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post Jun 21 2022, 09:23 PM
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QUOTE (han2503 @ Jun 21 2022, 09:00 PM) *
True but again, the Maldini-Cardinale "good relationship" story comes from the media. Who have proven that they know absolute zilch about Milan at this point


It doesn't come from the media. It was Cardinale's own words from an interview he released on the Financial Times.

"For me it was very important to conquer Maldini. We ended up spending three and a half hours together. It was great."

Regarding the budget, Tuttosport today reported we'll have a budget of 60m. Longo yesterday said 45m. Gazzetta two weeks ago said 100m. These journalists are a bunch of hypocrites. Italian journalism has truly reached rock bottom. Whenever they don't have any information about a specific story they start writing BS after BS just to fill their columns. Pathetic.
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post Jun 22 2022, 11:42 AM
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Paolo and Massara signed renewals with Milan.

Official communication expected today.
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post Jun 22 2022, 07:11 PM
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No reports whatsoever of any renewals yet.
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post Jun 24 2022, 07:43 PM
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Botman to Newcastle done deal for 45m bonuses included.

Can't say I can blame anyone for this. That is an insane amount that we could never match.

Now before anyone jumps the gun and says we need to focus on Bremer, just don't forget that he costs a shitload of money as well.
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post Jun 25 2022, 11:33 AM
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QUOTE (X-Offender @ Jun 21 2022, 09:23 PM) *
It doesn't come from the media. It was Cardinale's own words from an interview he released on the Financial Times.

"For me it was very important to conquer Maldini. We ended up spending three and a half hours together. It was great."

Regarding the budget, Tuttosport today reported we'll have a budget of 60m. Longo yesterday said 45m. Gazzetta two weeks ago said 100m. These journalists are a bunch of hypocrites. Italian journalism has truly reached rock bottom. Whenever they don't have any information about a specific story they start writing BS after BS just to fill their columns. Pathetic.

We'll see. We are on day 25 of June. 1 week before their contracts expire basically and still silence. Paolo was seen boarding a flight to Ibiza...

Just not reassuring atm. This should have been sorted out weeks ago. Botman got tired of waiting, and Lille were pushing him to take the Newcastle offer. We couldn't give him guarantees. So I don't blame him for making the choice he needed to make. The same will happen with Renato if PSG send in an official offer (so far they haven't according to Di Marzio). I'm not that worried about losing out on Botman. Just bring in a promising CB for the future and we're sorted there. Someone with a similar profile to Tomori but with a bit more imposing physique would be ideal. The key is that whoever it is is quick and athletic. CBs like Romagnoli should be avoided.

I really hope we do not lose out on Renato. He's the one I was most excited about. Because he'll transform our transitional play. Just have to get that done.

QUOTE (X-Offender @ Jun 24 2022, 07:43 PM) *
Botman to Newcastle done deal for 45m bonuses included.

Can't say I can blame anyone for this. That is an insane amount that we could never match.

Now before anyone jumps the gun and says we need to focus on Bremer, just don't forget that he costs a shitload of money as well.

They still keep saying 30m when linking him to Inter. Which makes absolutely no sense. If that is really the sum we should put our hat in the ring. If he's a lot more than that then it does not make sense that Inter would sell Skriniar only to spend more that 3/4 of that money on Bremer.
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post Jun 25 2022, 11:37 AM
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Btw, talks for Ziyech are on going, and it seems pretty serious if both Romano and Di Marzio are reporting it. He'd be perfect for our RW, maybe he's not a young prospect like a CDK but he'll be a huge upgrade in that position

Not to mention we could probably do a loan + option deal which would give us more room to maneuver in terms of budget while sorting out a huge headache in that RW area
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post Jun 25 2022, 01:32 PM
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QUOTE (han2503 @ Jun 25 2022, 11:33 AM) *
We'll see. We are on day 25 of June. 1 week before their contracts expire basically and still silence. Paolo was seen boarding a flight to Ibiza...

