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post Dec 7 2006, 01:03 AM
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Han, I know you always back the team. However, you shouldn't look into only this game, you must look into our serie of matches.

What we have now? No leader, no form, no spirit, ... We need a fresh wind. The extension of Carlo last season is a bs ... I swear.
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post Dec 7 2006, 01:06 AM
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QUOTE (berenike_10 @ Dec 6 2006, 11:57 PM)
Yes han , but the problem here is that we have been lack of wins the season so far, that another defeat is not a joke anymore, and you will see, that will have a lot of problems facing torino, and using la prima squadra, and the same topic will come to life here, is what we are talking about all time , is our main concern, the main topic.

yuor point is reazonable, more if you say '' hey wa have the ucl final around the corner and the serie A is lost already'', but is not the case, the can get smacked the next round, and belive me im really sacared about that , becasue the seria A is not an option now, lets be honest, and coppta italia might be out redemption.
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A defeat like this is certainly not something to be proud of, but I'll say it again I was expecting it.

And I know what you are saying, conserving our energy in this match doesn't mean that they will come out all guns blazing in the Toro match, and it doesn't mean that we will win it either.

Bu i still can't see why all this commotion has come up, we where complaicant and played awful, and that's where my theory of them not even trying comes from.

But my point still is, why go all out to get a win you don't need when you could be risking players you desperately need fit at the moment? it's just not worth it imo.

And about the CL KOs, we'll see what transpires during the transfer window and how we will come out playing after the break before we start talking about getting spanked
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post Dec 7 2006, 01:09 AM
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QUOTE (han2503 @ Dec 6 2006, 11:59 PM)
Oddo would still come he's a Milanista at heart and he would do anything to wear the Milan shirt.

Oddo and Suazo should be out January targets. They would come for probably less then 20mil€ together, like X said, some thing that should be well in our price range considering we just made 15 million pounds from qualifying from the group stages of the CL.
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5M for Oddo and 15M for Suazo? When other big clubs asked Cagliari they wanted 25-30M for him... (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

But if we want to get the 4th place we must buy them. And probably a center-back too. And I wouldn't mind a keeper.

Here's my Xmas list:
-Foward (Suazo?)
-RB (Oddo?)
-CB (...?)
-GK (...?)
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post Dec 7 2006, 01:12 AM
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QUOTE (han2503 @ Dec 6 2006, 06:06 PM)
A defeat like this is certainly not something to be proud of, but I'll say it again I was expecting it.

And I know what you are saying, conserving our energy in this match doesn't  mean that they will come out all guns blazing in the Toro match, and it doesn't mean that we will win it either.

Bu i still can't see why all this commotion has come up, we where complaicant and played awful, and that's where my theory of them not even trying comes from.

But my point still is, why go all out to get a win you don't need when you could be risking players you desperately need fit at the moment? it's just not worth it imo.

And about the CL KOs, we'll see what transpires during the transfer window and how we will come out playing after the break before we start talking about getting spanked
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Well let's hope we're right, because this is getting really messi game by game, the point is like X said , and as many has said it also, if galliani, berculconi, braida, milan itself don't bring new players for this transfer window , milan won't acomplsished anything this season.
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post Dec 7 2006, 01:13 AM
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QUOTE (Portugal @ Dec 7 2006, 02:09 AM)
Here's my Xmas list:
-Foward (Suazo?)
-RB (Oddo?)
-CB (...?)
-GK (...?)
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I can't see this happening in january. They will buy max 2 players. The rest (including a LB and DM) in the summer.
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post Dec 7 2006, 01:14 AM
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QUOTE (YoungGun @ Dec 7 2006, 12:03 AM)
Han, I know you always back the team. However, you shouldn't look into only this game, you must look into our serie of matches.

What we have now? No leader, no form, no spirit, ... We need a fresh wind. The extension of Carlo last season is a bs ... I swear.
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Well I used to back them up when they where JUST drawing 0-0s and everybody was already coming to conclusions about the team being sh!t.

But what happened in this match really doesn't bother me at all.

Did I want us to win? Of course I did, I even would want them to win a stupid pre-season friendly.
But did I expect them to win or to come out fighting in this match? Not really.
Was I annoyed and frustrated when we conceeded 2 stupid goals that could have easily been prevented if our head was in the game? Definately.

Right now all I'm waiting for is for the winter break to come and hopefully with it confirmation of some of our starters being recovered and regaining fitness and at least 2 signings
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post Dec 7 2006, 01:15 AM
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QUOTE (Portugal @ Dec 6 2006, 06:09 PM)
5M for Oddo and 15M for Suazo? When other big clubs asked Cagliari they wanted 25-30M for him...  (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

But if we want to get the 4th place we must buy them. And probably a center-back too. And I wouldn't mind a keeper.

Here's my Xmas list:
-Foward (Suazo?)
-RB (Oddo?)
-CB (...?)
-GK (...?)
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-Foward (Suazo?) yes
-RB (Oddo?) yes
-CB (...?)---- barzagli / mexes / chivu
-GK (...?)---- amelia / buffon

Ps : i know im dreaming.. but let me be (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

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post Dec 7 2006, 01:20 AM
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milan website is so ***** they dotn even mention the result they just give kaladze's comments on the game: we must forget this loss blahg blah blah.." well kaladze then i guess we must forget this whole season and go home. look some of you were like oh this game wasnt important well then i guess they dint deserve to have any fans come and support them with that sorta attitude cuz thats exactly what displayed on the pitch, that this game wasnt important. i cant wait for them to lose in the next round so they no excuses and we can have a massive clean up.
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post Dec 7 2006, 01:24 AM
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QUOTE (Portugal @ Dec 7 2006, 12:09 AM)
5M for Oddo and 15M for Suazo? When other big clubs asked Cagliari they wanted 25-30M for him...  (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

But if we want to get the 4th place we must buy them. And probably a center-back too. And I wouldn't mind a keeper.

