[Fillipo Simone]

This is a must win match. I see no possible problems for us,..

[Rossoneri7]

Yes, we should win this fixture ! But u got the date wrong there .. It's 07 (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

[Fillipo Simone]

Yes, we should win this fixture ! But u got the date wrong there .. It's 07 (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

Ooops,... (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/blush.gif) ,...

[Ry4n]

Gila i predict will open the scoring folowed by goals from Seedorf and Pirlo

[Bluesummers]

dida-oddo-nesta-kaladze-janku-pirlo-gattuso-ambro-seedorf-kaka-gila

2-1. hopefully the flop scores.

[Fillipo Simone]

dida-oddo-nesta-kaladze-janku-pirlo-gattuso-ambro-seedorf-kaka-gila

2-1.  hopefully the flop scores.

Ronaldo should be fit for this one. I expect us to win with at least two goals and a clean sheet.

[Tennie]

Those of you who want to see Gourcuff may just get their chance for this game. I think he may be given a start or almost certainly come in as a sub. Pirlo picked up a knock in the second half of the Italy-France game yesterday and didn't train today.

[Zed.D]

Last season Siena gave us a very tough time in this encounter I remember. I don't consider our next week's game that easy. but hopefully we'll get the result we want. 1-3 for Milan. Kaka among the scorers.

[kurtsimonw]

Statistically, I think this is going to be Kaka's best year in the league. Especially with Ronnie out even longer, I can see him getting around 15 League goals.

Siena 1-3 Milan. Kaka' (2) + Gila

[misha]

Should be a comfortable win. 2:0

[Zed.D]

Statistically, I think this is going to be Kaka's best year in the league. Especially with Ronnie out even longer, I can see him getting around 15 League goals.

Let's hope he won't score every single goal from the penalty spot! (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

[dst]

Let's hope he won't score every single goal from the penalty spot!  (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

No, let's hope he scores ALL the penalty-kicks he takes! (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

[Fillipo Simone]

No, let's hope he scores ALL the penalty-kicks he takes! (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

Why did Pirlo stop to take them anyway?

[han2503]

No, let's hope he scores ALL the penalty-kicks he takes! (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

Definately, he used to have a 100% record from the spot but he's missing quite a few these days.

Why did Pirlo stop to take them anyway?

He missed a couple and lost his confidence. Then Sheva started taking them and Kaka was his automatic replacement when he wasn't playing and then when he left

[mishie]

with Siena's form as it is the only problem could be how the players react from the internationals. but are squad is good enough to cope.
0-2 with Gila and Kaka scoring (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

[misha]

Definately, he used to have a 100% record from the spot but he's missing quite a few these days.
He missed a couple and lost his confidence. Then Sheva started taking them and Kaka was his automatic replacement when he wasn't playing and then when he left

Kaka or Pirlo it doesn't matter. As long as it's not Seedorf (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

[dst]

Kaka or Pirlo it doesn't matter. As long as it's not Seedorf  (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

As long as it's not a Dutch I might say...

[misha]

As long as it's not a Dutch I might say...

Or English (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

But Seedorf is especially bad at it.

This post has been edited by mishale: Sep 9 2007, 09:49 PM

[Fillipo Simone]

Or English  (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

But Seedorf is especially bad at it.

They are all especially bad about penalty kicks. Funny how Clarence did scored against Liverpool were Pirlo and Sheva both missed out.

Did Clarence score against Italy in that Euro 2000 semi?

[Tennie]

No, he didn't take one in the Euro 2000 semi. Kluivert was the only Dutch player to score his penalty.

[Darunia]

I'm interested to see Grimi play, he's started the first two games for Siena so far.

Luca Castellazzi punched away a long free kick from Milan-owned defender Leandro Grimi.

Hah, I didn't know Grimi could take free kicks (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)

This post has been edited by Darunia: Sep 10 2007, 01:03 AM

[KillerMax]

I'm interested to see Grimi play, he's started the first two games for Siena so far.

Was he any good?

[Darunia]

I haven't seen Siena's games yet.. we'll see how he does against Milan (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

[KillerMax]

I haven't seen Siena's games yet.. we'll see how he does against Milan (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

Hopefully there is not a clause in his contract that prevents him from playing against Milan.

[Tennie]

I don't think those clauses are common in Italy like they are in England.

