[mallamkay]

When Sheva left for Chelsea, my heart was broken being his fan for a long time. But now, I think he has the broken heart. Why has he not been scoring? Chelsea lost the matches in which he scored, he became too desperate as to start taking the free-kicks. Do you think he might have started regreting leaving Milan?

[novfan]

When Sheva left for Chelsea, my heart was broken being his fan for a long time. But now, I think he has the broken heart. Why has he not been scoring? Chelsea lost the matches in which he scored, he became too desperate as to start taking the free-kicks. Do you think he might have started regreting leaving Milan?

Totally!!!
He's struggling to find himself at Chelsea and the fans have yet to embrace him. He has to be regretting his decision.

sad...but he did it to himself...man he was dumb to leave.

[KillerMax]

I think he will score no more than 10 goals in all competitions for Chelsea this season and well, both Chelsea and Sheva will get a nice *** burn and then we will all have a good laugh while we enjoy our new signings Gourcuff and Oliveira kick major ***! (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/devil.gif) (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

[Zed.D]

he will regret that's for sure.
I somehow think he was FORCED to leave Milan! Milan diretors knew what would happen if they don't pay cash to get rid of relegating so they sold him. am i wrong?!!
because we all knew him well for seven years and it looked impossible for him to leave us...

[han2503]

he will regret that's for sure.
I somehow think he was FORCED to leave Milan! Milan diretors knew what would happen if they don't pay cash to get rid of relegating so they sold him. am i wrong?!!
because we all knew him well for seven years and it looked impossible for him to leave us...

Oh come on. Where did you get that idea from????

Milan FORCED Sheva out so we can pay off Guido Rossi an INTERISTA???????

Maybe that would happen in some sort of TV show, but come on!!!! Are you really serious???

Sheva just admitted that Roman had been tapping him up to leave and join Chelsea for years, and I'm sure MONEY and his WIFE had something to do with his move.

You've got to understand, football players have a short carrier span, you've got to make as much as you possibly can in that short time and that's what Sheva is doing.

I'm sure he isn't even regretting it. He might not be scoring goals, but what does he care? He has won the scudetto and the CL, if the premiership is added to that list good but other then that I'm sure he isn't that hungry to win anymore. He just went there to retire in merry old London and play golf with his pals. He is living the good life there, I don't know why he would be regretting his move.

[Portman]

Now... who cares about the english student?
He decided to end his career like that... good for him.

Regret? Nah... some russian $$$ will calm him down.

I'm proud of our attacking players.

[han2503]

Now... who cares about the english student?
He decided to end his career like that... good for him.

Regret? Nah... some russian $$$ will calm him down.

I'm proud of our attacking players.

Great post. He made his choice I'm pretty sure he ain't regretting it.

[misha]

I think he has the broken heart. Why has he not been scoring? Chelsea lost the matches in which he scored, he became too desperate as to start taking the free-kicks. Do you think he might have started regreting leaving Milan?

You are talking like we are in the middle of the season. It's only September ,the season just started and He ,like every player, need some time to settle in the club and to english style.

Don't you remember him taking some free kicks here? Maybe the goal against Lazio reminds you something.

Regreting leaving Milan? We'll see at the end of the season.

[han2503]

You are talking like we are in the middle of the season. It's only September ,the season just started and He ,like every player, need some time to settle in the club and to english style.

You're right, but I think he will find it harder to adapt and I think he will take a lot of time before he settles their, first of all English football is very different to Itailan football, serie A might be more defensive and harder for a striker to adapt but the premiership is much more physical and I don't think it suits him, players like Drogba for example are made for the premiership.

And secondly, it's not just English football he has to adapt to, it's Chelsea's style also, at Milan we play the ball more through the centre and we like to keep the ball on the ground. Chelsea use the wings and make crosses to their strikers from there, and that's why I think that he will find it really hard to adapt

[X-Offender]

I don't think he's regreting it for all the reasons han wrote above. But I'm pretty sure he misses Italy deeply. He misses his old pals, italian football and Milanello. Too bad he went away, could have become a legend here. Anyway, I don't care anymore cause I think we have a great striker in Oliveira. I wish good luck to Sheva and that's it.

[han2503]

I don't think he's regreting it for all the reasons han wrote above. But I'm pretty sure he misses Italy deeply. He misses his old pals, italian football and Milanello. Too bad he went away, could have become a legend here. Anyway, I don't care anymore cause I think we have a great striker in Oliveira. I wish good luck to Sheva and that's it.

Totally right. I don't care anymore about what he does (although the childish part of me want him to fail miserably at Chelsea, but hey what can I do about it? (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) ) But still he has done a lot for Milan, so I wish him good luck for his future, I hope his kid is born healthy. But nothing more nothing less.

[misha]

You're right, but I think he will find it harder to adapt and I think he will take a lot of time before he settles their, first of all English football is very different to Itailan football, serie A might be more defensive and harder for a striker to adapt but the premiership is much more physical and I don't think it suits him, players like Drogba for example are made for the premiership.