Just not reassuring atm. This should have been sorted out weeks ago. Botman got tired of waiting, and Lille were pushing him to take the Newcastle offer. We couldn't give him guarantees. So I don't blame him for making the choice he needed to make. The same will happen with Renato if PSG send in an official offer (so far they haven't according to Di Marzio). I'm not that worried about losing out on Botman. Just bring in a promising CB for the future and we're sorted there. Someone with a similar profile to Tomori but with a bit more imposing physique would be ideal. The key is that whoever it is is quick and athletic. CBs like Romagnoli should be avoided.

I really hope we do not lose out on Renato. He's the one I was most excited about. Because he'll transform our transitional play. Just have to get that done.


Difficult to sort out easily such a messed up situation. It's not a simple renewal, but a delegation of authority from Gazidis and Elliott to Maldini. In addition, Paolo wants reassurance on the budget. He's tired of scavenging for players, and he thinks a team that just won the scudetto and wishes to improve should increase their spending.

I totally agree with him on this matter. But Elliott are the owners until RedBird take over, and RedBird themselves wish to pursue the same philosophy.

QUOTE (han2503 @ Jun 25 2022, 11:33 AM) *
They still keep saying 30m when linking him to Inter. Which makes absolutely no sense. If that is really the sum we should put our hat in the ring. If he's a lot more than that then it does not make sense that Inter would sell Skriniar only to spend more that 3/4 of that money on Bremer.


Forget about Bremer and forget about Inter. If we couldn't sign Botman then we won't sign Bremer either. Acerbi's name being thrown around ( (IMG:style_emoticons/default/puke.gif) ) alongside Thiaw and some other nobodies. Also, Romagnoli's renewal is being considered again.
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post Jun 25 2022, 01:33 PM
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QUOTE (han2503 @ Jun 25 2022, 11:37 AM) *
Btw, talks for Ziyech are on going, and it seems pretty serious if both Romano and Di Marzio are reporting it. He'd be perfect for our RW, maybe he's not a young prospect like a CDK but he'll be a huge upgrade in that position

Not to mention we could probably do a loan + option deal which would give us more room to maneuver in terms of budget while sorting out a huge headache in that RW area


If we could get him on loan then excellent, otherwise I wouldn't spend 25m on a 29-year-old.
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post Jun 25 2022, 05:13 PM
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QUOTE (X-Offender @ Jun 25 2022, 01:32 PM) *
Difficult to sort out easily such a messed up situation. It's not a simple renewal, but a delegation of authority from Gazidis and Elliott to Maldini. In addition, Paolo wants reassurance on the budget. He's tired of scavenging for players, and he thinks a team that just won the scudetto and wishes to improve should increase their spending.

I totally agree with him on this matter. But Elliott are the owners until RedBird take over, and RedBird themselves wish to pursue the same philosophy.



Forget about Bremer and forget about Inter. If we couldn't sign Botman then we won't sign Bremer either. Acerbi's name being thrown around ( (IMG:style_emoticons/default/puke.gif) ) alongside Thiaw and some other nobodies. Also, Romagnoli's renewal is being considered again.

But these are things they knew ahead of time before the change of ownership went through

I don't know, it just seems careless to leave this until the last minute when you have a management team that has been so effective and the new owners are obviously on the same page with wanting to keep them on. Then I don't see what the problem is.

Paolo is not asking for City/PSG type budgets FFS. Just something decent to work with and more say. That is a no-brainer if you are serious about advancing the project.

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If we could get him on loan then excellent, otherwise I wouldn't spend 25m on a 29-year-old.

Ziyech would do great in Serie A. And perfect for us in that he's an AM/RW. I don't think this it would be 25m but close to it. The loan + option formula gives us a chance to see how influential he could be on the team without sinking a lot of money in the deal
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Btw, no way we'd even consider Acerbi.

This is not 2009.
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post Jun 25 2022, 05:31 PM
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QUOTE (han2503 @ Jun 25 2022, 05:13 PM) *
But these are things they knew ahead of time before the change of ownership went through

I don't know, it just seems careless to leave this until the last minute when you have a management team that has been so effective and the new owners are obviously on the same page with wanting to keep them on. Then I don't see what the problem is.