I saw Roma-Siena. Grimi played rather well, I thought. Datasport gave him a 6.5, which is a pretty good rating for a defender whose team conceded 3.

[Rossoneri7]

Grimi is a first team player for Siena ... So he is gaining on Serie A experience, that is the only thing that matters atm.

[MizNelson]

Ronaldo should be fit for this one. I expect us to win with at least two goals and a clean sheet.

Wrongo. Ronaldo's going to be in Brazil for awhile. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

[Portman]

Don't mind the result as long as we get the 3 points.

[Jack Sparrow]

^^^^
You'd think Mourinho and Porty were from the same family tree and shared identical genetic structures. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

Go Gila....

This post has been edited by Jack Sparrow: Sep 10 2007, 04:38 AM

[KillerMax]

^^^^
You'd think Mourinho and Porty were from the same family tree and shared identical genetic structures. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

Go Gila....

If Gila doesn't score, you going down biatch!

[Bluesummers]

If Gila doesn't score, you going down biatch!

haha (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) oh you know it (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/devilsmiley.gif)

This post has been edited by Bluesummers: Sep 10 2007, 05:13 AM

[Fillipo Simone]

Wrongo. Ronaldo's going to be in Brazil for awhile.  (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

Yep, I know. That's very disturbing,..

[Ry4n]

i hope he'll be back for Lazio game

[misha]

C4 preview

Last season Ronaldo was the star of the show with his first goals for Milan in a thrilling 4-3 away victory, but Il Fenomeno won’t be at the Stadio Franchi after a return to Brazil ruled him out for a month.

The Rossoneri have not been able to field the South American at all so far this term and it looks as if they will have to make do without him for a while longer. With Alberto Gilardino continuing to misfire, Pippo Inzaghi giving his best in Europe and Alexandre Pato ineligible until January, Carlo Ancelotti has some tough choices to make.

Their Champions League campaign kicks off on Tuesday against Manuel Rui Costa’s Benfica and they cannot afford another Serie A slip after their 1-1 with Fiorentina. Kaka looks set to take a more pro-active role in support of Gila along with Clarence Seedorf, resting the veteran Inzaghi for the continental competition. Paolo Maldini and Serginho are the other long-term absentees.

Siena are among the favourites to go down this season and two consecutive defeats are not a promising start. Coach Andrea Mandorlini aims to stick with his favoured 4-3-3 system that, although attacking in theory, has given them just one goal in favour and five against. Their record against Milan in this fixture is no more reassuring with one win in April 2005 and three losses.

Enrico Chiesa again seems destined for the bench despite the poor form of Massimo Maccarone and Mario Frick, while Roma youth product Daniele Corvia is bound to feature as a substitute in the second half when legs are tiring. Valerio Bertotto is sidelined with a muscular problem, but Milan-owned Argentine defender Leandro Grimi gets the chance to shine against the club that sent him out on loan.

Keep an eye on: Paul Codrea (Siena) – The midfielder’s powerful free kicks from distance can spring a surprise on a shaky-looking Nelson Dida.

Last season: Siena 3-4 Milan

Form guide: Siena (- - - L L) Milan (- - - W D)

Siena (probable): Manninger; Alberto, Portanova, Loria, Grimi; Vergassola, Codrea, Galloppa; Frick, Maccarone, De Ceglie

Milan (probable): Dida; Oddo, Nesta, Kaladze, Jankulovski; Gattuso, Pirlo, Ambrosini; Kaka, Seedorf; Gilardino

[arivanjj]

a shaky-looking Nelson Dida.

(IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

[Nova]

Gilardino is gonna play ?? There will be bottles flying at the Milan club again (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

If we win , kaka or seedorf are gonna score.

[han2503]

I would personally go for this team, seeing as not all the players had to play in Internationals and it will be against Siena. And since we have the CL game on Tuesday it would be better to try and rotate as many players as we can without disrupting the team too much

Favalli--Bonera--Nesta--Cafu
--Brocchi--Emerson--Yoann--
--------Kaka--Seedorf--------
-------------Gila----------------


Basically the guys that didn't play in international games should play this game, Kaka should still play since he only played a friendly with Brazil, but others like Pirlo, Rino, Amdro, Oddo and Janku should definately not play.

Gila is a definate starter in this one since we need Pippo for Tuesday's game

This post has been edited by han2503: Sep 13 2007, 09:39 PM

[Tennie]

Actually, Kaka's the one I'd rest, if we're going to rest anyone. He played most of two friendlies on another continent. The flight from Boston to Milan is a lot longer than that from Kiev to Milan.

