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post Jan 29 2023, 01:57 PM
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QUOTE (han2503 @ Jan 29 2023, 01:55 PM) *
What the actual f@ck!!??

did you see how they came that that decision?? F@ck right off!


You mean the ball which was touched by Obiang? I don't know what the rule is in these cases. When Tonali crossed Rebic was offside, but I don't know if Obiang's touch cancels that.
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Pobega coming on. F@ck me.

Talk about a perfect symbol for why this season has gone down the sh!tter...
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QUOTE (X-Offender @ Jan 29 2023, 01:57 PM) *
You mean the ball which was touched by Obiang? I don't know what the rule is in these cases. When Tonali crossed Rebic was offside, but I don't know if Obiang's touch cancels that.

As far as I know that is how it works...

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post Jan 29 2023, 02:17 PM
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I come back, get ignored, we lose 2-5 and counting.

League tables don't usually lie, but Serie A did last year. Farce of a title.
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post Jan 29 2023, 02:19 PM
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So you instantly add some spice Danny, right?


I hope this is the end of Pioli. Maybe he resigns.
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post Jan 29 2023, 02:23 PM
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And we have the derby and Spurs coming up...

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QUOTE (Danny @ Jan 29 2023, 02:17 PM) *
I come back, get ignored, we lose 2-5 and counting.

League tables don't usually lie, but Serie A did last year. Farce of a title.

Last year we were good. Completely disagree with you there.

We were clutch when we needed to be, we soldiered through terrible injury plagued moments and had a flawless end to the season. Not to mention we were the best team against the top 6 sides.

Once again, we lost an important player in the summer that was not replaced. We did not strengthen the squad as one should after winning the title. We got weaker.

Now we've lost all confidence and we're spiralling. Don't tell me our team is worse than Sassuolo or Lazio. But we played like a Serie C side against both.

I don't think the players are trying to get Pioli fired because I really do think they all like him, but heads are down and a hiding against Lazio hasn't been enough and I don't think this hiding will be either.

We need to make a change and 3 players should have been brought in to help stem the bleeding. Once again, getting screwed over by sh!tty ownership. Now we risk losing out on CL, forget defending the Scudetto.
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QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Jan 29 2023, 02:19 PM) *
So you instantly add some spice Danny, right?


Haven't you missed me...

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I hope this is the end of Pioli. Maybe he resigns.


He's an Empoli manager. And exposed as such. He's been Claudio Ranieri in a nutshell but without Kante and Mahrez.
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I do not want to pile on Pioli. But I think it's time Paolo took the necessary decision.

Aside from going into crises and not being able to change anything. We've had a non-stop injury crises since he came on. Training methods and recover plans are obviously not good enough. Players who have missed nearly half the season out injured are now returning and completely look unprepared to play. Not to mention the incredible mystery of Maignan. Who had a simple muscle pull months ago and we still have no hint of when he'll return.

Just unacceptable.

The coach is responsible for bringing on training staff, and ours is clearly terrible
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QUOTE (han2503 @ Jan 29 2023, 02:28 PM) *
Last year we were good. Completely disagree with you there.

We were clutch when we needed to be,


Leave that in the NBA where it belongs.

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we soldiered through terrible injury plagued moments and had a flawless end to the season. Not to mention we were the best team against the top 6 sides.


Nope, no one can tell me we were legitimately a better football team than the teams behind us. You can fluke a title. Leicester did it. We did it.

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Once again, we lost an important player in the summer that was not replaced. We did not strengthen the squad as one should after winning the title. We got weaker.


Just like I warned after 2011. You discredited a much better Milan back then because you hated Allegri, and now you don't like it when I'm discrediting this shower of rubbish. You're not seriously telling me you pin all this on losing Kessie?

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Now we've lost all confidence and we're spiralling. Don't tell me our team is worse than Sassuolo or Lazio. But we played like a Serie C side against both.

I don't think the players are trying to get Pioli fired because I really do think they all like him, but heads are down and a hiding against Lazio hasn't been enough and I don't think this hiding will be either.

We need to make a change and 3 players should have been brought in to help stem the bleeding. Once again, getting screwed over by sh!tty ownership. Now we risk losing out on CL, forget defending the Scudetto.


