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Oct 25 2006, 11:01 PM
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It was a pretty good game by us, we missed so many chances that if we scored at least half of them the result would be something like 0-3. I really liked Simic, he keeps impressing me, and Janku was very good too. Great goal that was. We controled the match, had so many occasions while Chievo only had that double miss with Tiribochi and Semioli. But in overall, this was a very good match by us in attendance of the derby. As for the Gila case, I have to agree with han. He looked sharp tonight, worked a lot and if he would have been a little more careful he might have scored that damn goal. But if we're talking about wasted goals, then I think you should go and blame Kakà and Borriello too, as they missed clear goal occasions aswell. As I said, if Gila keeps playing like this, he has my total support. Now let's go and get the merda! FORZA MILAN!
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Oct 25 2006, 11:08 PM
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QUOTE (X-Offender @ Oct 25 2006, 04:01 PM) As for the Gila case, I have to agree with han. He looked sharp tonight, worked a lot and if he would have been a little more careful he might have scored that damn goal. But if we're talking about wasted goals, then I think you should go and blame Kakà and Borriello too, as they missed clear goal occasions aswell. As I said, if Gila keeps playing like this, he has my total support. Now let's go and get the merda! FORZA MILAN! See... I don't get you there... Boriello? No one expects anything from him... Plus he doesn't play every game... and we can see why... Kaka? He missed a lot of chances today, didn't he?? But he has his moments of magic! He does score once in a while for God sake... Gila on the other hand has not scored in 6 months and he keeps playing and playing and playing and he still doesn't score?? I'm just wondering... How much is enough?? What good is he to us when he can't score and we keep drawing games? I don't care if he is working hard... He is not any good to us... and he hasn't been for a really long time!!
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Oct 25 2006, 11:26 PM
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QUOTE (pKillerMax @ Oct 25 2006, 11:08 PM) See... I don't get you there... Boriello? No one expects anything from him... Plus he doesn't play every game... and we can see why... Kaka? He missed a lot of chances today, didn't he?? But he has his moments of magic! He does score once in a while for God sake... Gila on the other hand has not scored in 6 months and he keeps playing and playing and playing and he still doesn't score?? I'm just wondering... How much is enough?? What good is he to us when he can't score and we keep drawing games? I don't care if he is working hard... He is not any good to us... and he hasn't been for a really long time!! Well, you were talking about tonight's performance in the first place. But I gotta give you that 6 months is a lot of time, and Gila's case is getting frustrating week by week, as he said by himself. But the point is Gila has been unlucky in many occasions, we can't deny this fact. I don't wanna justify him by saying this, but the fect is hitting bars on and off isn't something that happens to everybody. Gila is a striker, he needs to score, that's his job. I've always said this, and I will keep saying it. But another fact is Gila plays for the team, he sacrifices himself for the team, and that conditions his play. You know, I also have a friend of mine like you, he actually hates Gila, keeps blaming him all the time. I try to explain him the case, but he won't just listen. All I wanna say is Gila is not some type of Inzaghi or Crespo anymore. He might have been at Parma, but now he is a different player. He plays for the team, sacrifices himself, makes 1-2's with Oli or Ricky to put them in front of the goal, thing he did perfectly tonight. He's a bit inprecise, yes, but still I think he's a Milan class player. We'll just have to wait and the goals will come. If not, the others will score. Sure thing is Gila will keep woring for the team, and that's very important.