[han2503]

Actually, Kaka's the one I'd rest, if we're going to rest anyone. He played most of two friendlies on another continent. The flight from Boston to Milan is a lot longer than that from Kiev to Milan.

If we rest Kaka we'd have to play with trikers and Seedorf behind them and since Gila and Pippo are our only available stikers, I would rather play Kaka

[Rossoneri7]

If we rest Kaka we'd have to play with trikers and Seedorf behind them and since Gila and Pippo are our only available stikers, I would rather play Kaka

I think play Kaka' and bring in Janku later on or Sergio to give the team wider dimensions .. But Emerson should start, though I wouldn't be surprised if Ringo played this game (Who would (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) )

[KillerMax]

Based on what I have read so far on acmilan.com, here is what I think the line up will look like:

--Bonera---Nesta--Kaladze---Favalli--
------------------Pirlo--------------------
---------Emerson----Ambrosini--------
--------------------Seedorf-------------
--------------Kaka----------------------
-------------------Inzaghi---------------

Kaladze will start because he returned early. Bonera is likely to start at RB where he did well against Kiev. Gatttuso is gonna rest I think. I can not see Ancelotti starting Gourcuff. Inzaghi is in better form than Gila and that's why I think Ancelotti will pick him.

This post has been edited by pKillerMax: Sep 14 2007, 01:46 AM

[MizNelson]

The midfielder’s powerful free kicks from distance can spring a surprise on a shaky-looking Nelson Dida.

[expletive] you, Channel Bore. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/mad.gif)

[han2503]

I think play Kaka' and bring in Janku later on or Sergio to give the team wider dimensions .. But Emerson should start, though I wouldn't be surprised if Ringo played this game (Who would (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) )

Is Sergio even available? If he was I would be tempted to play him alongside Seedorf and rest Kaka. And if things don't go well we could always put on Kaka.

Based on what I have read so far on acmilan.com, here is what I think the line up will look like:

--Bonera---Nesta--Kaladze---Favalli--
------------------Pirlo--------------------
---------Emerson----Ambrosini--------
--------------------Seedorf-------------
--------------Kaka----------------------
-------------------Inzaghi---------------

Kaladze will start because he returned early. Bonera is likely to start at RB where he did well against Kiev. Gatttuso is gonna rest I think. I can not see Ancelotti starting Gourcuff. Inzaghi is in better form than Gila and that's why I think Ancelotti will pick him.

I really hope this won't be the team that plays against Siena, they are doing pretty bad at the moment and I think that the team I wrote above would be enough. And if not we could always change it up in the second half if we can't break them down.

Most of our starters came back from internationals and we are about to face a very difficuilt schedule, so we need to rotate as much as we can, especially Pippo and Pirlo, we need to make sure that Pirlo's form doesn't dip and Pippo doesn't get injured especially since Ronaldo's problem doesn't look like it's about to get resolved anytime soon.

And Yoann NEEDS to play games like this, and Carlo needs to understand that, otherwise we're just wasting all his talent

[Fillipo Simone]

Kaladze will start because he returned early. Bonera is likely to start at RB where he did well against Kiev.

Bonera as RB,...here we go again. Oh no, please,... (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

[Zed.D]

Gourcuff and Emerson will definitely start tomorrow because Pirlo and Kaka are not called up for this game:

GOALKEEPERS: Dida, Fiori, Kalac;
DEFENDERS: Bonera, Cafu, Digao, Favalli, Jankulovski, Kaladze, Nesta, Simic;
MIDFIELDERS: Ambrosini, Brocchi, Emerson, Gattuso, Gourcuff, Seedorf;
STRIKERS: Aubameyang, Gilardino, Inzaghi

[dst]

YES!! Yoann... amaze them boy!!!!! (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/devil.gif)

[misha]

GOALKEEPERS: Dida, Fiori, Kalac;
DEFENDERS: Bonera, Cafu, Digao, Favalli, Jankulovski, Kaladze, Nesta, Simic;
MIDFIELDERS: Ambrosini, Brocchi, Emerson, Gattuso, Gourcuff, Seedorf;
STRIKERS: Aubameyang, Gilardino, Inzaghi

I'd go with:

--Cafu-----Nesta-------Bonera---Favalli--
------------------Emerson--------------------
---------Gattuso-----------Brocchi-------------
--------------Seedorf--Gourcuff-------------
-------------------Inzaghi---------------

Pippo and Rino haven't played on Wednesday. All the others rested the whole week. So it's fresh and strong enough for Siena. Pippo should be subed after 55-60 minutes to save him for Benfica.