And secondly, it's not just English football he has to adapt to, it's Chelsea's style also, at Milan we play the ball more through the centre and we like to keep the ball on the ground. Chelsea use the wings and make crosses to their strikers from there, and that's why I think that he will find it really hard to adapt

After 7 years in Italy of course it will take some time but he is a very smart player and I know he can and will succed. Player like him can play everywhere.

Of course. It's part of it. The players around him also must know his moves better and that don't happen overnight.

Don't forget he moved to new city ,his wife is pregnant and he has a lot on his mind.

I'm sure he isn't even regretting it. He might not be scoring goals, but what does he care? He has won the scudetto and the CL, if the premiership is added to that list good but other then that I'm sure he isn't that hungry to win anymore. He just went there to retire in merry old London and play golf with his pals. He is living the good life there, I don't know why he would be regretting his move.

Come on. He is no like that at all. He has pride ,he wants to do well and to prove that he can make it in the EPL. Sheva is always hungry to win.
I'm surprised you wrote this stuff (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

To all: No matter what you believe his reasons were you got to respect him for 7 great years that he has given to us. You respect more than him players that played here much less time and contribute not even close to what he did. People write negative things about him because they are still angry or need more time to get over .

[han2503]

Come on. He is no like that at all. He has pride ,he wants to do well and to prove that he can make it in the EPL. Sheva is always hungry to win.
I'm surprised you wrote this stuff  (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

I know it's sad to say that, but that's how I feel. The way he laft just leaves a bitter taste in my mouth and I can never look at him like I did before he left.

To all: No matter what you believe his reasons were you got to respect him for 7 great years that he has given to us. You respect more than him players that played here much less time and contribute not even close to what he did. People write negative things about him because they are still angry or need more time to get over .

I'm sure no one will forget what he has done for Milan. This is what I posted in the post above yours.

Totally right. I don't care anymore about what he does (although the childish part of me want him to fail miserably at Chelsea, but hey what can I do about it? (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)   ) But still he has done a lot for Milan, so I wish him good luck for his future, I hope his kid is born healthy. But nothing more nothing less.

I still have the utmost respect for him as a GREAT PLAYER that has done nothing but wonders at Milan. But as I said before I don't appreciate the way in which he left. You can call me childish for the way I feel about him, but that is how I feel.

[dst]

To all: No matter what you believe his reasons were you got to respect him for 7 great years that he has given to us. You respect more than him players that played here much less time and contribute not even close to what he did. People write negative things about him because they are still angry or need more time to get over .

I don't like liars ... and enough of the 'he did a lot for Milan' crap ... and what did Milan do for him??? Milan made him a champion!!!!! Maybe you'll say that he would have become a champion somewhere else and I'll tell you that we could have looked elsewhere too!!!!

He did not respect what Milan offered to him (by lying, not leaving) so I'm not going to respect what he offered to us, period!!

[misha]

He did not respect what Milan offered to him (by lying, not leaving) so I'm not going to respect what he offered to us, period!!

You don't know all the facts behind his departure. Is this so difficult to believe that he did it for his family. Yes he "traded" Milan for his family happiness.

[han2503]

You don't know all the facts behind his departure. Is this so difficult to believe that he did it for his family. Yes he "traded" Milan for his family happiness.

Come on, For his family happiness?? Do you really think that his family was miserable living in Milan? Where they miserable driving the Ferrari around the cathedrals and the Piazzas? Where they miserable having dinner dates with Giorgio Armani and Roberto Cavalli? Was he miserable having a legeon of fans who treated him as if he was a god and would kiss his feet if he asked them to? Where they miserable having one of the most powerful men in Italy handing them everything they wanted on a silver platter? If they where miserable living that sort of life, then I can't even begin to imagine how people who sleep on the streets and don't have anything to eat but the food they find in the trash feel.

Damn Sheva was living a very hard life. I feel sorry for him.

[dst]

You don't know all the facts behind his departure. Is this so difficult to believe that he did it for his family. Yes he "traded" Milan for his family happiness.

well this is the last thing I reply to this thread cause I simply couldn't care less about that b1tch!!!!

I've said it a million times before (just did it again in my last post) but obviously it is not enough: I don't give a damn why he left He Fackin' Lied To Us Like The Worst Motherf@cker of Them All ... and that I don't forgive people for!!!

[misha]

Come on, For his family happiness?? Do you really think that his family was miserable living in Milan? Where they miserable driving the Ferrari around the cathedrals and the Piazzas? Where they miserable having dinner dates with Giorgio Armani and Roberto Cavalli? Was he miserable having a legeon of fans who treated him as if he was a god and would kiss his feet if he asked them to? Where they miserable having one of the most powerful men in Italy handing them everything they wanted on a silver platter? If they where miserable living that sort of life, then I can't even begin to imagine how people who sleep on the streets and don't have anything to eat but the food they find in the trash feel.

Damn Sheva was living a very hard life. I feel sorry for him.