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Oct 25 2006, 11:38 PM
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QUOTE (X-Offender @ Oct 25 2006, 04:26 PM) Well, you were talking about tonight's performance in the first place. But I gotta give you that 6 months is a lot of time, and Gila's case is getting frustrating week by week, as he said by himself. But the point is Gila has been unlucky in many occasions, we can't deny this fact. I don't wanna justify him by saying this, but the fect is hitting bars on and off isn't something that happens to everybody. Gila is a striker, he needs to score, that's his job. I've always said this, and I will keep saying it. But another fact is Gila plays for the team, he sacrifices himself for the team, and that conditions his play. You know, I also have a friend of mine like you, he actually hates Gila, keeps blaming him all the time. I try to explain him the case, but he won't just listen. All I wanna say is Gila is not some type of Inzaghi or Crespo anymore. He might have been at Parma, but now he is a different player. He plays for the team, sacrifices himself, makes 1-2's with Oli or Ricky to put them in front of the goal, thing he did perfectly tonight. He's a bit inprecise, yes, but still I think he's a Milan class player. We'll just have to wait and the goals will come. If not, the others will score. Sure thing is Gila will keep woring for the team, and that's very important.  I have said all these thinsg myself too... He used to be a favorite of mine and to be honest he still is... But I can't lie to myself anymore... I'm not saying that he is done... he should be shot and put in a coffin... But after seeing him strugle badly in the Cl last year... I said to myself... That's just temorery... He will come back and he will start scoring in no time... But he did the exact opposite... And he still hasn't scored one single goal... Even in Serie A... You are saying that he sacrifices for the team... But what is his sacrifice worth when him not scoring is costing us game after game... To the point where we have to rely on our midfield or sometimes defense to create something... I'm sure you wanna say that Inzaghi misses a lot too... But just look how much he helped us last year in the CL and this year in the peliminary round... He contributed by scoring important goals... Not just by fighting on the field... Because that's what strikers do... It's Gattuso's job to fight for the team and sacrifice himself... You know what I'm saying??
This post has been edited by pKillerMax: Oct 25 2006, 11:39 PM
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Oct 25 2006, 11:51 PM
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QUOTE (pKillerMax @ Oct 25 2006, 11:38 PM) I have said all these thinsg myself too... He used to be a favorite of mine and to be honest he still is... But I can't lie to myself anymore... I'm not saying that he is done... he should be shot and put in a coffin... But after seeing him strugle badly in the Cl last year... I said to myself... That's just temorery... He will come back and he will start scoring in no time... But he did the exact opposite... And he still hasn't scored one single goal... Even in Serie A... You are saying that he sacrifices for the team... But what is his sacrifice worth when him not scoring is costing us game after game... To the point where we have to rely on our midfield or sometimes defense to create something... I'm sure you wanna say that Inzaghi misses a lot too... But just look how much he helped us last year in the CL and this year in the peliminary round... He contributed by scoring important goals... Not just by fighting on the field... Because that's what strikers do... It's Gattuso's job to fight for the team and sacrifice himself... You know what I'm saying??  Yeah, I know what you're saying, and you're right. Pippo helped us a lot last year, he was our saviour. Gila needs to score, I said it above. But I also said he plays for the team. By that I don't mean he fights like Rinho or Brocchi. They are the engine of our midfield, especially Rinho where you can find him anywhere on the pitch. But Gila has a different job. He has to play outside the box now, cause he has to combine with the midfielders and the other forward. He links our midfield with our attack, but he also makes part of this attack. Now, he's been doing this job very good so far, but, he has not scored since a long while, and that's what he has to improve. From my point of view, Gila only makes 1/2 of his job. He has to start scoring, and that's just a matter of time I guess. He's been very close to the goal in the last matches, that's a good signal I would say.
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Oct 26 2006, 05:08 AM
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QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Oct 25 2006, 01:58 PM) The problem isn't really with us fielding him; the problem is that he is costing us the game .. This game, I'm glade we won .. But other games, he has to score ! This is getting really serious !!! The more he takes the pitch (..the more he gains confidence .. ?! ) the more he is costing us the game, IMO. Yeah I agree Everyones all about Forza Gila, but he hasn't earned anything so far. Our defenders are out scoring him. A poor run of form? He didn't score in the CL last season and this season. 8 games now in scudetto and no goal. he did score 16 last which is good but most were when we were winning 3-0 against weak teams. If it wasn't for the 3 teams with negative points, Chievo would be in the relegation zone right now. I don't see a 1-0 win to the weakest team in serie A as really that great of a truimph Its not even about winning its about potential with me. And this team is at 30% of what it could be doing. I tend to blame the management for not being aggressive with acquiring new players. They could have traded Scheva for Drogba. They could have done many things in the past 2 transfer windows. Its just so hard to watch especially because last season our offense was unstoppable. Our defense had its patches and Dida had his days, but overall we were solid all around.
