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post Sep 12 2016, 10:34 PM
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QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Sep 12 2016, 07:26 PM) *
They did get the call. Apparently both felt Milan was moving in the wrong direction and were surprised with this Interista thing.

But I have to disagree. To an extent it bothers me. I expect the new Milan to have a clear vision and plan. What are we doing right now? Picking up ex-Juve and Inter rejects? Why aren't we trying to bring in a breeze of freshness and vision?

You say they are business people and professionals. But unless they are not super successful, which none of them is, I most certainly prefer own ingenuity and people connected to the club and what Milan represents/represented. Almost all top clubs have such a line. Look at Bayern with Rummenigge, Hoeness and Beckenbauer.


I heard otherwise. Fassone didn't call them, and that's what probably bothers them. I guess they felt it was their time to come back, but that didn't happen hence all the bitterness.

Nevertheless, I don't agree with your thinking. First of all, why consider Fassone a reject? Just because he was let go by Inter? That was due to his tense relationship with Inter's CEO Bolingbroke, not due to his incompetence. People change jobs all the time, doesn't make them rejects. By that logic, Braida was also a reject when Barça hired him.

Secondly, Fassone worked for Napoli, Juve and Inter. Doesn't make him an interista. Same with Mirabelli. He was with Inter for less than two years, and previously worked his @ss off with smaller clubs to get where he is today.

Seems very narrow-minded and unfair to me to complain like this so early when nothing has been laid out yet. Just because a couple of milanistas are whining doesn't make their criticism legitimate. And let's be honest here. Costacurta has always been a massive tightass.
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post Sep 12 2016, 11:09 PM
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So what have Fassone and Mirabelli done that you put so much faith in them?
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QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Sep 12 2016, 11:09 PM) *
So what have Fassone and Mirabelli done that you put so much faith in them?


What should have they done to warrant the faith you require?

Fassone has plenty of experience, we all know who he is.

As for Mirabelli, let me cite you what Calciomercato.com had to say about him:

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From Lega Pro he moves to Sunderland, and after the brief English experience, Mirabelli joined the Inter staff in 2014 as head of the observers. Within a very short period of time, Ausilio understands that he is dealing with a totally reliable professional. Despite signing for such a big club, he does not lose the old habits learned on provincial fields: Mirabelli spends two months a year in South America looking for talent to be recommended to the first team. A thing that may seem obvious, but which is not considering the stereotypical modern observer, more used to view films indoors of a hotel room than in person at the stadium stands. And he who understands football knows that there's a world of difference between the two ways of doing things. The Calabrian executive is not parlor man, he does not call agents to bring him this or that player, but chooses them in person. Mirabelli never stops. After his return from South America, his schedule includes an extensive tour around Europe. He barely takes holidays. He has reported several players to Inter, including Murillo and Perisic. The last on the list is Gabriel Jesus, whom the Nerazzurri have snapped from Juventus and Barcelona. Even the arrival of Brozovic is the result of his reporting. Not to mention Aubameyang (for whom he fought a lot, unfortunately without success) and Bruma.

That's why Fassone is considering seriously the idea to hire him as the Milan sporting director. He believes that Mirabelli is the perfect figure to revive the club. Somebody of his profile has been sorely missing for too long from the parts of Milanello, since Galliani has virtually monopolized the mercato of the Rossoneri tying it to a narrow range of agents. Fassone wants a man of the field, totally detached from such ways of doing things that should no longer exist. Mirabelli would respond with facts and hard work. Besides, this is the real task of a respectful sporting director: find talent, get to them and take them before others do.


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post Sep 13 2016, 03:44 AM
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QUOTE (X-Offender @ Sep 13 2016, 12:43 AM) *
What should have they done to warrant the faith you require?

Fassone has plenty of experience, we all know who he is.

As for Mirabelli, let me cite you what Calciomercato.com had to say about him:

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I agree. We are not going to instantly go back to what we were a decade ago, we need to re-build and it will take a little time. And based on what I have seen, Fassone + Mirabelli feel like a good start. Also, I believe it is Fassone's intention to bring one of the Milan legends for a meaningful role.

The sale is not even complete yet (and will not be for several weeks), give the new management team a little time!
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post Sep 13 2016, 09:30 AM
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All I've read about Mirabelli makes me thing he's the ideal scout or Chief of the scouting staff. I honestly don't see the point of a Footballing director who spends 2 months in SA and tours around Europe. Because that's the only good thing about him I hear.

