Uh-oh, the old stupid version of Galliani is back. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) Too bad the good one didn't last through the year.
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I couldn't resist putting such hilarious quote in my sig (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) Galliani is nearly a laugh.

QUOTE (han2503)
That midfield makes me want to (IMG:style_emoticons/default/puke.gif)


I don't think it's gonna be that. at least I hope not... 3 DMs? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)
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QUOTE (I_Rossoneri @ Nov 25 2008, 06:53 PM) *
Anyone else going to this match? My ticket come through today (IMG:style_emoticons/default/devilsmiley.gif)

unless you can pay for my flight, i'll play for the match tickets (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

enjoy the game!

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I was thinking about heading down south, but my day is too full on Thursday, there is no way i would have been able to make it

Plus i am a broke student, so thats another deterrent (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
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Where did you get the ticket from dude?


http://www.1st4footballtickets.com/tickets...sp?EventId=5780

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Training took place at Fratton park and finished just under a hour ago...it consisted of warm up then short sprints and then abdominal work.

A team meeting took place with Mr.Ancelotti follwed by offensive moves and various shapes (formations)

Senderos took part in all training

Tomorrow short work out and strecthing at mid-day in preperation for tomorrows game followed by light lunch...the team will arrive at the ground at around 19.00hours

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QUOTE (I_Rossoneri @ Nov 25 2008, 09:53 PM) *
Anyone else going to this match? My ticket come through today (IMG:style_emoticons/default/devilsmiley.gif)


Cool enjoy the match (IMG:style_emoticons/default/devil.gif)

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QUOTE (zdrossoneri @ Nov 26 2008, 03:04 PM) *
I couldn't resist putting such hilarious quote in my sig (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) Galliani is nearly a laugh.



I don't think it's gonna be that. at least I hope not... 3 DMs? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

Well we've gone out with 4 DMs before so I wouldn't put it past Carlo (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

That was the team Carlo played with in training btw, so it's not just Gazzetta taking a shot in the dark and guessing a starting 11.

Hopefully one of Seedorf/Pirlo will play instead of Puma since Ambro is back

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Anyone else going to this match? My ticket come through today (IMG:style_emoticons/default/devilsmiley.gif)

Have fun!! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Where have you been mate?

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Wednesday 26 November, 2008

Portsmouth goalkeeper David James believes tomorrow's game against Milan is the biggest in the club's history.

While the Rossoneri have picked up six points from six in UEFA Cup Group E so far, Portsmouth are looking to bounce back from last month's 3-0 defeat against Braga.

“I'm on the eve of one of Portsmouth's biggest days,” England 'keeper James told Sky Sports News.

“When I joined the club this is what I wanted to do - make history. This is possibly the biggest fixture ever at Fratton Park.

“Tomorrow will be something to remember for Portsmouth players and supporters.

“We won't be overawed because this is the sort of challenge we look forward to.”

Carlo Ancelotti is expected to make significant changes to his side for the testing away day.

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Where did you get the ticket from dude?

I think he'd said something earlier about kneecaps and wet cement. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
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I can't imagine the English media's stories about how bad Serie A sucks if we lose this game.
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You guys know not to take my inner Dida fangirl seriously about 99% of the time, but I've been anticipating this match since it was announced because this may be his last chance to stick it to an English team and shut the press up, especially in the aftermath of the Celtic incident.
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You guys know not to take my inner Dida fangirl seriously about 99% of the time, but I've been anticipating this match since it was announced because this may be his last chance to stick it to an English team and shut the press up, especially in the aftermath of the Celtic incident.

Unfortunately it's a no win situation for Italian football. Unless Milan win comfortabley and really do play them off the park, otherwise people will just be saying Pompey are nearly as good as Milan, or better, if they beat them. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
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I hope we don't go there to defend! if we attack [like we have not all season so far!] we can win, I'm certain of it!
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QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Nov 26 2008, 09:01 PM) *
Cool enjoy the match (IMG:style_emoticons/default/devil.gif)

Don't forget you souvenirs (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)


Hopefully I will (IMG:style_emoticons/default/devilsmiley.gif)

And I'll try and get some pics posted up a.s.a.p.
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Fashionable Milan visit down-at-heel Portsmouth, and the contrast between the two could hardly be greater


The face of Carlo Ancelotti, the Milan coach, wore the uncertain half-smile of the embarrassed. It was as if he suspected that an awful practical joke was being played upon him. Ancelotti, visiting Fratton Park yesterday to prepare for this evening's Uefa Cup tie against Portsmouth, might have wondered why he had been brought to an ugly piece of architectural memorabilia when he had told the driver he wanted to be taken to Portsmouth Football Club.

He was diplomacy itself, choosing his words carefully, like someone eating mackerel and feeling for the bones. "It's a good club," he said defiantly. "It's an old school English ground. The pitch looks good. We are used to travelling and getting on with things."

