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post Jun 29 2016, 02:40 PM
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QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Jun 29 2016, 11:03 AM) *
If we're having Montella, we need to get a couple of leaders in the dressing room. We know Montolivo is no captain, and Abate doesn't have the CV to pull it off.

Bring us Van Bommel !!
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post Jun 29 2016, 09:19 PM
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QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Jun 28 2016, 07:25 PM) *
Maybe a decade ago you could say that. Montella took a bad team to a European regular. That's something we haven't had for a few years. This isn't 2003 anymore, Milan are a bigger club than Fiorentina, but this is essentially a sideways step at best for him. So the idea that a top coach would take the job when Chelsea, Man City, Bayern Munich roles were all available was nothing but a dream.

Having said that (I agree with your points), don't you think we could have looked at a bigger name with more experience? Pellegrini was available, I don't think he's spectacular or anything close to that but I think he's good and he's had success with smaller teams.

I just feel like this appointment and all the players we're looking at reek of Berlu and Galliani's work. We've signed an Italian Serie B striker to (most likely) replace Bacca. We're looking at guys like Soriano for the midfield when we should be looking at much better players especially in that position.

It feels like the ridiculous ItalMilan plan is still underway and that just plain scares the sh!t out of me

QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Jun 29 2016, 07:03 AM) *
(IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) I'm in the minority then. I still don't think we wasted the majority of the transfer money this season. There was really only Bertolacci and the jury is still out. What if he turns out good this season. It won't be the first time we've had such a case in football, when someone turned things around.

I'm on the fence with Montella. I think he is definitely an ambitious coach, and he has played football in the recent era so he should in 'theory' connect with the dressing room - but has not been known as a character. Will he put those dgaf players into line or will he crib and demand transfers as the solution to everything?

If we're having Montella, we need to get a couple of leaders in the dressing room. We know Montolivo is no captain, and Abate doesn't have the CV to pull it off.

Bertalocci is weak, both physically and mentally. He's just not good enough and certainly not worth the money Galliani wasted on him when we could have gotten Witsel for that amount
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post Jun 30 2016, 08:00 AM
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Yeah Bertolacci. Maybe he'll show us something. Or maybe he's another player like Poli. Great in a mid-tier side.

But you're right no big names are being talked about. I think those will come into play only once the takeover is made official - if it becomes official at all. The Chinese investors will want to take credit for the big buys and so we wouldn't hear about them now.

Other news, de Sciglio has been declared unselleable along with Gigio. Calabria may therefore be loaned out to Cagliari.
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post Jun 30 2016, 08:35 AM
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Calabria is a right back though, yes?

As for Bertolacci, I don't think he's any good. Looks to me completely useless, but hey we paid much for him, perhaps we should try another time. Pirlo wasn't any good at Inter as well.
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post Jun 30 2016, 10:13 AM
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QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Jun 30 2016, 03:05 PM) *
Calabria is a right back though, yes?

As for Bertolacci, I don't think he's any good. Looks to me completely useless, but hey we paid much for him, perhaps we should try another time. Pirlo wasn't any good at Inter as well.


I feel the problem is Bertolacci plays the exact same position as Bonaventura but in a different sort of way. If we only had a Di Maria sort of player to play in our deep midfield, a player like Bertolacci then becomes a huge asset, because there is someone who is running into space and attacking the goal.

Both Jack and Berto are more ponderous on the ball. Jack much less so, plus he isn't afraid to dribble at the flanks and cut in. Hence he's an automatic selection.

Soriano brought in will almost definitely spell the end of Berto though. Don't think he can be deep lying mid at all.
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QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Jun 30 2016, 08:00 AM) *
Yeah Bertolacci. Maybe he'll show us something. Or maybe he's another player like Poli. Great in a mid-tier side.

But you're right no big names are being talked about. I think those will come into play only once the takeover is made official - if it becomes official at all. The Chinese investors will want to take credit for the big buys and so we wouldn't hear about them now.

Other news, de Sciglio has been declared unselleable along with Gigio. Calabria may therefore be loaned out to Cagliari.

That's my personal opinion of him yes. I really don't think he'll be any good for us and the only reason we'll try to make it work is because he cost us so much. Especially when we could have gotten Witsel last summer for the kind of money we spent on Berto

What worries me most is that we're basically looking at the same type of player that we have been looking at for years now. Scouring the league for mid-level talent who just had a slightly above average season with the likes of Genoa, Empoli etc.

