I don't disapprove at all. I disapprove of a guy like Kyle Walker costing 50M - THAT is what dilutes the likes of Neymar being worth 200M.

Don't get me wrong, 200M is crazy, but it's the market rate for such a player. Many would actually say it's cheap!

The Neymar sum is also excessive. He's not worth that, not in a million years. I would argue that neither Ronaldo or Messie are worth that either.

As for the Zidane discussion above. Bring him to Milan and we'll see what he can do. He walked into a situation where he already had a top class side that had been playing together for a while already.

What is worth? What a release clause is? What the buying club is willing to pay? What the player will earn the club in marketing profit?

Football numbers went silly, but they went silly a long long time ago. Zidane wasn't worth 45M, Kaka wasn't worth 59M, Lentini wasn't worth 13M.

Every new generation it's new 'crazy' prices.

We paid roughly for Silva what Real paid for Zidane.

I don't know if that's crazier or less crazy than Neymar at 200M.

Nah, but that's my point. You could argue that if Kyle Walker is worth 50 MM then Neymar is indeed worth 200 MM right?

The point is the footballing economy has expanded at the high end of the market and these are going to be the prices we'll see. Kessie at 28 MM is looking like an absolute fricking steal.

Zidane - I already mentioned what I thought. He doesn't have to be a tactical mastermind. What he's done is taken those 20-24 players and rotated them really well while keeping morale up. I guess he's learnt from Carlo, Mourinho and Benitez. Real's team are so damn good, you don't need too much tactical tinkering to make it work. Keep the players fresh and happy and they'll do it for you. Of course that's incredibly hard in a team of egos like that, so a lot of credit to Zidane for that.

I mean he had a peak fitness CR7 at the fag end of the season. That's amazing squad planning.

These figures are crazy! I can not understand how you boys find closure in stating its the going rate of today.

For starters he is one player, God forbid he breaks a leg?

Secondly; he hasn't won a WC, he hasn't dazzled as had Ronaldo 'ilfenomeno' or Ronaldinho. Regadless, even if he had, 200M+ is the type of money you would build a factory for. A factory that actually benefits the economy, the producer, buyer and seller.

The world has definitely gone bonkers. PSG and the Qatar money is sickening to the point that football is not fun anymore! FFS Milan was sold for 700M. Neymars price tag alone represents 30% of that value! And both transactions happened in 2017.


There is no way this is justifiable. Even if they sold 1billion Neymar shirts, its not justifiable. Insert puke smiley.

EDIT: Coincidentally a bloomberg article over the neymar thing

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At our peak we broke the world record transfer in 2009. At another peak we did it in 91 with Lentini.

In fact, we're one to talk about crazy figures.

I'm not justifying the numbers, I'm saying we're as guilty as anyone, and any fan reacting with disgust is simply disappointed it's not their club doing it.

The day Milan pay quarter of a billion for one player is the day i stop watching Milan.

Breaking the record is one thing, Madrid did it with CR and United did it with Pogba. But 200M is the type of money you buy both rangers and celtic.

There is logic danny, then there is crazy. This one is crazy. Makes no sense at all.

Further please justify 600K per week after taxes for wages? Its bonkers i tell you.

In 1979 Nottingham Forest paid £1M for Trevor Francies.

In 1961 footballers got £20 a week. In 2011 the average was 35K.

You, right now, are someone from 1961 astonished that 50 years has seen inflation of simply impossible levels.

You're someone in 1978 who was disgusted that there was talk of a player going for a MILLION.

A MILLION.

Back in 2009 the idea of £50M being a casual sum was just appalling. The idea of paying Porto 40M for a youth player fairly untested was just absolutely appalling.

There is no day you will stop supporting Milan, because if your principles were consistent you would have done it a long time ago.

You're here for the long haul. It's sad now but one day 200M will be quite normal for a player.

In the world of finance they call it inflation. We have not reached that level yet.

What happened was Barca put a stupid clause that noone in his right mind would activate. And PSG did because of crazy money.

If you still believe this is normal its fine, do not need to convince, its my understanding vs yours.

It's as if you basically ignored everything I just said. If you don't think £20 in 1960 to £35k a week in 2011 is that level there's not much i can do.



Ok now you're basically saying clauses are nonsense. No one thinks Belotti is worth 100M but that's the 'stupid clause' you quote.

Those clauses are there to protect the club from losing the player for less than he's worth. Most teams put them in.

We activated Silva's, as you know. He is no more worth 40M than Neymar is worth 200M. But it is what it is.



Didn't say it's fine, said it's the way it is. I'm not trying to convince you of anything beyond the harsh reality that this is the way things are.

And your morals on it are selective at best. If you really believed your steadfast view on this you'd have given football up a decade or more ago. Or the day we activated Silva's release clause.

I'm not righteously justifying it, I'm explaining it. And this is my last comment on this matter (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

Nice 0-2 Napoli

The last time Italy had three teams in the group stages was in 2013-14.

Watched some of this - Napoli benefited from a dreadful delay in getting Balotelli on. I think Nice were down to 10 men. That made it 0-1.

Depending how this season goes they could well have four next season.

They will have four regardless. UEFA passed new rules that Italy, England, Spain and Germany will each have four teams going straight into the group stages starting from next season. In other words, if we finish 4th this season we won't have to go through any play-offs.

Hmm, Balotelli played from the start. And there were no cards whatsoever in the game.