I never said that their life was hard. When you married you need to consider what is best for your wife and children and it's hard to communicate with your wife when you don't speak the same language. And she must have put pressure on him to move + you must think about your kids

[misha]

I've said it a million times before (just did it again in my last post) but obviously it is not enough: I don't give a damn why he left He Fackin' Lied To Us Like The Worst Motherf@cker of Them All ... and that I don't forgive people for!!!

Well ,I don't think he lied about anything bit it's just my humble opinion

[KillerMax]

Well ,I don't think he lied about anything bit it's just my humble opinion

Ancelotti just recently revealed that Sheva wante to leave long before he anounced it and that he could have handled it much better without all the lies. Once I heard that I realized how naive I was to believe him in the first place.

[Portman]

Well ,I don't think he lied about anything bit it's just my humble opinion

Yes. He lied. I'm with dst with that.

He could have been the first one to say "I'm going England" but no... he kept saying "No, I'll stay"... and was Don Silvio the first one who said "Did you know he wants England?".

For me, that's enough.
Oh, and he can continue to kiss his Chel$ea shirt how many times he want. Specially when his little team loses.

[gr33k]

I don't condone what he did to us fans with all the lies and deceit but somehow as one of my favourite players I cannot help but to root for him. I do not want Chelsea to do well as a team but that does not mean that I won't cheer for Sheva. Look the lies hurt but he made his choice, he decided to leave and we all have to live with that decision. I hope if not this year that next year he finds his place and leads the EPL in scoring because he is a classy guy and one of the best strikers in the world and there is no denying that.

[mpok]

Totally right. I don't care anymore about what he does (although the childish part of me want him to fail miserably at Chelsea, but hey what can I do about it? (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)   ) But still he has done a lot for Milan, so I wish him good luck for his future, I hope his kid is born healthy. But nothing more nothing less.

WHY? WHY? WHY? Why are all of you talking as if he betrayed Milan and so many people on this forum turned against him. Sheva is GREAT he will always be GREAT. He was GREAT for us for all this year and i hope he'll do just fine with Chelsea. I watch him play for Dynamo growing up in Ukraine and he was GREAT and i think he will retire with Dynamo in few years.

Players come and go but MILAN is still GREAT.

[pacang]

Sheva's good striker.. we must admit that.. because of what he did for the past seven years..

Definitely agree with han, at Milan he netted lots of goals because of the through balls he got from midfielders.. At Chelsea, Joe Cole will cross and try to find him but will Robben do the same? Lampard will prefer direct shot rather than passing to his strikers.. but he still have Ballack to rely on..

Yes he scored free kicks at milan, but at chelsea, he's gonna wait in line.. Lampard and Ballack comes first..

will he become one of the best striker at Chelsea?
..we just have to wait and see..

[Jack Sparrow]

Well the issue is definitely that he lied and not that he left...when u leave your club honestly u never go down in ur fan's eyes in reputation as a person(Ballack still keeps his fans, even the Bayern fans who boo the cr@p out of him are gonna howl like mad the moment he puts on that national jersey)...I think there's little doubt he could have handled it better...


AND this is my LAST word on the subject...we are flogging a dead horse when we bring him up, I already pushed him out off my fifa 06 team (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

[han2503]

Well the issue is definitely that he lied and not that he left...when u leave your club honestly u never go down in ur fan's eyes in reputation as a person(Ballack still keeps his fans, even the Bayern fans who boo the cr@p out of him are gonna howl like mad the moment he puts on that national jersey)...I think there's little doubt he could have handled it better...
AND this is my  LAST word on the subject...we are flogging a dead horse when we bring him up, I already pushed him out off my fifa 06 team (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

Yep me too, I replaced him with Oliveira. And guess what? My team is still flying high without him

[GULLIVER]

Unhappy, of course unhappy. At least in his job place (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) ( Chelsea ) . I really don't know about the relationship between him and his wife (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

[misha]

AC Milan boss wants cut-price Shevchenko return

Carlo Ancelotti has made a cheeky offer to re-sign Andriy Shevchenko

The Ukrainian superstar is still struggling to find his best form in the Premiership following a £30m summer move from AC Milan.

Asked about his former player at a press conference, Ancelotti said: "If Shevchenko wanted to return, we would have him back.

"But not for 45 million Euros!"

The AC Milan coach added: "We want to do well in the next games in order to make our mark in the league and Champions League.

"But, for the moment, we have done nothing.

"We have only demonstrated that we are competitive and the new players are valid acquisitions for this squad."
link

[amancik]

I don't consider Sheva as a traitor but somehow I don't want to see him back here anymore ... weird feeling (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

[novfan]

WHY? WHY? WHY? Why are all of you talking as if he betrayed Milan and so many people on this forum turned against him. Sheva is GREAT he will always be GREAT. He was GREAT for us for all this year and i hope he'll do just fine with Chelsea. I watch him play for Dynamo growing up in Ukraine and he was GREAT and i think he will retire with Dynamo in few years.

Players come and go but MILAN is still GREAT.