[dst]

--Bonera-----Nesta-----Simic-----Favalli--
------------------Emerson--------------------
---------Gattuso-----------Brocchi-------------
--------------Seedorf--Gourcuff-------------
------------------Gilardino---------------

... for me. I don't even consider Cafu as a real weapon in our arsenal anymore!

[dst]

GRIMI: "I want to win this game"
9/14/2007
MILAN - Leandro Grimi on the official site of siena speaks about the next league against Milan: "Yes it's a bit strange for me to play against Milan, but now I am at Siena and want to win this game."

I like his attitude!

GOURCUFF: "I hope to play"
9/14/2007
MILANELLO - Tomorrow at Siena Yoann Gourcuff might play and the French player commented this way: "Carlo Ancelotti has not yet annoucned the starting line-up, but I hope to play. If it will be so, I hope to show all my qualities. With the national team I picked up a knock to my foot but now I'm fine. I have a great desire to impose myself in this team and show all of my talent."

We hope for the same thing! Please Carlo... do not disappoint us all!

[KillerMax]

Just imagine how hard it would be on Gourcuff if he only got to come on at the last 10 minutes for us tomorrow.... That would be a huge slap in the face for him...

[Nova]

Just imagine how hard it would be on Gourcuff if he only got to come on at the last 10 minutes for us tomorrow.... That would be a huge slap in the face for him...

Even if he plays , it will be without kaka & pirlo. And defence wont be the best either.

So it's not fair to play him in a game where he needs to double his effort to make a move , especially when you have someone like Gilardino up front.

(IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) A real shame , i love to see him play when we're playing our strongest lineup (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/devilsmiley.gif)

[KillerMax]

(IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) A real shame , i love to see him play when we're playing our strongest lineup  (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/devilsmiley.gif)

You are right. I remember how AMAZING he was in his first start for us(His CL debut against AEK). I expect Seedorf to be on the bench by next season. But that's never gonna happen...

[Tennie]

Here's Gazzetta's probable lineup. (I really hope they're wrong.)

Dida
Bonera Nesta Kaladze Jankulovski
Gattuso Emerson Brocchi
Seedorf
Pippo Gila

[Nova]

Here's Gazzetta's probable lineup. (I really hope they're wrong.)

Dida
Bonera Nesta Kaladze Jankulovski
Gattuso Emerson Brocchi
Seedorf
Pippo Gila

Brocchi ? why ?? (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)

This should be Yoan's chance

[misha]

(I really hope they're wrong.)

They are.

[redbabies]

Very often we used to miss 3 pts in these kind of matches (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

[dst]

I would feel ashamed if Yoann doesn't play for the start... it would be a sad waste of talent!

This post has been edited by dst: Sep 14 2007, 04:45 PM

[Tennie]

I suspect Yoann will start. The club website wouldn't put up a quote like that (AND translate it) and then not play the guy.

[dst]

I suspect Yoann will start. The club website wouldn't put up a quote like that (AND translate it) and then not play the guy.

Wouldn't they??

[kurtsimonw]

How come nobody is mentioning Ambro to play! Does everybody think we're saving him for Benfica or something?

[Zed.D]

Yoann will definitely play. it's right that Carlo is stupid, but not that stupid to bench Gourcuff in a game in which we don't have any creative player at all (except for Seedorf).

[Fillipo Simone]

Yoann will definitely play. it's right that Carlo is stupid, but not that stupid to bench Gourcuff in a game in which we don't have any creative player at all (except for Seedorf).

How do you mean Carlo is stupid? (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

[han2503]

Here's Gazzetta's probable lineup. (I really hope they're wrong.)
Dida
Bonera Nesta Kaladze Jankulovski
Gattuso Emerson Brocchi
Seedorf
Pippo Gila

You and me both, although Gazetta are known to get these wrong. Yoann shoudl start this one, we could play for 3 days with that midfield and attack and never score a goal, even against Siena

How come nobody is mentioning Ambro to play! Does everybody think we're saving him for Benfica or something?