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Oct 26 2006, 11:40 AM
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QUOTE (pKillerMax @ Oct 25 2006, 08:34 PM) What the hell does that supposed to mean?? Gila hasn't scored for Milan in over 8 months or something... I mean not at least one moment of magic... If Kaka missed a lot of chances today, and he is not even a striker, he will score in another game... Quality will shine through no matter what... And I'm afraid Gila lacks quality... He has had his chances... Gila definately doesn't lack quality, and about the Kaka issue, since when does Kaka miss chances like that, it's not just the Gila mentality, it's the whole team, Kaka had an open goal chance also and waisted it. QUOTE (pKillerMax @ Oct 25 2006, 08:44 PM) This is not about Milan... this is about Gila... And all the people that can't admit he is no Milan class... I like him... But he should play for Fiorentina or Roma... Not Milan... Just because he is a hard worker doesn't mean he is a class player... Suazo scores a lot of goals for Cagilari... But that doesn't make him Milan class... Same with Gila... He scored a lot for Parma and now people think he is class.. while clearly.. he is not... When a striker typically scores around 24 goals per season then I would sy he is Milan quality not Fiorentina and Roma. And what do you actually call Milan class?? Gila has all the class in the world, class doesn't mean just scoring goals by tap ins, it means class on and off the pitch, keeping a cool head and performing for the team, all qualities Gila has. Do you see him going around whining to the press when Carlo doesn't play him, like Zlatan and Adriano, NOO!! That is class QUOTE (mishie @ Oct 25 2006, 08:47 PM) where were these comments last season? he is class no doubt but like i said you could have a ibra lots of class no work rate! as long as he keeps trying and working for the team he gets my support until that happens i won't complain about him Ibra has no class, since when does a player who spits at other players and grab them by the neck has class, he has all the talent in the world at his feet yes but he is definately classless. It's just a matter of what you define by the word class, and for me, class is more then just scoring goals or doing fancy tricks. QUOTE (I_Rossoneri @ Oct 25 2006, 09:46 PM) Just got home from work and seen the score (IMG: http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)  about time too, although good old carlo still made his usual changes (IMG: http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) . At least he had the sense to field Gila and Oli together... I cannot believe the slating Gila is getting? although he doesn't score he always seems to give 110%. At least he doesn't dawdle around with the ball like Seedorf! at the moment Gila is suffering a real lack of confidence and should be playing the full 90 mins. Sometimes forwards seem to go through lean spells then they return prolific - only time will tell (IMG: http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/devilsmiley.gif) 100% agree. Glad to see that you are out of the 'we are cr@p' mood (IMG: http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) (IMG: http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) QUOTE (pKillerMax @ Oct 25 2006, 09:56 PM) Obviously you didn't see his empty goal chance which he wasted... And obviously, you didn't see all the great plays he created with his passes to Kaka and Oli. If you are going to criticise him you should look at the whole picture not the bad miss, which by the way was his only bad miss, he looked sharp throughout the whole match. If we are going to slay anyone for bad misses it should be Kaka and Boriello. Kaka the most, I can't count the number of time he was through on goal alone with the keeper and missed. QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Oct 25 2006, 09:58 PM) The problem isn't really with us fielding him; the problem is that he is costing us the game .. This game, I'm glade we won .. But other games, he has to score ! This is getting really serious !!! The more he takes the pitch (..the more he gains confidence .. ?! ) the more he is costing us the game, IMO. How exactly is it costing us the game?? Defenders doing idiotic mistakes cost you games, one bad miss while we are leading doesn't cost you a match. The other games when he was playing next to Pippo I don't count because he wasn't even getting the chances, let alone waste them. QUOTE (X-Offender @ Oct 25 2006, 10:01 PM) As for the Gila case, I have to agree with han. He looked sharp tonight, worked a lot and if he would have been a little more careful he might have scored that damn goal. But if we're talking about wasted goals, then I think you should go and blame Kakà and Borriello too, as they missed clear goal occasions aswell. As I said, if Gila keeps playing like this, he has my total support. Now let's go and get the merda! FORZA MILAN! Glad you don't just look at the situation as black and white. ONE bad miss and he is being slaughtered by everyone on here. But we forget to look at the positives of how he, Oli and Kaka where linking up with eachother, they where making spaces, clever runs and opening Chievo's defence wide open. QUOTE (pKillerMax @ Oct 25 2006, 10:02 PM) YES!!!This is not just about him anymore either... It's about Milan not affording to not score anymore... And Gila looks like he is getting used to the situation... which is bad bad news... WRONG!!! Again Kaka waisted chances, Oli wasted chances, Pippo when he was playing in other games wasted chances, those all cost us the games because we where drawing at the time, Gila's miss did not cost us the match. Again why don't you just get off his back???
This post has been edited by han2503: Oct 26 2006, 11:47 AM
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