Amen brother.

[mallamkay]

i hope he starts scoring. praying for him. always wished he was still with us, but we might not have bought Oliviera (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

[misha]

Mourinho backs Sheva

Chelsea manager Jose Mourinho has assured out of sorts Ukrainian striker Andriy Shevchenko that his place in the Chelsea time is safe. The 29 year-old striker has found the net just once in six league games since making a club record £31 million move from AC Milan in the summer.


"The goals will come. He knows I trust him. He doesn't have that pressure that the sword is waiting and if you don't score a goal you are out of the team,” Mourinho said.

"He will score goals. He is such a top player in the world he has nothing to prove.

"If he is one, two or three months without scoring goals he is still one of the best strikers in the world."

Shevchenko has been largely outperformed by a rejuvenated Didier Drogba thus far, who has seemed to revel in having a natural striker to play alongside.

Mourinho is set to name the Ukrainian in his starting eleven again when his side takes on Levski Sofia in a Champions League group fixture on Wednesday, and insisted his all-round game in the 2-0 defeat of Fulham at the weekend had been impressive.

“I know strikers ... they live for goals. Their happiness is more about scoring goals, but he gave me a big contribution at Fulham,” said the Portuguese boss.

"In the second half, he had a big responsibility for the way we broke down the defensive strategy of Fulham.”

"He knows he didn't score a goal but he plays on Wednesday, because I'm happy with the contribution he gave us.''

Eurosport

[KillerMax]

That ^ doesn't sound like Murinho... Wait a second... That's Abramovich talking!!!!!

[dst]

That's Abramovich talking!!!!!

(IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

[KillerMax]

(IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

?

[dst]

?

nothing ... I agree !!! (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

[Nova]

Since the english student is not a milan player anymore , i'll move this topic.

[Rossoneri7]

Well it certainly doesnt seem like the Shevchenko I knew !!! The one I knew keeps every single defence on their toes, if not he lets the keeper hang below an extremelly powerful screamer .. And he was consistent with us from day one (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/devil.gif)

I guess he lost motivation .. Moreover, he lost us (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)


I know that by now he's probablly remenicing on his days @ Milan ..

P.s., As an ex-Sheva fan, I know he will score .. Dont want to be too sure and say the highest scorer of the premiership 06-07, but he'll around there ... soon (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

[dst]

Since the english student is not a milan player anymore , i'll move this topic.

right (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

[misha]

Since the english student is not a milan player anymore , i'll move this topic.

"Players" -
"Past or present AC Milan players"

This post has been edited by mishale: Sep 26 2006, 12:34 AM

[Rossoneri7]

"Players" -
"Past or present AC Milan players"

Not to mention still is the 2nd highest scorer .. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/king.gif)

Although I strongly suggest for him to go f@uck himself (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)

[misha]

Although I strongly suggest for him to go f@uck himself (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)

You write this every time
He has a wife for that (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

[amancik]

Not to mention still is the 2nd highest scorer ..  (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/king.gif)

Although I strongly suggest for him to go f@uck himself (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)

owh come on man, chill, don't need to say that cuz he's already suffering over there ...

[Rossoneri7]

You write this every time

Dont you think it would be great for my new sig (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

Unless .. I would be offending his wife ?! Who obviouslly offended me .. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) .. am I making sence (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)

[dst]

owh come on man, chill, don't need to say that cuz he's already suffering over there ...

... because english is hard to learn ??? (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

Dont you think it would be great for my new sig  (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

No ... it's just too much for a b1tch like that !!

[misha]

Dont you think it would be great for my new sig  (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

Unless .. I would be offending his wife ?! Who obviouslly offended me .. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) .. am I making sence  (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)

No (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
I remember, at first you used to defend him.
I hate when people insulting him.

[amancik]

... because english is hard to learn ???  (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

english is the easiest language to learn, isn't it?
I dunnow, maybe he is having a hard time learning english than settling his life

I think deep in his heart, he felt he should've stayed ...

[dst]

I think deep in his heart, he felt he should've stayed ...

Ohh ... poor boy !! (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

[Rossoneri7]

No (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
I remember, at first you used to defend him.
I hate when people insulting him.

I still do defend his past and I would challenge anyone to deny this !!!

I used to defend him when he left, yes thats true .. But the fact of the matter is he kissed that blue shirt .. Then when he came to talk about it in a news conference, when Abramovic simply dictated for him what to say .. That just did it for me ..

Plus .. He isnt even worth our time .. Yeah I do admire his past, as all of us do !! But he just upped and left !!! For english, french, spanish .. For his son, his wife, the money .. What good is it for me to just sit here and say he did this and he did that, when he cant do it anymore ??!!!!!!! I'm not his lawyer !!!

I was his fan, once apon a time .. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) .. the end.

I admire ur stance w/ Shevchenko, I dont mean to argue with u on this because I totally understand u (and anyone who is still fond of Shevchenko) .. But I just gave up on him ..