If we're going after Italian players then we should be looking at the really talented ones like Berardi for example (Montella will use wingers I'm hearing). If we have money to spend then we should go for the right kind of talent not just random names simply because of who their agent is or because they play for Genoa.

I honestly don't know when we'll see the true spending power of the new owners. It's not even really official yet so all the cynicism from us (especially me) might be premature, but we've been burned one too many times now

QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Jun 30 2016, 08:35 AM) *
Calabria is a right back though, yes?

As for Bertolacci, I don't think he's any good. Looks to me completely useless, but hey we paid much for him, perhaps we should try another time. Pirlo wasn't any good at Inter as well.

They're going to send him on loan though. I think that we signed Vangioni as well (don't ask, I really don't know anything about this but read it earlier this summer. Don't even know if it's official tbh)

So I think they might be going for DS, Abate for the right side, Antonelli and this guy for the left. (I think DS is a much better LB than he is a RB but that's whole other conversation altogether)

Also, I've been reading around and apparently Montella wants quality mids, especially a regista, so expect us to be linked to every mid in the league. So far it's Soriano, Kovacic, Paredes, Fernando, Zielinski and Badelj

QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Jun 30 2016, 10:13 AM) *
I feel the problem is Bertolacci plays the exact same position as Bonaventura but in a different sort of way. If we only had a Di Maria sort of player to play in our deep midfield, a player like Bertolacci then becomes a huge asset, because there is someone who is running into space and attacking the goal.

Both Jack and Berto are more ponderous on the ball. Jack much less so, plus he isn't afraid to dribble at the flanks and cut in. Hence he's an automatic selection.

Soriano brought in will almost definitely spell the end of Berto though. Don't think he can be deep lying mid at all.

Meh, I don't think they have anything to do with each other. Bona is a LM, he can play centrally but I think he works best a bit wide and advanced. Berto is more of a box-to-box type player. And he's not really good at either tracking back or really bombing forward with purpose
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post Jun 30 2016, 06:03 PM
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Sounds like we have new owners, and there will be an official ceremony in September.

With that in mind, I would not count on anything spectacular during the Summer transfer season. I am hoping that we can do something more substantial in the Winter transfer window.

Even on a limited budget in theory we could make some meaningful changes. However, I am expecting more of the same.
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post Jun 30 2016, 09:27 PM
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ibra has announced that he will go to man u
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post Jun 30 2016, 11:22 PM
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Very indicative. I think he waited to see how things will turn out with Milan. Since he's picked ManU, I suppose it isn't rosy.
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post Jul 1 2016, 05:36 AM
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I love Ibra. (not as much as Porty, but I still love him). That said, I think Man Utd was a sensible choice. It has nothing to do with Milan I think. Man Utd gave him a one-year contract with crazy money. He gets to be in one more top team and cement his legend. He probably no longer has the time to play in Bundesliga now.

And as for Man Utd and Mourinho, he gets a sworn Guardiola hater in his team. Expect the press to have a field day now.
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post Jul 1 2016, 06:38 AM
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Perhaps, but why did he then wait so long to confirm?
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I believe, it was because of the Euros.I think he is a team first sort of individual. I suppose he didn't want the news of his move to Man Utd overshadowing Sweden and their preparations. In fact he hasn't talked about his transfer much till recently. He only brought up this own clothing line.

But in other news, I did hear that one of the conditions Man Utd raised was that he must retire from Sweden before signing for them and things becoming official. I doubt Milan was ever on the cards. One of the things he has said is "I'll never go back to a place where I created history." You could say that about Milan and him.
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Yeah, I don't think Milan was ever a possibility for Ibra.
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post Jul 2 2016, 09:28 AM
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We'll never know. But I'm not convinced with the whole Euros and Sweden thing. Ibra had an announcement ready but delayed it on the last minute. But who knows...
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post Jul 3 2016, 10:46 AM
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So, Milan being linked with Mati Fernandez, Badelj, Zielinski, Vazquez and now Sneijder. There's also Pjaca, wanted by Inter and Juventus as well.

For the defense, Arbeloa and Benatia (probably to Juve) also mentioned. Thoughts?
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