Ambro will most probably not play because of the CL game

[misha]

How come nobody is mentioning Ambro to play! Does everybody think we're saving him for Benfica or something?

Because he played the whole game against Ukraine

[Zed.D]

How do you mean Carlo is stupid? (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

ُStupid for not giving Yoann the playing time he deserves (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

Despite liking this man, I think his thoughts are a little bit old-fashioned nowadays, but yet successful.

[Rossoneri7]

ُStupid for not giving Yoann the playing time he deserves  (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

Despite liking this man, I think his thoughts are a little bit old-fashioned nowadays, but yet successful.

nonsense, he is a two time CL winner and one of the most successful coachs in Milan history!! IMO he ranks up there with Saachi. So in that sense, I don't think anyone can call him stupid but cunning (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)

This post has been edited by Rossoneri7: Sep 14 2007, 06:19 PM

[Fillipo Simone]

ُStupid for not giving Yoann the playing time he deserves  (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

Despite liking this man, I think his thoughts are a little bit old-fashioned nowadays, but yet successful.

Old-fashioned? Milan is old-fashioned to. Some would call it traditional,...and that's our strenght, rather then our weakness.

nonsense, he is a two time CL winner and one of the most successful coachs in Milan history!! IMO he ranks up there with Saachi. So in that sense, I don't think anyone can call him stupid but cunning

Only scudetto titles miss,.. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) . But Sacchi is with Capello on No. 1,..

[Zed.D]

nonsense, he is a two time CL winner and one of the most successful coachs in Milan history!! IMO he ranks up there with Saachi. So in that sense, I don't think anyone can call him stupid but  cunning (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)

I said old-fashioned but successful, I know... he's one of the two or three most successful coaches in Milan history. but personally speaking, I like Spalletti's football much more than Carletto's. that's what I call beautiful modern football!

I really want that man as Carletto's successor.

[Fillipo Simone]

I said old-fashioned but successful, I know... he's one of the two or three most successful coaches in Milan history. but personally speaking, I like Spalletti's football much more than Carletto's. that's what I call beautiful modern football!

I really want that man as Carletto's successor.

Remember Manchester?

Spalletti is good, but no match to Carletto.

[Zed.D]

Remember Manchester?

Spalletti is good, but no match to Carletto.

And you wait for this season's clashes between Man U and Roma. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) I'm sure that Manchester will pay the price of humiliating Roma.

Luciano is gaining experience right now, when he's ready, he will leave Roma for a bigger team. I really hope that it's not Inter or Juve.

[Darunia]

I think starting Gila up front alone makes the most sense, then using Pippo against Benfica...

I'd go with this:

Dida

Cafu-Nesta-Bonera-Favalli

Gattuso-Emerson-Brocchi

Seedorf-Gourcuff

Gilardino

[Rossoneri7]

I said old-fashioned but successful, I know... he's one of the two or three most successful coaches in Milan history. but personally speaking, I like Spalletti's football much more than Carletto's. that's what I call beautiful modern football!

I really want that man as Carletto's successor.

Well I don't, I would rather have a coach that can win me the CL than have a coach that plays beutiful football and gets humiliated 7-0.

And if u think Spaletti can do anything about that, don't get ur hopes up .. Cuz United have a VERY experienced coach in SAF. And I wouldn't be surprised if they beat them home and away in the groups (though I will be supporting Roma).

[Zed.D]

Well I don't, I would rather have a coach that can win me the CL than have a coach that plays beutiful football and gets humiliated 7-0.

And if u think Spaletti can do anything about that, don't get ur hopes up .. Cuz United have a VERY experienced coach in SAF. And I wouldn't be surprised if they beat them home and away in the groups (though I will be supporting Roma).

Spalletti could do that too, he just needs a quality and experienced team like Milan and I can guarantee that humiliation won't happen ever again. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

And for Roma-Man U... let's wait and see what happens. we all will be supporting Roma not because we're in love with Roma, but because we all hate Man U (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

By the way SAF's experience was worth nothing in Milan-Man U game, right?! (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) even SAF can get humiliated sometimes! (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

[Rossoneri7]

By the way SAF's experience was worth nothing in Milan-Man U game, right?!  (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) even SAF can get humiliated sometimes!  (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

Yeah well, AC Milan is always AC Milan, it is the team to beat, at the same time it isn't easy for any team to come to the San Siro and match Milan's first XI (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/devilsmiley.gif)

But that doesn't mean that SAF isn't experienced, he knows what kind of a team AC Milan is

[Rossoneri7]

Serie A Preview: Siena - Milan

What: Italian Serie A
Who: Siena (0 pts., 19th) vs. AC Milan (4 pts., 4th)
When: Saturday September 15, 18:00 (CET)
Where: Stadio Comunale Artemio Franchi, Siena


Opposite Ends of the Spectrum

Neither of these two clubs have had the starts to the season they envisioned, but nevertheless are already approaching different objectives. 