I think Milan is bigger than Shevchenko and Milan well what can I say .. tu sei tutta la mia vita .. But Shevchenko can go f@ck himself all over again again and again .. That's for all I care (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

[amancik]

english is the easiest language to learn, isn't it? 
I dunnow, maybe he is having a hard time learning english than settling his life

I think deep in his heart, he felt he should've stayed ...

Ohh ... poor boy !!  (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

but then again, even most milan fans bash him for leaving Milan which I don't think was his 100% decision ... his wife played the biggest part (I can't say family bcoz he only had a baby) ...

you guys really disgust him, don't you?

[Rossoneri7]

I think deep in his heart, he felt he should've stayed ...

Yeah .. I do think so too ..

Ohh ... poor boy !!  (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

My sentiments exactly (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/king.gif)

[misha]

But the fact of the matter is he kissed that blue shirt ..

After you score you never know what you gonna do with all emotions and stuff. Plus all all the presure with scoring the first goal for a new team. But that water under the bridge. We should have a new forum rule : "No talking about Sheva"

[Rossoneri7]

We should have a new forum rule : "No talking about Sheva"

Wow .. suddenly u sound like G.W. Bush 'either with us or against us..' (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

I think that it would be hard .. As I hope we share tolerance to eachother's point of viewzzz (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/king.gif)

[misha]

Wow .. suddenly u sound like G.W. Bush

That's bad (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

As I hope we share tolerance to eachother's point of viewzzz (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/king.gif)

We are trying (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

[dst]

you guys really disgust him, don't you?

yes .... again: not for leaving but for lying !!!!!!!!!

[Nova]

"Players" -
"Past or present AC Milan players"

That traitor is an exception (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

[misha]

That traitor is an exception  (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

(IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

[han2503]

I see Sheva got another clean sheet last night. I wonder when he will actually score another goal.

And he just lost his title as best marksman in the CL. I'm glad he isn't carrying around that title while playing for Chelsea, which is something that he achieved with Milan, when he was actually called ONE OF THE BEST PLAYERS IN THE WORLD

[Nova]

I see Sheva got another clean sheet last night. I wonder when he will actually score another goal.

And he just lost his title as best marksman in the CL. I'm glad he isn't carrying around that title while playing for Chelsea, which is something that he achieved with Milan, when he was actually called ONE OF THE BEST PLAYERS IN THE WORLD

And he left all that for Chelsea ... (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

[han2503]

And he left all that for Chelsea ...  (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

If the word "Chelsea" in your sentence means money, then yes (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

[misha]

Sheva: Kaka is my heir

Andriy Shevchenko believes that Brazilian starlet Kaka will become his successor at Milan. “He is an extraordinary player,” stated the Ukrainian.

The Rossoneri have failed to find a replacement for the striker after his summer move to Chelsea and are suffering a goal drought, resulting in three straight goalless draws, but Sheva is confident that things will change.

“There is a man who can become my heir and that is Kaka, he is an exceptional player who still has an enormous potential,” said the player to La Gazzetta dello Sport.

“You haven’t yet seen what he can really do, I am sure he will write an important page in the history of Milan.

“I have heard of a small disagreement between him and Coach Carlo Ancelotti, but there are always discussions in football teams. I don’t think that represents a problem just as long as there is mutual respect.

“Milan’s form? We all go through bad periods as I am not scoring either, but these things can happen. You just need to be patient and wait for things to improve.

“Ricardo Oliveira? He mustn’t feel he is constantly compared with me, when I started everyone reminded me of Marco Van Basten’s performances,” continued Shevchenko, who has just turned 30.

Sheva joined the Stamford Bridge outfit in a £31m move this summer, but so far has been overshadowed by Didier Drogba.

As a result there have been rumours suggesting he may consider a return to Italy, whispers that he immediately dismissed.

“I am glad about the choice I made, this is the life I chose for myself and my family, life goes beyond football,” he added.

“My move had nothing to do with the money and life for a football player is easier in London.

“It’s much more simple and there is not all the pressure there is in Italy, football is a show that finishes once the game is over.

“This is the truth behind my move. If someone doesn’t believe me it’s maybe because they are not used to saying the truth,” concluded Sheva.

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[dst]

Oh sh1t ... then he is leaving !! (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

[LaPalma]

“It’s much more simple and there is not all the pressure there is in Italy, football is a show that finishes once the game is over.

Finally he reveals the truth (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

[mishie]

theres not the pressure in england because everyone knows that the league is awful!!
how many world class players have gone to the E.P.L in thier prime??

[Jack Sparrow]

Henry, Bergkamp, Ballack...actually u know I'm not so sure, they qualify...

[mishie]

henry was bought as a falied winger and wasn't half the player he is now,bergkamp possibly but left the merda after having a nightmare couple of seasons and ballack is 30 not what i call in his prime

[LaPalma]

Henry, Bergkamp, Ballack...actually u know I'm not so sure, they qualify...

Do not forget Makelele, Lampard (yes fat Frank), Gerrard, Essien and Robben...and Fabregas...