Here's my Xmas list:
-Foward (Suazo?)
-RB (Oddo?)
-CB (...?)
-GK (...?)
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How about this?

-Foward (Suazo?)
-RB (Oddo?)
-CB (Barzagli?)
-GK (Sorrentino?)

About the Suazo thing, 25 mil€ would still be able to be covered just be using the money from UEFA and maybe pulling out 5 mil from our own pockets, and another 5 mil for Oddo, it's strill in out price range and if our managemet had any sense they would try and get these 2. Money shouldn't be a problem for us considering how much we made from selling 3 top players and not having to pay their wages anymore and the bwin deal.

Barzagli should be brought in in the summer, I don't think we currently need another CB the fullback areas are much bigger problems.

And getting Amelia to sit on a bench for the whole season after Dida returns would be pointless seeing as he is still developing and needs his playing time. sorrentino would be great to have as a second choice keeper, a hundred times better then Kalac.

QUOTE (berenike_10 @ Dec 7 2006, 12:12 AM)
Well let's hope we're right, because this is getting really messi game by game, the point is like X said , and as many has said it also, if galliani, berculconi, braida, milan itself don't bring new players for this transfer window ,  milan won't acomplsished anything this season.
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I'm keeping my fingers crossed that at least we'll get a RB and a forward
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post Dec 7 2006, 01:29 AM
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QUOTE (han2503 @ Dec 6 2006, 06:24 PM)
How about this?

-Foward (Suazo?) terrific !!!
-RB (Oddo?) nice
-CB (Barzagli?) cool
-GK (Sorrentino?)

I'm keeping my fingers crossed that at least we'll get a RB and a forward
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We need a keeper available for the UCL... the league at last... well you know.
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post Dec 7 2006, 01:37 AM
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QUOTE (berenike_10 @ Dec 7 2006, 12:29 AM)
We need a keeper available for the UCL... the league at last... well you know.
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Dida would have recovered by the time the CL starts up again.

I just don't see the point in getting someone like Amelia or Buffon while we still have Dida, if we have confirmation of what he will do with the contract situation then the management will move from there and decide who they want to replace him with.

Sorrentino is a good keeper and would be very reliable to have as a second choice
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post Dec 7 2006, 01:42 AM
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QUOTE (han2503 @ Dec 6 2006, 06:37 PM)
Dida would have recovered by the time the CL starts up again.

I just don't see the point in getting someone like Amelia or Buffon while we still have Dida, if we have confirmation of what he will do with the contract situation then the management will move from there and decide who they want to replace him with.

Sorrentino is a good keeper and would be very reliable to have as a second choice
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i never said sorrentino was a bad one, he made some great saves against milan. but i think he rathers to stays in AEK and play as a firts keeper , to come to milan and warm the bench.
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post Dec 7 2006, 02:03 AM
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QUOTE (han2503 @ Dec 7 2006, 12:55 AM)
It's just hard to fill up the San Siro to full capacity, when you compare it to most stadiums in England it is twice their size. So it would be twice as hard to fill to full capacity if it's not a big match.

Like Stamford bridge for example, what's it's capacity, something like 40,000? And it's not always a full house. Now just imagine what it would take to fill a stadium that can hold over 80,000 spectators every weekend
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Well, I don't think this is our main problem. 25.800 people during in a CL match? This is like nothing. When we played against Brescia there where only 1.800 (!) people in the stadium. This is joke. People are p!ssed because of Calciopolli and our recent performances.
1800 people? There are people watching games of my local club which is playing in the 4th league, in a city much smaller than Milan.
An I know for sure that stadiums in english and german stadiums there are much more people even at league games. In Dortmund for example, which is playing really crappy right now, there are 80.000 people wtaching their games every two weeks. And even Schalke could sell 120.000 tickets for their home games if they wanted to.
I don't know exactly why there are only 25.000 during a CL tie, but this is not normal...


As for the winter I don't think we'll be able to sign Oddo or Suazo. Cagliaris demands for Suazo are insane, and Galliani surely doesn't want to spent big...
And I could understand if Oddo doesn't want to join us. In the summer he almost begged for a transfer and we didn't sign him...
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post Dec 7 2006, 04:59 AM
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Why doesnt Galliani try and buy players. Doesn't Milan have alot of money apart from the sheva transfer(45mEuro). Oli couldnt cost more than 10m. I wish milan would buy


RB: oddo
Gk: Hildebrand
CAM: Diego

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post Dec 7 2006, 05:34 AM
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theres rumors galliani is ripping money off. oli was over 10 million + vogel which it pretty strange when in my opiniion vogel is still a quality player and pretty close in value to oliveira. who know maybe that bald loser keeping a lil extra for himself?
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Why doesnt Galliani try and buy players.  Doesn't Milan have alot of money apart from the sheva transfer(45mEuro).  Oli couldnt cost more than 10m.  I wish milan would buy
RB: oddo
Gk: Hildebrand
CAM: Diego
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