Siena are sitting in nineteenth place, not having taken anything from either of their opening two matches.  Their goal-scoring record so far this term is one for, and five against.  They opened the season with a loss at home, at the hands of Sampdoria, 2-1.

‘Samp’ took the lead in the first half, but Siena battled back and leveled the score with twenty minutes to go. Either side could have won this match, but in a theme which has already become repetitious for Siena this season, their defense could not hold the opposition, as newly-acquired Vincenzo Montella scored with less than five minutes remaining to give Sampdoria the victory. 

The next match was an even more daunting task for Siena, as they traveled to Rome’s Stadio Olimpico to take on AS Roma.  The outcome was quite predictable, as Roma stomped the visitors on their way to a 3-0 win, thanks to the second long-range blast by the home side’s Alberto Aquilani in as many weeks, and two further goals in the final ten minutes. 

Milan, however, looked to be the team to beat after their first match, but regressed in the next fixture.  An opening day road win over Genoa, with the 3-0 score line being finalized in the first half, sent out a warning to all opponents.

Massimo Ambrosini beat his marker to the ball from an Andrea Pirlo free-kick and headed in at the near post.  Kakà then cemented the victory, by scoring from close-range in the 43rd minute, then converting a penalty kick in stoppage time, after Alberto Gilardino was brought down by the goalkeeper. 

The next match for Milan, however, was a real struggle, and they repeatedly failed to complete attacking moves or, as was the case most of the time, even get them started.  Fiorentina, fresh from a big win in their first match, came to the San Siro with intentions of getting the full three points, and almost did so.  Kakà converted a penalty kick midway through the first half, but Adrian Mutu brought the sides back on even terms ten minutes after the restart. 

Fiorentina had the better of the chances for the remainder of the match, even hitting the frame of the goal.  A scuffle broke out, with unlikely protagonists being involved.  A Fiorentina player went down in the attacking third, but Milan continued play.  Gennaro Gattuso, of course, was involved, but the usually-calm Kakà became involved, and showed a rare display of anger.  Following this odd encounter, both teams had some decent chances, but nothing came from them, and Milan slumped to a home draw. 

FORM GUIDE

Siena

8/26    Siena 1-2 Sampdoria    Serie A

9/2      Roma 3-0 Siena          Serie A



Milan

8/26    Genoa 0-3 Milan          Serie A

9/3      Milan 1-1 Fiorentina    Serie A

TEAM NEWS

Siena have several injured players, those being Valerio Bertotto, Daniele Ficagna and Wanderson Scardovelli, while the players returning from international duty may not be able to play the full ninety minutes. 

Milan will be missing about half of what would have been their preferred first-choice lineup.  Paolo Maldini and Ronaldo have yet to make an appearance this season due to injuries, while Kakà, Andrea Pirlo and Massimo Oddo will be rested due to their time with the Brazilian and Italian national teams this past week.  The move to rest this trio is evidently a decision manager Carlo Ancelotti made with the thought of the Champions League opener (in the midweek against Benfica of Portugal).

Readdressing the Ronaldo injury, this saga continues to run on.  After first saying he would be fit for the start of the season, he has not yet touched the field of play, with his thigh injury causing a lot of distress and confusion for the Milan medical staff.  He even went back to his native Brazil to see the national team physician about the injury, with doubt in his mind over the abilities of the Milan physicians.  They now claim to have a handle on the injury and what the course of treatment should be, but a doping claim has now been made, and this could drag on for a long time. 

PLAYERS TO WATCH

Leandro Grimi (Siena) – The young Argentine fullback is on loan from Milan this season, and will be eager to show his employers why they should have held on to him tightly.