[mishie]

Do not forget Makelele, Lampard (yes fat Frank), Gerrard, Essien and Robben...and Fabregas...

lampard 'gerrard are english so they don't count they aren't imports!
essien not sure he's world class yet, fabregas wasn't world class when he arrived he's another wenger miracle!! makele was he in his prime when he came i have to admit i don't know about him!

[dst]

well EPL is not exactly bad ... I mean yeah I don't really like how the football's played over there at the Big Isle but it's certainly not what I call bad ... at least all the stadiums are full !! (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

And yes Makelele was in his prime when he went over to Chelski (then Chelsea) ... I still can't get it why Madrid let him go, that decision still haunts him (maybe Diarra will cover up for it). Only Madrid could sell one of their best players for not being a jersey-seller !! (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/puke.gif)

This post has been edited by dst: Oct 5 2006, 07:02 PM

[kakaisluv]

well i likes the combination of kaka and sheva when he was in milan ... but now im kinda dissapointed by sheva's performance .. hope hell get back to his old ways .. im sad he dint play for ukraine as well cuz of the fever

[misha]

[B]Why is Shevchenko struggling to adapt to the Premiership?[/B]

Is Chelsea's new boy simply past his best, or are there other reasons for his early-season troubles?

At first, it sounds like one of those ubiquitous and annoying riddles that actually has no answer. Marlon King can do it but Andriy Shevchenko can't. Mark Atkins could do it but Juan Veron couldn't. Thierry Henry and Dennis Bergkamp couldn't do it for a couple of months but then did it brilliantly. Robert Pires took a season before he could do it. Shaun Goater did it from the off. Scandinavians generally do it much better than South Americans. What is it?

Hack life in the Premiership, that's what. Seeing a player as good as Shevchenko struggle so badly is startling and excruciating; while English football is clearly a genre unto itself, no genuinely world-class player should be unable to adapt. Yet the reality is that the purchase of foreign players is such an inexact science - even the master, Arsène Wenger, paid good money for the likes of Pascal Cygan, Kaba Diawara and Oleg Luzhny - that, to borrow from William Goldman's treatise on Hollywood, nobody knows anything: why Shevchenko is struggling, when his struggles will end, whether they will end, or why any world-class players would struggle in England. But here are six possible theories.

1. He just needs time

Arguably, it would be more of a surprise if Shevchenko didn't struggle initially. Most of the greatest foreign players have: Dennis Bergkamp did not score until his eighth game for Arsenal, Thierry Henry until his ninth, during which time both were ridiculed by the tabloids, while Eric Cantona was a bit-part player at Leeds for almost a year before moving across the Pennines to find his natural stage. Indeed, the irony of Shevchenko's woes being exacerbated by the blistering form of Didier Drogba, who for two seasons was apparently not cut out for the Premiership, will not be lost on Jose Mourinho. If the good will out, the great - and Shevchenko is certainly that - should have nothing to worry about.

He just needs time. Generally the chief strugglers have been the attackers. More universal footballers such as Claude Makelele, Gabriel Heinze, Sami Hyypia and Peter Schmeichel have found that their job descriptions have changed very little upon arrival in England. Attackers are different, and yet the perception remains that it is defences which need time to gel; that the back four is the great unrotatable of football. In reality it's the opposite: destruction is intrinsically easier than creation, and attacking players need just as much time as defenders to establish rhythms, connection, understanding.

2. He can't handle the muck and bullets

As Roy Keane said, in reference to Veron, the idea that world-class players cannot handle the "muck and bullets" of the Premiership is nonsense. The notion that English football is too fast, that foreigners don't like it up 'em, is a grotesque oversimplification borne of an almost colonial contempt. If it was as simple as that, England could pick the Watford team and rule the waves. The Premiership is certainly more robust than most leagues, and British beef is not to everyone's taste, but the success of pint-sized technicians like Juninho and Gianfranco Zola suggests it is a long way from being a determining factor. Besides, the likes of Paolo Montero were hardly treading on eggshells while trying to stop Shevchenko in his Serie A days.

3. It's all in his head

Many of the Premiership's greatest flops - Veron, Diego Forlan, Serhiy Rebrov, Albert Luque - have been meek, diffident characters; fairweather friends who squeeze tight to the smooth and recoil at the rough. The same can be said of José Antonio Reyes: he was not so much kicked out of football by the Neville brothers as kicked out of playing his normal game. As his ankles were bitten, so his toes stopped twinkling. Contrast that with Cristiano Ronaldo, who has the mental courage and self-belief to keep knocking at the door no matter how many times he is told where to go.

Reyes and Veron, like Ian Rush when he went to Italy, also exhibited classic symptoms of homesickness. Sometimes, playing football abroad really is like being in a foreign country. Or a player might suffer from personal problems - things which do not relate directly to the job but which impinge significantly upon it. Sometimes, it really can be something as ostensibly straightforward as that: sometimes, for no apparent reason, you get bad vibes which never quite go away. But the fact that Shevchenko, and his wife Kristen Pazik, has occupied as many column inches in the gossip sections of the tabloids as the sports pages suggests that life in London suits him just fine.