Better we do lose out on UCL, painfully out of our depth at that level, we're the diddy side in the KO stage. Spurs might be flaky but they'll slap us.

This Milan is such a painful cry from Carlo and Allegri it's embarrassing.
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Sassuolo haven?t won a Serie A game since mid October...

Let that sink in and then I'll go stick my head in the oven
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QUOTE (han2503 @ Jan 29 2023, 02:34 PM) *
I do not want to pile on Pioli. But I think it's time Paolo took the necessary decision.

Aside from going into crises and not being able to change anything. We've had a non-stop injury crises since he came on. Training methods and recover plans are obviously not good enough.


Has there been a turnover of medical staff or are they same ones from the past 3 years?
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QUOTE (han2503 @ Jan 29 2023, 02:37 PM) *
Sassuolo haven?t won a Serie A game since mid October...

Let that sink in and then I'll go stick my head in the oven


Cooked Ham. Sorry, Han...
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QUOTE (Danny @ Jan 29 2023, 02:36 PM) *
Leave that in the NBA where it belongs.

We showed up in all the big games and even with our backs to the wall we pulled off wins. We were clutch.


QUOTE (Danny @ Jan 29 2023, 02:36 PM) *
Nope, no one can tell me we were legitimately a better football team than the teams behind us. You can fluke a title. Leicester did it. We did it.

Get off it with the Leicester comparison. We were nothing like Leicester.

This team has been steadily improving since 2019. Or are you saying the table was lying then as well? Just because we lost 2 games in a row does not negate a very good season where we were clearly better than all the other top teams. Which is not only corroborated by the greater amount of points than anyone else, but also with our record against the top 6 sides which was the best.

We did not fluke anything. We were the best team last season. Simple as that. Inter can cry all they want but when they had moments where they could have come up clutch they did not. Case in point, the derby and then the Bologna game they had in hand.

QUOTE (Danny @ Jan 29 2023, 02:36 PM) *
Just like I warned after 2011. You discredited a much better Milan back then because you hated Allegri, and now you don't like it when I'm discrediting this shower of rubbish. You're not seriously telling me you pin all this on losing Kessie?

That team in 2011 was on it's last breath. The important players were closer to 40 than to 30. Allegri is a one dimensional coach that needs difference makers to win games. All he knows how to do is set up a defensive system. Case in point when Zlatan left, we fell apart.

In this case, the management, or rather the ownership has simply put, failed this team and Pioli as well. We needed improvements after last season and we ended the summer weaker than we started it. The foundation for this title winning side is stronger than Allegri's one. Allegri's team was on it's last hurrah, this squad is mostly composed of young players who are still to even hit the peak of their powers with most not even at 25 yet. How can you tell me it's a much better Milan back then? That Milan was already on it's last few blows of wind when we won the CL under Carlo, let alone under Allegri. Allegri's team had no future. This one does. It just needed the right investment to take us to the next level as Paolo said in the interview in the summer, but once again, cheap ownership is screwing us over.

Kessie was a hugely important factor in our midfield composition you may disregard it as just losing Kessie. But replacing him with Pobega is a perfect symbol of why things have gone wrong. Last season we knew the squad wasn't the best in the league. Man for man, Inter were better, and probably Juve as well. We needed investment to bridge that small gap. Instead we went a step back.

The management or rather the ownership has simply put, failed this team and Pioli as well. We needed improvements after last season and we ended the summer weaker than we started it.

QUOTE (Danny @ Jan 29 2023, 02:36 PM) *
Better we do lose out on UCL, painfully out of our depth at that level, we're the diddy side in the KO stage. Spurs might be flaky but they'll slap us.

This Milan is such a painful cry from Carlo and Allegri it's embarrassing.

I disagree. We need that CL money. Without it we go back into the banter era.
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QUOTE (Danny @ Jan 29 2023, 02:37 PM) *
Has there been a turnover of medical staff or are they same ones from the past 3 years?

Have no clue.

But trainers come in with the coach. Those are part of the problem as well. Last season, this season and in 2020 we've had the most injuries in the league. Most of which being muscle related. That's down to training and prep.

Antonio Conte had Pintus at Inter when he won the title, with a much older side and they barely had a niggle all season
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