Paolo is not asking for City/PSG type budgets FFS. Just something decent to work with and more say. That is a no-brainer if you are serious about advancing the project.


I think the change in ownership negotiations overshadowed the issue of Maldini and Massara's renewals. But in my opinion they should have been offered new contracts as early as January given their excellent work.

The problem is that Paolo has established some demands that Elliott does not seem to want to satisfy. Like full authority when signing players and an ideal budget. In my opinion, this has been the nucleus of negotiations in the past month. Paolo does seem to have Cardinale's backing but not so much Elliott's. They never had a good relationship when you really think about it.

What would be an ideal budget? For me it would be 100m, easily. Or at least 75m like last summer. Anything less is hypocritical. I mean, Botman alone cost 40m to Newcastle. How are we expected to compete with that?

QUOTE (han2503 @ Jun 25 2022, 05:13 PM) *
Ziyech would do great in Serie A. And perfect for us in that he's an AM/RW. I don't think this it would be 25m but close to it. The loan + option formula gives us a chance to see how influential he could be on the team without sinking a lot of money in the deal


It'd have to be at least 24m because that's how much Ziyech weighs on Chelsea's books right now. And English clubs rarely take on losses on disposal.
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QUOTE (han2503 @ Jun 25 2022, 05:14 PM) *
Btw, no way we'd even consider Acerbi.

This is not 2009.

WTF did I say this???

Di Marzio saying talks ongoing with his agents. FML!!

So all the budget will be going to midfield and attack. So it probably is true that it is limited. But why not just renew Rmagnoli? We're basically signing a deteriorated version of the player we're losing...
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QUOTE (X-Offender @ Jun 25 2022, 05:31 PM) *
I think the change in ownership negotiations overshadowed the issue of Maldini and Massara's renewals. But in my opinion they should have been offered new contracts as early as January given their excellent work.

The problem is that Paolo has established some demands that Elliott does not seem to want to satisfy. Like full authority when signing players and an ideal budget. In my opinion, this has been the nucleus of negotiations in the past month. Paolo does seem to have Cardinale's backing but not so much Elliott's. They never had a good relationship when you really think about it.

What would be an ideal budget? For me it would be 100m, easily. Or at least 75m like last summer. Anything less is hypocritical. I mean, Botman alone cost 40m to Newcastle. How are we expected to compete with that?

We'll see, I don't want to start being overly critical or doubtful of this new ownership when they haven't even really taken over the club as of yet. But these things jus reek of incompetency for me. We've already wasted a month of the transfer window. And when you consider the Botman and Sanches BS it makes it even worse

Yeah, the budget has to be decent. 45m is the budget of a mid-table team. Our management and scouting has done wonders but even that is going too far.

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It'd have to be at least 24m because that's how much Ziyech weighs on Chelsea's books right now. And English clubs rarely take on losses on disposal.

I think Ziyech is worth that amount. Especially if it's on a trial basis. He's a quality player. How many quality players can you buy below the sum of 35m in today's football?

I know he's 29 so that's not ideal but he has 4 top years left in him imo so His age at this point doesn't really worry me, especially if we're pursuing CDK
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Acerbi would be the worst possible signing. A player I have always considered garbage, seeing him now at my club??? No, please, just no. It's like teasing us with Botman and then stabbing us in the back.
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QUOTE (X-Offender @ Jun 25 2022, 11:45 PM) *
Acerbi would be the worst possible signing. A player I have always considered garbage, seeing him now at my club??? No, please, just no. It's like teasing us with Botman and then stabbing us in the back.

Exactly.

If this is the plan just give Alessio the 3.5m he wanted and be done with it.

I understand not wanting to spend big on a CB after finishing the season with the best defense in the league. Mostly thanks to that ridiculous partnership between Fik and Kaluli which only became a thing later on in the season. So we don't really need a top level CB just someone to complete the defensive line. But Acerbi is just not the solution.
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