4. He is being misused tactically

There is significant precedent here: Veron was signed on a whim in 2001 by an excitable manager who suddenly had money to burn (Ferguson's principal target that summer was Patrick Vieira, an entirely different type of central midfielder) and many feel his failure was down to mismanagement. Hindsight shows he was a poor signing in the first place - United's orchestral midfield had room for only one conductor, the peerless Keane - and then, upon realizing that problem, Ferguson tried to get round it by shunting Veron onto the right of midfield.

In many senses, Veron was a Championship Manager purchase, bought for who he was and what he represented rather than after a conclusive analysis of how he might fit into the team. The same applies to Luque, Rebrov and Kleberson, who were all bought without a specific role in mind. Contrast that with Wenger, who watches players dozens and dozens of times to appraise exactly how they will fit into his team.

There are concerns that Shevchenko, like Veron, is in the wrong place at the right time; that he was bought on status, this time by an excitable owner with money to burn. At Milan he was drip-fed chances by a phalanx of seductively brilliant midfield craftsmen: Andrea Pirlo, Kaka, Clarence Seedorf, Rui Costa. At Chelsea he is more likely to be feeding off long passes from Frank Lampard and Michael Ballack or scavenging for knockdowns from Didier Drogba. Worse still, he is sometimes being used as the nominal wide-right in a 4-3-3 formation, as grotesque a misuse of a natural predator since Johan Cruyff tried to convert Gary Lineker into a total footballer by dumping him on the right wing at Barcelona in 1988.

5. He's out of form

Simple as that. Like Wayne Rooney, Shevchenko hasn't quite recovered from a pre-World Cup injury and his rust is compounding the inevitable teething problems of moving to a new culture, a new club and a new style of play. This is a man who scored 127 goals in 207 games in Serie A, the most sophisticated defensive institution in world football. Once he finds his form and rhythm, the Premiership should be easy pickings.

6. He's past it

Don't be silly.


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[misha]

SHEVCHENKO OFFERED HELPING HAND

AC Milan psychologist Bruno de Michelis claims he has spoken with struggling striker Andriy Shevchenko as he tries to make an impact in the Barclays Premiership with Chelsea.

The Ukraine forward has scored just once for the Blues since the Community Shield, in the 2-1 defeat to Middlesbrough back in August, and so far has looked a shadow of the player who prompted big-spending Chelsea to smash their transfer record when completing a £30million-plus deal in the summer.

De Michelis, described as the 'scientific co-ordinator' of the Milan Lab, insists he is happy to help the striker find his feet in his new environment and told The Sun: "I saw him less than two weeks ago. I said I could provide a programme to help him if it is possible.

"He told me 'that would be great'. A champion like Andriy can only be destroyed, not created as he was already a great player before he came to England."

De Michelis believes the change of environment is a key reason behind Shevchenko's slow start.

"How many changes has he faced with the move to London? He needs time and support, otherwise a player becomes introverted, even scared.

"If they start to work with fear inside, it becomes a disaster."

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[dst]

in The Sun !? (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

[Rossoneri7]

in The Sun !?  (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

Found it on goal.com too .. So I guess he cant go f@ck himself after all (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

[golfaspeed]

Wow...i have lost respect for this forum...sheva IS a past ACMilan player and this topic should be in the players forum. Two thumbs down to the loser that moved this topic. The club still respects and recognizes what sheva has done for milan. Even when hes struggling the club offers their support. That shows how much "CLASS" milan has. Too bad you cant say the same for the posers in this forum tho.

[han2503]

Wow...i have lost respect for this forum...sheva IS a past ACMilan player and this topic should be in the players forum.  Two thumbs down to the loser that moved this topic.  The club still respects and recognizes what sheva has done for milan.  Even when hes struggling the club offers their support.  That shows how much "CLASS" milan has.  Too bad you cant say the same for the posers in this forum tho.

I don't want to get into another debate about this but this is all I have to say about your post.

Sheva didn't show any respect towards his fans when he was leaving to "learn English" (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) , so why should we be the ones to show respect when he did nothing of this sort?

This post has been edited by han2503: Oct 20 2006, 01:05 PM

[Rossoneri7]

Guys, its just a forum, whether u post it here or there, it doesn't matter ..

It's an internet site for God's sake, not a cafe or bar !!

Then respect, I don't see how any player would give a rat's a$$ if this thread was here or there (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

[dst]

Then respect ...

The players ofcourse would not give a damn but so what ?? You show respect cause you feel like it ... will Milan ever love you back ?? (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)


anyway .

[Rossoneri7]

The players ofcourse would not give a damn but so what ??  You show respect cause you feel like it ... will Milan ever love you back ??  (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
anyway .

