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May 9 2007, 09:34 AM
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I agree with Bluesummers on the line up. Plus Gila can be great off the bench, as he shown vs United. (IMG: http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/cool.gif) Having Ambro, Gattuso and Pirlo in the midfield will really help us, Rino can try and take Gerrard out of the game, like he did with Cristiano, and we'll still have 2 in the middle to battle with Alonso.
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May 9 2007, 12:29 PM
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I see three likely approaches for Liverpool in this one:
* Conservative * Counter attacking * Aggressive
CONSERVATIVE:
--------------------Reina------------------------ Finnan---Agger----Carragher------Riise/Arbeloa Gerrard---Masch---Alonso-------Zenden/Riise ------------Kuyt------------------------------------ ----------------------Crouch----------------------
This is mainly based around keeping things very tight in midfield and defence with the main avenue of attack sending long balls up to Crouch with Kuyt in a withdrawn position. An example is the way they played against Chelsea in the second leg. It's a low risk strategy that would mainly be aimed at stifling our attacking play and scoring from set pieces won around the box by playing aerial balls up to Crouch.
COUNTER ATTACK: -------------------Reina------------------------ Finnan---Agger----Carragher------Arbeloa Gerrard---Masch---Alonso------------Riise ------------Kuyt-------Bellamy--------------------
Again, this strategy keeps things pretty tight in midfield and defence but has more pace up front for counter attacks. This is how Liverpool played away against Barca and it worked with a 2-1 result. It's a good strategy to use against a team like Milan who play with attacking fullbacks and has a slightly less pacy central defence. Sissoko could replace either Mascherano or Alonso in the midfield if they want to mark Kaka.
AGGRESSIVE: -------------------Reina-------------------------- Finnan-----Agger------Carragher---Riise/Arbeloa SG/JP------Masch-------XA/SG-------Kewell/Riise ------------Kuyt------Crouch/Bellamy------------
This is Benitez's most attacking strategy and it involves the use of specialist flank players such as Pennant and Kewell to play horizontal balls from dangerous positions. Kewell is coming back to fitness and is an option on the left, but if he doesn't play it will probably be Riise with Arbeloa slotting in at left back. If they play Pennant on the right then Gerrard will probably partner Mascherano or Alonso in the middle, otherwise Gerrard will be on the right with XA and JM in the centre. I doubt that Benitez will start with both Pennant and Kewell from the outset.
I would put my money on Benitez starting with the conservative strategy, mainly because we have conceded a few goals from set pieces recently and this is the best strategy for exploiting that weakness. It plays to their strengths (difficult to break down, dangerous from set pieces) and is what Benitez went for against Chelsea when they needed a win. Also, if he starts that way he can "build it up" to a more attacking situation if they need a goal, whereas it's not so easy the other way around.
Benitez has a few options available to him and he's a very very good tactician. Ancelotti is also one of the best tacticians going around, but our system in the CL is pretty much set (4-3-2-1, unless there are injuries to key players) so we are somewhat predictable in that sense. That in itself is not a bad thing, as everyone knew the system Barca used last season but no one could actually beat them. Benitez is what I fear the most about Liverpool. He's the ace in their ranks, as much as Kaka is ours.
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May 9 2007, 01:24 PM
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Seedorf eyes Liverpool revengeMilan midfielder Clarence Seedorf has admitted that he wants revenge when he comes face to face with Liverpool in the Champions League Final. The two teams meet in the European Cup Final again this month just two years after the English club overturned a 3-0 deficit to win the Istanbul showdown on penalties. “We want to get our revenge against Liverpool, obviously only in a sporting sense,†the Dutchman told the Spanish newspaper AS. “I cried that night in Turkey as it’s tough to lose the Cup in just six minutes… “It will be a difficult tie where I am sure physical strength will make the difference. The key to the match will be our ability to score more than them. “We were impressive against Manchester United in the semi-final. They are a great side, but we proved that we are superior when it comes to strength, will and determination. “If we win then I would like to dedicate the victory to my family, friends and all those who have been part of my career.†The 31-year-old, who joined Milan in 2002 from Inter, has won the Champions League with a record three different outfits – Real Madrid, Ajax and the Rossoneri. “I feel privileged to have played so many games in the Champions League with many important teams,†explained the Dutchman. “I am a better player compared to when I played in Madrid or even two, three years ago. “Experience helps to improve and I hope I will continue to do so. I always train with desire and intensity.†Seedorf was also questioned on Barcelona sensation Ronaldinho, who has been paired with a summer move to the San Siro. “He might come as he was already linked with us last year, but we will all just have to wait and see,†he continued. “Having so many high-quality players in your side allows you to increase the chances of obtaining important results.†Channel4
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May 9 2007, 01:53 PM
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QUOTE (Bluesummers @ May 9 2007, 01:42 AM) ----------------dida ------nesta-----paolo---janku -oddo -------gattuso---pirlo----ambro -----------seedorf -----kaka------ -----------------inzaghi I really don't like that because of how our side looks like. 1 side has nesta, oddo, and gattuso which is pretty good but on the other side is jankulovoski and ambrosini (IMG: http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) all they need is a long pass over those 2 and we're done. ----------------Dida --Oddo--nesta-----Maldini---janku -----gattuso---pirlo----ambro -----------Kaka-----seedorf ---------------inzaghi/gila something exactly to the one we used against Man United or something similar
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May 10 2007, 10:26 AM