Clarence Seedorf (Milan) – With Kakà and Pirlo being rested, the onus for attacking creativity will be squarely on the shoulders of this Dutchman.  His resurgence in play since joining Milan has placed him back in the Netherlands national team, and he should be up to the task against Siena. 

POSSIBLE STARTING XI’s

Siena (4-3-3): Manninger; Alberto, Portanova, Loria, Grimi; Vergassola, Codrea, Galloppa; Frick, Maccarone, De Ceglie

Milan (4-3-1-2): Dida; Bonera, Nesta, Kaladze, Jankulovski; Gattuso, Emerson, Ambrosini; Seedorf; Gilardino, Inzaghi 

PREDICTION

Though Milan will be without many of their star names, they still have a fair amount of firepower to field against Siena.  The key to this match may be how Siena counteracts the Milan movements, and this should be a tight affair. 

Siena 1-2 Milan 

Goal.com

[KillerMax]

Whatever happened to Ancelotti's press conference by the way.

[Tennie]

Carletto had his press conference. The last time I looked, the website hadn't translated it though.

From memory, he said that Kaka and Pirlo were being rested as they hadn't recovered from international duty and that Oddo was being rested because he'd picked up a slight knock and it was better that he not play.

The only other player I remember him mentioning was Emerson, who he said would start.

[dst]

Ancelotti's Ronaldo apology
Saturday 15 September, 2007

Carlo Ancelotti has apologised to Ronaldo and insists Milan are looking to win at Siena this afternoon despite leaving behind several top stars.

The Ronaldo saga has undoubtedly dominated the last week at Milanello, as he is now back in Italy after a trip to Brazil for a second opinion on his injury from Selecao medic Jose Luiz Runco.

“Ronnie is recovering and he looks relaxed, but I will not make predictions over the date of his return. There has already been far too much confusion,” warned the Coach.

“Perhaps our evaluation of his injury was mistaken and we are sorry. He wants to play and will play. It was a slower recovery process than expected, but there is nothing more to it.”

“There will be a few players missing, but this is tied to their international commitments and the long journeys they had to make,” assured Ancelotti after excluding Kaka, Massimo Oddo, Andrea Pirlo and Ronaldo from this trip.

“On Tuesday we will have another important game against Benfica, so in these cases it is best not to run the risk. Oddo has a calf problem and that is why he was not called up.”

Just three weeks into the campaign, Ancelotti already has to face the tricky balancing act of Scudetto challengers and Champions League holders.

“This is a big game for us, as after a long time we have the opportunity to return to the top of the Serie A table, even if for only a few hours, and that is a great motivational tool.

“Andrea Mandorlini’s Siena are vivacious and they played well against Roma. They have a good tempo and are particularly pacy, although they do lack something in terms of maturity.”

Pippo Inzaghi and Alberto Gilardino are the only real choices left upfront, but Ancelotti is not concerned.

“We are not scared by problems in attack, as we do not think that we have any. Gila and Inzaghi are reliable and we have other options, as we can move the Trequartisti in a more advanced role. Kaka won’t be there, but that is not a problem. This is our chance to show we have other strengths.”

Midfield maestro Pirlo is also absent, so former Juventus, Roma and Real Madrid man Emerson has his first start for the Rossoneri.

“With Andrea we have greater ease in the cross-field pass and spreading the play. With Emerson we can have more protection in front of the defence. The Brazilian will play from the first minute and has already settled in well to the squad.”


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Let me introduce you to... Football Italia, the official translator of acmilan.com's Italian section! (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

Grimi hopes Milan regret him
Saturday 15 September, 2007

Today Leandro Grimi will get the chance to impress Milan – the club that owns his contract – when they come to Siena.

“It is a little strange for me to face Milan, but I am with Siena now and want to win this match,” said the 22-year-old on-loan defender.

“They are a strong side, but we will have to play everyone over the course of the season, so it is better to take on the top sides at the start rather than near the end. The big clubs’ fitness preparation is more of a long-term plan, so they take time to get into gear.”

The Rossoneri are without Ronaldo, Kaka, Andrea Pirlo and Massimo Oddo, so does Grimi think this will make his life easier?

“Milan have many top players upfront, like Alberto Gilardino and Pippo Inzaghi,” assured the Argentine.

He only made three Serie A appearances throughout last season with the club, but has already had two starts for Siena.

“The Coach has put faith in me and that is very important. I had not played two games on the trot in a long time and hope we can win this match.”