You ask what they should have done? Perhaps some concrete results? Galliani has also plenty of experience. But nevermind. I see now that you guys don't feel this is a problem.
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QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Sep 13 2016, 10:30 AM) *
All I've read about Mirabelli makes me thing he's the ideal scout or Chief of the scouting staff. I honestly don't see the point of a Footballing director who spends 2 months in SA and tours around Europe. Because that's the only good thing about him I hear.

You ask what they should have done? Perhaps some concrete results? Galliani has also plenty of experience. But nevermind. I see now that you guys don't feel this is a problem.

Concrete results? Really? They are not even in charge yet! They will not be in charge for several weeks. What results do you expect?

As for Mirabelli, I would expect he will send someone else to do the scouting. It is the attitude that matters. Scouting rather than paying ridiculous money to agents. Money that could be spent on players.
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Previous results.
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Fassone has contacted Maldini to offer him a return to Milan and is waiting for his response.
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QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Sep 13 2016, 12:50 PM) *
Previous results.

Galliani got plenty of results, are you arguing we should stick with him? If not, who did you have in mind? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

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Fassone has contacted Maldini to offer him a return to Milan and is waiting for his response.
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Strange, I thought we were only going after interisti ...
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Fassone is evidently trying to quite down the critics, which is good.

No. I just want to know why you all put so much faith into those guys? Sure, Fassone was at Juve, Napoli and Inter. Mirabelli at Sunderland and Inter. But what have they achieved so far?

Galliani achieved all and ruined all. He's finished, his time is over.
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Daniele Massaro: "I'd return to Milan for free. The name is not enough to become a coach and it's not easy to be a director"
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Maybe han2503 is right and it's all rumours, but the original names all proposed were former Inter directors. And that pissed me off completely. I'll be blunt, I'd much rather have Galliani with money to spend rather than a bunch of ex-Interistas who till about 4 years ago were chasing our dust. Even now they haven't come close to being the premier Milanese club.

I just hope that the two Chinese owners don't get the bright idea of merging the two clubs into one because they think it makes sense. Like Lenovo and Motorola or something.
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QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Sep 13 2016, 02:44 PM) *
Fassone is evidently trying to quite down the critics, which is good.

No. I just want to know why you all put so much faith into those guys? Sure, Fassone was at Juve, Napoli and Inter. Mirabelli at Sunderland and Inter. But what have they achieved so far?

Galliani achieved all and ruined all. He's finished, his time is over.


I have faith in Mirabelli given what I've read about him. And Fassone seems to have a very clear idea about how to build this team into a winning one. That's all I need to know. Their past matters little to me.

QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Sep 13 2016, 05:11 PM) *
Maybe han2503 is right and it's all rumours, but the original names all proposed were former Inter directors. And that pissed me off completely. I'll be blunt, I'd much rather have Galliani with money to spend rather than a bunch of ex-Interistas who till about 4 years ago were chasing our dust. Even now they haven't come close to being the premier Milanese club.

I just hope that the two Chinese owners don't get the bright idea of merging the two clubs into one because they think it makes sense. Like Lenovo and Motorola or something.


I doubt you guys minded when we picked from Inter the various Seedorf, Pirlo, Simic etc. Why should it be different now? This willingness to label people as ex-this or ex-that, seems very childish to me.
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Childish? You seem to forget that football isn't just "business as usual" and completely dispassionate.

Seedorf and Pirlo are hardly comparable examples, but if you like I can explain.
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QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Sep 13 2016, 11:02 PM) *
Childish? You seem to forget that football isn't just "business as usual" and completely dispassionate.

Seedorf and Pirlo are hardly comparable examples, but if you like I can explain.


Football is business. The Chinese are spending nearly a billion euro in this project, and they don't want that their investment goes to waste. These guys are not stupid, they've done their homework. And they've pin-pointed in Fassone the adequate person to re-design the organizational chart of the club from scratch.

You can say whatever you want about Fassone, but he is a well respected figure with lots of experience. Yet yours and many others' argument is that he is an ex-interista, who's bringing more interistas inside the club (even though Fassone and Mirabelli can hardly be considered that given their very brief period at Inter). Such line of thinking is childish.

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