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post Jan 16 2021, 07:12 PM
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Rumors that Juve is after Piattek (link). Probably fake news, but it is kind of funny.
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post Jan 16 2021, 08:10 PM
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QUOTE (han2503 @ Jan 16 2021, 06:10 PM) *
It's a loan, so it's a low risk operation. We need a CB now, we can't face another emergency like we did in December. I don't think we'll manage to blow past that type of crises again in February when we have some really tough fixtures.

I read somewhere that it would be an 18 month loan, so we'd have to take up that option the following summer should we want to keep him. If that is the case it would give us more time to get the finances in order, especially if we make it consistently into the CL by then


The Daily Telegraph says Chelsea have not accepted the 18 months loan option. They want 6 month loan and option to buy for 30M, otherwise we can f*ck off.

They also say we were interested in Tomori last season as well, but Lampard didn't want to let him go.

How good is this Tomori kid anyway? If Lampard values him so much, why doesn't he play him?

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Agreed regarding the fact that it is the only position where we need to improve the starting player rather than the depth. However, I still think we'll have more options in the summer. I read that Thauvin is demanding a high wage, which is not unusual for a free transfer, but we cannot afford to bring in someone like that with a high wage. We're haggling with Hakan, who has been one of our most influential players under Pioli, I doubt we'd give Thauvin the 5m he's reportedly demanding

So we could look at other options in the summer when clubs are more willing to sell


How good is Thauvin? I've never seen him play, just YouTube clips. Doesn't exactly look that exciting from that.
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post Jan 16 2021, 10:20 PM
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QUOTE (X-Offender @ Jan 16 2021, 08:10 PM) *
The Daily Telegraph says Chelsea have not accepted the 18 months loan option. They want 6 month loan and option to buy for 30M, otherwise we can f*ck off.

They also say we were interested in Tomori last season as well, but Lampard didn't want to let him go.

How good is this Tomori kid anyway? If Lampard values him so much, why doesn't he play him?



How good is Thauvin? I've never seen him play, just YouTube clips. Doesn't exactly look that exciting from that.

As I said earlier, I've been lurking around Chelsea twitter, and they are not happy about this and think it could bite them back similar to Salah, De Bruyne and Lukaku. So the seem to rate him rather highly

As for Thauvin, I know as much as you. The nicest thing about him is that he's free. But we're not going to be paying him astronomical wages, so if 5m is his asking price, he won't come eitherway
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post Jan 17 2021, 01:26 PM
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Looks like Mandzukic is a done deal
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Tomori also very close according to Vito Angele, who's pretty accurate

I think if we have an option on him and he does well we should take it. If he becomes a top CB while at Milan, we could literally ask English clubs for any sum for him and they'd pay it. They're idiots when it comes to English players. Look at Maguire
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post Jan 17 2021, 02:32 PM
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I'm faithful in Mandzukic. He's always stricken me as a very professional player, so the fact he hasn't played at high levels for some time doesn't bother me that much.
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post Jan 17 2021, 04:02 PM
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QUOTE (han2503 @ Jan 17 2021, 01:26 PM) *
Looks like Mandzukic is a done deal


Delighted with that one.
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QUOTE (han2503 @ Jan 17 2021, 01:29 PM) *
If he becomes a top CB while at Milan, we could literally ask English clubs for any sum for him and they'd pay it. They're idiots when it comes to English players. Look at Maguire


Why would we want to sell him if he becomes a top CB? We?re singing for our future defense, not to eventually cash in.
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post Jan 17 2021, 04:49 PM
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Because selling him for insane money is what will bring us profit. I don't think Tomori is the new Maldini. If we can sell a top defender at a multiple inflated prize, I'm all for it. We can buy ourselves 2-3 addition afterwards.

But anyway, let's not get ahead too quick. We haven't really signed him yet.
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QUOTE (Forza Milan! @ Jan 16 2021, 09:12 PM) *
Rumors that Juve is after Piattek (link). Probably fake news, but it is kind of funny.

Yesh, really funny.
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post Jan 17 2021, 05:27 PM
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QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Jan 17 2021, 04:49 PM) *
Because selling him for insane money is what will bring us profit. I don't think Tomori is the new Maldini. If we can sell a top defender at a multiple inflated prize, I'm all for it. We can buy ourselves 2-3 addition afterwards.

But anyway, let's not get ahead too quick. We haven't really signed him yet.


I know we've become a club that goes for young and relatively cheap players, but I don't think we've become a club that sell its top players for profit.

The idea is to create value by becoming competitive with little money spent and a contained wage bill. We're not Udinese.
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post Jan 17 2021, 06:08 PM
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QUOTE (X-Offender @ Jan 17 2021, 06:27 PM) *
I know we've become a club that goes for young and relatively cheap players, but I don't think we've become a club that sell its top players for profit.

The idea is to create value by becoming competitive with little money spent and a contained wage bill. We're not Udinese.

Agreed ... but is Tomori going to be a "top player"?

What I hope will happen over time is that we will get players that are an improvement over the player covering the same role (rather than good backups). If that happens, we may start selling some of our better players (keeping our best players, of course). That can help fund future addition to the team.

So not the "Atalanta model" but a way to get to the top in a sustainable manner.
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post Jan 17 2021, 06:53 PM
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QUOTE (Forza Milan! @ Jan 17 2021, 06:08 PM) *
Agreed ... but is Tomori going to be a "top player"?


Nobody knows. But I don't think we're willing to spend 30M for a player with the "hope" that he will become a top player so we can sell him for three times that price. I think we're buying him because we believe he can become a vital part of our project and he can cover the CB position in the long run, so we won't have to spend any more in that role. This is how I think the club operates nowadays, why it goes after young, promising players.
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post Jan 17 2021, 08:51 PM
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QUOTE (X-Offender @ Jan 17 2021, 07:53 PM) *
Nobody knows. But I don't think we're willing to spend 30M for a player with the "hope" that he will become a top player so we can sell him for three times that price. I think we're buying him because we believe he can become a vital part of our project and he can cover the CB position in the long run, so we won't have to spend any more in that role. This is how I think the club operates nowadays, why it goes after young, promising players.

I understand :-). I also like the fact that it is a "try and buy" situation. As for the player, he is fast (which is something we need) but not all that reliable defensively. This means if he works out we have options, starter level players with different characteristic, so we can pick depending on who we play against. Add Gabbia for coverage (plus maybe Kalulu), and for now we are set, which means we will focus in other areas.

That said, it will be interesting to see how we operate in the long run. Assume we start getting CL money and have made improvements in other roles. Let's say we find another CB, an improvement over current players. I can see us going for that and selling one of our current CBs (hopefully for a profit). Will see ..
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post Jan 17 2021, 09:30 PM
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QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Jan 17 2021, 04:50 PM) *
Yesh, really funny.


Sarcasm?
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