Siena are struggling badly, though, with two consecutive defeats in which they scored one goal and conceded five.

“We deserved more from the Roma match, as when we were 1-0 down we could have equalised with quite a few chances. We lost, but the fact we played good football gives everyone extra confidence,” he told the official club website.

“We knew it was going to be tough and started the season with an uphill struggle, but there is time to turn it around and improve many little things.”


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This post has been edited by dst: Sep 15 2007, 03:29 AM

[Ry4n]

Seedorf Behind Inzaghi or Gila and Behind seedorf Gourcuff i think the formation will look like this

Striker Gilardino

Mids Seedorf Gourcuff Gattuso Emerson

Defence Jank Nesta Khaladze Cafu

This post has been edited by rhy_A4: Sep 15 2007, 10:26 AM

[han2503]

^^^

I hope no one will mind that we're playing with 10 players (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

From the players called up our best line-up would be

Favalli--Nesta--Kala--Cafu
-Rino--Emerson--Brocchi-
------Seedorf--Yoann------
-------------Gila-------------

If Gila is still messing up every ball he gets Carlo needs to take him off at half time.

This post has been edited by han2503: Sep 15 2007, 11:16 AM

[misha]

^^ I think Bonera will start. The guy has to play too sometimes.

[han2503]

^^ I think Bonera will start. The guy has to play too sometimes.

If he starts I would play him instead of Nesta not as a RB.

[dst]

Favalli--Nesta--Kala--Cafu
-Rino--Emerson--Brocchi-
------Seedorf--Yoann------
-------------Gila-------------

I'd rather field Digao at CB than Cafu at RB! He's just some old guy right now... I can play much better than he does!

This post has been edited by dst: Sep 15 2007, 02:42 PM

[misha]

If he starts I would play him instead of Nesta not as a RB.

I would play him alongside Nesta. Kaladze played all the games until now + 2 games for his NT. Bonera, our first CB sub choice (when Maldini injured), haven't played at all.

[Fillipo Simone]

I'd rather field Digao at CB than Cafu at RB! He's just some old guy right now... I can play much better than he does!

You'll see, there's still something in him,...

[dst]

You'll see, there's still something in him,...

I hope you are right!

[han2503]

I'd rather field Digao at CB than Cafu at RB! He's just some old guy right now... I can play much better than he does!

I think Cafu still has it in him to play a couple of games this season. Last season when he was only playing before CL game to give rest to Oddo he always played great. If he gets too tired during the match then we can always take him off and play Bonera on the right

I would play him alongside Nesta. Kaladze played all the games until now + 2 games for his NT. Bonera, our first CB sub choice (when Maldini injured), haven't played at all.

I personally would rather have a fit Nesta against Benfica rather then a fit Kala, so I would much rather rest Nesta, even if he hasn't played as much then risking him getting injured. Kala can always rest next week

[Ry4n]

SIENA-MILAN: LE FORMAZIONI UFFICIALI
15/09/2007
SIENA: Eleftheropoulos; Rossettini, Portanova, Loria; Grimi; Jarolim, Vergassola, Galloppa; De Ceglie, Maccarone, Bucchi.

MILAN: Dida; Cafu, Nesta, Kaladze, Favalli; Gattuso, Emerson, Brocchi; Gourcuff, Seedorf; Gilardino.

This post has been edited by rhy_A4: Sep 15 2007, 04:28 PM

[kurtsimonw]

That can't be right, it says Gourcuff! (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

Awesome news! (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

[misha]

I personally would rather have a fit Nesta against Benfica rather then a fit Kala, so I would much rather rest Nesta, even if he hasn't played as much then risking him getting injured. Kala can always rest next week

He won't rest either of them (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

[Zed.D]

FORZA GOURCUFF!!

[Fillipo Simone]

Chiesa retired or what? Man, Siena is a must-win,...

[Portman]

For god sake... Gattuso, Emerson and Brocchi vs. Siena? (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

[Ry4n]

Great news FORZA GOURCUFF hope he gets a goal

[han2503]

About to start Forza Milan!!!!!

[han2503]

OOOO So close Seedorf, nice shot from Gila

[han2503]

Again Gila

[misha]

Gila received a good pass from Gourcuff but missed it

This post has been edited by mishale: Sep 15 2007, 05:02 PM

[han2503]

OO again that greek keeper (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/mad.gif)

[han2503]

eeek, Siena almost there