Exactly (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

ohh and about Milan loving me back .. Every night (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) ... See my girl were's my Sheva shirt for PJs (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/devil.gif)

[dst]

(IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)

[Rossoneri7]

(IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)

She's a die hard Milan fan too, that posts using my account sometimes (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

[Portman]

Wow...i have lost respect for this forum...sheva IS a past ACMilan player and this topic should be in the players forum.  Two thumbs down to the loser that moved this topic.  The club still respects and recognizes what sheva has done for milan.  Even when hes struggling the club offers their support.  That shows how much "CLASS" milan has.  Too bad you cant say the same for the posers in this forum tho.

I think I've said that already. But for some reason someone decided to put it in the Football Forum.

[dst]

She's a die hard Milan fan too, that posts using my account sometimes (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

oh lucky you !! nice ! (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/king.gif)

[Jack Sparrow]

So everytime you post we gotta ask if it's Mr or Ms R7 who's posting??!! (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

[Rossoneri7]

So everytime you post we gotta ask if it's Mr or Ms R7 who's posting??!! (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

Well she doesnt post .. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) .. I hope she doesnt (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/huh.gif) ..

Or else she's a real hot head at times (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

[Jack Sparrow]

Ahhh...so every time we see u post something angry it's ur better(bitter) half that's posting...hot headedness and all. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

[KillerMax]

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That's just sad...

This post has been edited by pKillerMax: Oct 21 2006, 10:09 PM

[Rossoneri7]

That's just sad...

How so ?!

[han2503]

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That's just sad...

At least it's not as said as kissing a shirt you have only worn twice in your life to try and cheaply win over the fans.

Let's see if he manages to continue scoring though. Because I really didn't see anything special in his performance today, it was basically the same as the other ones, he just had Campbell to help him put the ball in the net today

[misha]

At least it's not as said as kissing a shirt you have only worn twice in your life to try and cheaply win over the fans.

Let's see if he manages to continue scoring though. Because I really didn't see anything special in his performance today, it was basically the same as the other ones, he just had Campbell to help him put the ball in the net today

It was better than the others. You just looking for bad things in it!!!

[han2503]

It was better than the others. You just looking for bad things in it!!!

I meant it in a general way, sure he had good spells here and there as I've pointed out in my previos posts and he did improve, but he is still doing his diappearing act for most of the game.

[KillerMax]

How so ?!

Sheva, the once best striker in the world, needing Lampard to point his finger at him and shout to the fans, "Sheva is a good player after all..."

(IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

pathetic what he did to himself... (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

[misha]

I meant it in a general way, sure he had good spells here and there as I've pointed out in my previos posts and he did improve, but he is still doing his diappearing act for most of the game.

He was very active during most of the time he played IMO

[han2503]

He was very active during most of the time he played IMO

I didn't really see that from him, Robben was pretty much running the show in the first half from the left (it was clear how vulnerable they where on that side) Sheva only came into the mix a bit when he switched to the left, and these where only short spells from him.

[misha]

Sheva, the once best striker in the world, needing Lampard to point his finger at him and shout to the fans, "Sheva is a good player after all..."

He was just supportive because of the tough times he is having over there but everybody seeing whatever they want to see.

pathetic what he did to himself... (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

Time will tell!!!

[KillerMax]

He was just supportive because of the tough times he is having over there but everybody seeing whatever they want to see.

Time will tell!!!

Seems like you're happy that he went to Chelsea...

[han2503]

Seems like you're happy that he went to Chelsea...

He's just a big Sheva supporter, I'm pretty sure he didn't want him to go to Chelsea

[misha]

I didn't really see that from him, Robben was pretty much running the show in the first half from the left (it was clear how vulnerable they where on that side) Sheva only came into the mix a bit when he switched to the left, and these where only short spells from him.

Robben was the best player in that game but Sheva did what was required of supporting striker like helping to the defence a bit and holding a ball when was needed. He dd good movement during the game but too bad that his teammates can be selfish sometimes. He created great chance for Ballack and could have scored at least two more.

[misha]

Seems like you're happy that he went to Chelsea...

WTF?

I was thrilled. It was the biggest dream of my life. When he was playing for Milan I prayed hard every night that somehow he will end up playing for that beautiful blue shirt.

This post has been edited by mishale: Oct 21 2006, 11:42 PM

[han2503]

Robben was the best player in that game but Sheva did what was required of supporting striker like helping to the defence a bit and holding a ball when was needed. He dd good movement during the game but too bad that his teammates can be selfish sometimes. He created great chance for Ballack and could have scored at least two more.

I think we where seeing a different game then, because I really didn't see him doing a good job at holding the ball up and going down to defend either. You are right about him giving a great assist to Ballack (which he missed badly) and that great shot he had saved in the first half, those where the only glimpses that I'd seen of only half of his potential.

And yes his team mates can be selfish most of the time (Essien and Lampard in particula aree the 2 that I can't stand the most, not to mention Robben missing 3 1 on 1s when he could have easily slipped the ball to either Sheva or Drogba who where free on all occasions), but he knew what he was getting himself into when he went there, so I don't see why this should be an excuse for him