Fratton Park, which every Southampton supporter will tell you is, spelt backwards, "nottarf krap," is the sort of stadium that encourages visitors to wipe their feet on departure. Ancelotti's shoes twitched, as if in a hurry to transport their owner from the premises as quickly as possible. Milan, after all, is the fashion capital of an almost neurotically fashion-conscious country.

Fratton Park, the Gulag Archipelago of the Premier League, is situated close to the Portsmouth mudflats, in the middle of the hunched houses and tight streets of a busy community and its distance from Milan's San Siro is best measured in light years. The Italian club has lifted the European Cup on seven occasions. The San Siro can hold 80,000; the official capacity here is 20,000.

This is the smallest stadium in the Premier League and was built in 1898, the year singer Gracie ("Sally") Fields and western film star Randolph Scott were also born. WG Grace was still batting, Queen Victoria was on the throne.

They played an Olympic Games football match here in 1948 - they did the same thing at Brighton's Goldstone Ground, which has since been knocked down.

Fratton Park now has the look of a cowshed on life support, though many of the club's supporters remain fiercely loyal to the place and a terrific atmosphere can be generated when the Pompey Chimes are in the evening air.

"They have a good record at home - they play better at home," added Ancelotti, before revealing that Kaka would start tonight and Ronaldinho would be on the bench against a Portsmouth without Jermain Defoe, Sol Campbell, John Utaka and Lassana Diarra.

Then there was the Chelsea misfit Andriy Shevchenko, who Ancelotti also plans to play. Shevchenko scored just nine Premier League goals in his two years at Stamford Bridge but the coach said: "He is one of the best strikers in the world. Chelsea paid for a quality striker but it didn't work out. He wasn't able to express himself to his full extent as a striker at Chelsea." Chelsea, he said, played with only three forwards and Shevchenko wasn't a winger and was never going to replace Didier Drogba.

Tonight, the Milan players might be more worried about expressing themselves in the notoriously small changing rooms. "They will be in for a bit of a shock," said the Pompey goalkeeper David James before they arrived. "It is a proper, and I mean proper, throwback."

There have been many brave new dusks for Portsmouth supporters. In the 1970s the then chairman John Deacon planned to build a new ground on the old city airfield and a couple of decades later Jim Gregory got planning permission to erect a stadium on the St Johns Playing Fields in Farlington, though this was thrown out because the area was a grazing ground for Brent geese.

When Milan Mandaric rescued the club from bankruptcy in 1999 he too promised a new ground. But Pompey supporters were still grazing at Fratton Park when he left the club in 2006. Then, last year, there was talk of a sensational £600m new stadium on Portsmouth's waterfront, a bowl-shaped ground surrounded by 1,500 luxury flats and an "urban beach". AC Milan, who have only beaten one English club on English soil in 12 attempts - Manchester United in 2005 - might have felt comfortable in such surroundings. Having won their first two matches in this competition, though, they are virtually through to the last 32.

This week Portsmouth manager Tony Adams described the fixture as "Portsmouth's biggest game of all time", and "the most prestigious game this club will ever play". Yesterday he sounded a little more downbeat. "Don't 'big it' too much," he implored. "It's about three points. It's feet-on-the-floor time. I don't care what Milan think about Fratton Park."

James, who seemed to have read Adams' earlier script, said yesterday: "We've got to play up the occasion. That is what football people want. They will be talking about this match for years to come, whatever the result."

Another James, Henry James, said rather harshly: "Portsmouth is dirty but it is also dull," when he visited the place in 1879 - and that was 19 years before Fratton Park was built.

Worlds apart - how they compare

Stadium

Milan They call the 85,700-seat San Siro home. They share it with Internazionale and Jose Mourinho

Pompey Planning to leave Fratton Park and its mock tudor facade despite not having to share it with a rival team and a moody Portuguese

Board

Milan Owner Silvio Berlusconi was elected prime minister, so Adriano Galliani is assisted by Berlusconi's younger brother, Paolo

Pompey At the time Alexandre Gaydamak bought the club there was an international arrest warrant issued for his father, Arcadi for alleged arms smuggling that he denies

Managers

Milan Two European Cups, a league title and an Italian Cup under Carlo Ancelotti, the fifth man to win the European Cup as a player and a coach

Pompey Wycombe Wanderers were relegated from League One in 2004 after Tony Adams took over

Most capped

Paolo Maldini

The five-time European Cup winner made 126 appearances for Italy between 1988 and 2002

Sol Campbell

Six consecutive tournaments for England. The last of his 73 caps came under Steve McClaren

Talisman

Milan Kaka is a World Cup and Champions League winner and the current European player of the year