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QUOTE (tom_valtellina @ May 9 2007, 11:29 AM) I see three likely approaches for Liverpool in this one: * Conservative * Counter attacking * Aggressive CONSERVATIVE: --------------------Reina------------------------ Finnan---Agger----Carragher------Riise/Arbeloa Gerrard---Masch---Alonso-------Zenden/Riise ------------Kuyt------------------------------------ ----------------------Crouch---------------------- This is mainly based around keeping things very tight in midfield and defence with the main avenue of attack sending long balls up to Crouch with Kuyt in a withdrawn position. An example is the way they played against Chelsea in the second leg. It's a low risk strategy that would mainly be aimed at stifling our attacking play and scoring from set pieces won around the box by playing aerial balls up to Crouch. COUNTER ATTACK: -------------------Reina------------------------ Finnan---Agger----Carragher------Arbeloa Gerrard---Masch---Alonso------------Riise ------------Kuyt-------Bellamy-------------------- Again, this strategy keeps things pretty tight in midfield and defence but has more pace up front for counter attacks. This is how Liverpool played away against Barca and it worked with a 2-1 result. It's a good strategy to use against a team like Milan who play with attacking fullbacks and has a slightly less pacy central defence. Sissoko could replace either Mascherano or Alonso in the midfield if they want to mark Kaka. AGGRESSIVE: -------------------Reina-------------------------- Finnan-----Agger------Carragher---Riise/Arbeloa SG/JP------Masch-------XA/SG-------Kewell/Riise ------------Kuyt------Crouch/Bellamy------------ This is Benitez's most attacking strategy and it involves the use of specialist flank players such as Pennant and Kewell to play horizontal balls from dangerous positions. Kewell is coming back to fitness and is an option on the left, but if he doesn't play it will probably be Riise with Arbeloa slotting in at left back. If they play Pennant on the right then Gerrard will probably partner Mascherano or Alonso in the middle, otherwise Gerrard will be on the right with XA and JM in the centre. I doubt that Benitez will start with both Pennant and Kewell from the outset. I would put my money on Benitez starting with the conservative strategy, mainly because we have conceded a few goals from set pieces recently and this is the best strategy for exploiting that weakness. It plays to their strengths (difficult to break down, dangerous from set pieces) and is what Benitez went for against Chelsea when they needed a win. Also, if he starts that way he can "build it up" to a more attacking situation if they need a goal, whereas it's not so easy the other way around. Benitez has a few options available to him and he's a very very good tactician. Ancelotti is also one of the best tacticians going around, but our system in the CL is pretty much set (4-3-2-1, unless there are injuries to key players) so we are somewhat predictable in that sense. That in itself is not a bad thing, as everyone knew the system Barca used last season but no one could actually beat them. Benitez is what I fear the most about Liverpool. He's the ace in their ranks, as much as Kaka is ours. Great post, and pretty much sums up my feels on the game too (IMG: http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/king.gif) I'd feel much more comfortable with facing Kuyt+Bellamy rather than Kuyt+Crouch.
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May 10 2007, 12:11 PM
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A great article indeed tom_valtellina!! I think Rafa will opt for the conservative formation. In fact, I'm almost certain it's going to be as conservative as it gets. As for Milan, I don't think we're predictable; how can a team (the only one actually) with 3 no10's on the field be predictable? ... QUOTE Reds complain over final ticketsLiverpool have complained about their ticket allocation for the UEFA Champions League final against Milan.The Reds have been awarded 17,000 seats for the game at the 63,000-capacity Olympic Stadium in Athens, and believe they are entitled to ask Uefa for more. Liverpool have been criticised by some of their own fans for their methods of distribution, with some having made arrangements to travel only to be told they will not qualify for a ticket. "The bottom line is that Uefa have not supplied anywhere near enough tickets for the Champions League Final," read a statement from the club. "Liverpool have expressed their disappointment and frustration to Uefa - but have been told categorically that no more tickets will be allocated to the club, not even the returned tickets from Milan - they will go into a Uefa ballot. "Liverpool Football Club understands and shares the disappointment of their fans in what is a very frustrating situation. "Our policy on tickets was available right from the start of the season and has not changed. "The ballot for Liverpool fans was drawn up to be as fair as possible to fans, but the bottom line is that Uefa have not supplied enough tickets for the match." Uefa, who has allocated 20,000 tickets to the 'Uefa family' and a further 9,000 via a ballot, insist the system is fair. "If we built a stadium with a million seats, the match would still sell out and supporters would not be able to see the pitch," Uefa spokesman William Gaillard told the Liverpool Echo. "It's impossible more will be released in the coming weeks - 17,000 is the final figure." skysports (IMG: http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) "Returned tickets from Milan"?? (IMG: http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/huh.gif) That's bullsh!t, they haven't even been on sale yet. Whatever. (!! Question: Sky Sports headlines are in Capital letters but when I copy paste them, they're in lower... anyone knows why? (IMG: http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) !!)
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May 10 2007, 03:35 PM
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QUOTE (han2503 @ May 10 2007, 11:08 PM) I think Pippo will start this one, Carlo trusts him more then Gila and rightly so. Him and Ambro are lucky charms (IMG: http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) I really feel that Ambro is an underrated player for us. Not by Milan fans, who appreciate what he brings to the team, but by commentators and pundits in general who rarely seem to mention him. He's very disciplined, can perform a specific role or task given to him by Ancelotti, wins a lot of balls in midfield, and is always a threat from set pieces (as well as being a good defender of them too).
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