Pompey Veteran goalkeeper David James has been the club's player of the season for the past two years. No longer referred to as 'Calamity'

Honours

Pompey

Two Football League Championship titles, two FA cups, one Charity Shield and two Hampshire charity cups

Milan

Seventeen Serie A championships (Scudetta), five Italian cups, five Italian Super Cups, seven European Cups, five Uefa Super Cups, two European Cup Winners cups, three Intercontinental Cups and one Club World Cup



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ANDRIY SHEVCHENKO
"Andriy has paid for the two years in which he played little. When he came to us he worked a lot and now he has found a good condition. Tomorrow I think we can play well. At Chelsea he suffered from the fact that they play with just one striker, Drogba, and two wingers. And he certainly isn't a winger. He was paid for what he was worth at the time, he was one of the strongest strikers in the world, then it's true, his performances did not live up to expectations."


Carlo played Sheva as a winger against Braga at San Siro... what is he talking about?!
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My prediction is 3-0 to AC Milan!
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1-0 is my prediction Sheva goal
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Carlo played Sheva as a winger against Braga at San Siro... what is he talking about?!

I believe there was a serie a game this season as well...anyway - who cares?!
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I wish Sheva can finally score again too.
I really hope he plays well, I still believe he has it in him!
Whether or not - FORZA Sheva 4Eva!
Our Ukrainian Legend!!! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/devilsmiley.gif)
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Its taking unusually long for milan official site to post up the lineups! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

EDIT: Ohh - I didn't realise the game was around 30min later than usual (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blush.gif)

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Game doesn't start until after 12pm. ****.
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PORTSMOUTH: James, Jonhnson, Kaboul, Distin, Traorè; Bouba Diop, Little, Hughes, Belhadjd; Crouch, Kanu.

MILAN: Dida, Zambrotta, Senderos, Favalli, Antonini; Gattuso, Emerson, Flamini, Kakà, Sheva, Inzaghi.


2 Strikers (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
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No Pirlo? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)

okay - line up otherwise I guess! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/96.gif)
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That midfield just made me (IMG:style_emoticons/default/puke.gif) a little in my mouth
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3 DM (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif)
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And why the hell is Emerson starting? If Carlo's playing for a goalless draw, I swear I'll slap the bejesus out of him myself.
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I like this defensive line.
Maybe Senderos shows something special!
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QUOTE (han2503 @ Nov 27 2008, 03:43 PM) *
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QUOTE (CrazyMilanFan @ Nov 27 2008, 03:44 PM) *



QUOTE (MizNelson @ Nov 27 2008, 03:44 PM) *
And why the hell is Emerson starting? If Carlo's playing for a goalless draw, I swear I'll slap the bejesus out of him myself.

MORE Reason why I ask - why didn't Pirlo start. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

Anyway, I am hopefull that it will work! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) *fingers crossed* (IMG:style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)
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players coming on
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game started
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They are being a bit brutal, they've fouled our players numerous times so far
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FK let see who takes it sheva i think
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that one a gr8 chance missed
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OH!!!

What a chance, Sheva freekick, squirms it's way through the wall falls into the path of one of our players who are free to shoot in front of the net, it hits the post and James manages to grab onto it
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HOW???
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and the player was piipo
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and the player was piipo

Yep just saw the replay now, how could he miss that??? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif)
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Yep just saw the replay now, how could he miss that??? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif)

i dotn want to comment on pippo but TBH i dont like him and we extended his contract
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How many sitters have Pippo and Shev missed so far this season?
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our defence slept their
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That's why I don't want to see this coach in Milan anymore. simply disgraceful.
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How many sitters have Pippo and Shev missed so far this season?

sheva 1
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Ahh - Sheva didn't manage to connect properly there on the volley!
Maybe a bit too ambitious!
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If Seedorf or Pirlo don't come into the match after half time I'm going to personally fly to Italy and strangle Carlo
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QUOTE (han2503 @ Nov 27 2008, 11:28 PM) *
If Seedorf or Pirlo don't come into the match after half time I'm going to personally fly to Italy and strangle Carlo

I wanna see that (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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QUOTE (CrazyMilanFan @ Nov 28 2008, 01:26 AM) *
emerson is not worth milan

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QUOTE (han2503 @ Nov 27 2008, 09:28 PM) *
If Seedorf or Pirlo don't come into the match after half time I'm going to personally fly to Italy and strangle Carlo


That's going right into my sig.

EDIT: No it isn't, as that makes it too long. Damn.

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kaka is playing gud flamini,antonini are trying while sheva is trying to much
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favilli WOW
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piipo chip over
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They're looking like the more likely team to score (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

Looks like the DMs aren't as water tight as you think they are, are they Carlo?
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Pippo 1-on-1, all he has to do is lift it for an easy goal, and he hits it over the bar. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
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For the second time Inzaghi hits the bar
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