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post Jan 29 2016, 11:58 AM
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What do you think about such a sale?

I mean Nocerino, that's a really insignificant transfer. But what about Niang? He has shown signs of improvements. Honestly, it would be smart to sell him for that price, and then to reinvest in midfield. Specially, since we have plethora of strikers. The problem is we won't reinvest, there is not enough time for it anyway except if Galliani has something in works. We were mostly silent during this transfer period.
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post Jan 30 2016, 05:13 PM
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I'd welcome it with both arms. Niang is a terrible player IMO. He's completely useless: a striker with terrible accuracy, no feeling for the goal and a completely wrong attitude. Maybe he's a combative winger, defensive winger, call him what you like, but I'm all against such players.
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post Jan 30 2016, 05:57 PM
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QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Jan 30 2016, 07:13 PM) *
I'd welcome it with both arms. Niang is a terrible player IMO. He's completely useless: a striker with terrible accuracy, no feeling for the goal and a completely wrong attitude. Maybe he's a combative winger, defensive winger, call him what you like, but I'm all against such players.


Yeah I agree with that. Too bad it seems that an offer never came.
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post Jan 30 2016, 08:54 PM
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Milan are in talks to sell Antonio Nocerino and Nigel de Jong to MLS clubs, as LA Galaxy, Orlando City and New York City FC line up.


- http://www.football-italia.net/79159/de-jo...nd-nocerino-mls


This would make me a very happy man to be honest.

As for Niang, I would keep him, I am a big fan of him even though he needs to keep working on his shooting to be more clinical, but his pace and attitude are great. Would be a mistake to sell him, I'd much rather send Balo back to Liverpool by cancelling the loan.
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post Jan 31 2016, 02:05 AM
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I don't see a point in keeping a striker who hasn't got the most important components a striker needs.

As for NdJ, I don't get this. Why is he now sidelined? When did we cross him off? I still think he's our best defensive player, over Poli, Nocerino, Kucka and Bertolacci.
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post Jan 31 2016, 09:40 AM
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QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Jan 31 2016, 02:05 AM) *
I don't see a point in keeping a striker who hasn't got the most important components a striker needs.

As for NdJ, I don't get this. Why is he now sidelined? When did we cross him off? I still think he's our best defensive player, over Poli, Nocerino, Kucka and Bertolacci.

Yep, I find it pretty strange how 2 players who were essentially our best and most reliable performers last season (Lopez and De Jong) could suddenly just drop off like flies with no explanation and suddenly we hear rumours about how both could be sold for basically peanuts a few months later.
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post Jan 31 2016, 05:12 PM
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I wouldn't sell Niang for that amount 16M in today's market is essentially peanuts and considering he had a good year last year at Genoa and has been considered to be pretty decent this season makes me think we can get more from him. That being said he has improved leaps and bounds from where he started with us and he is still young so I wouldn't mind keeping him either.

I like NDJ but for me he is a dinosaur, the game has changed to the point that defensive midfielders need to have more skills than just being able to win the ball. Heck even defenders are becoming more and more inclined as passers. For me, we can't sacrifice a midfield spot for someone with little to no ability aside from defending. Without a playmaker and a proper regista we lack creativity first and foremost, having De Jong on the field only exacerbates that problem.

But, I do like him as a player and I look forward to seeing him come here to the States. Always liked the guy and his grit has reminded me of Gattuso. I appreciate that he came here in a time of weakness for us and provided leadership and character when we were devoid of both, wish him all the best for sure.

This morning I heard on RAI that we are actively shopping Adriano as we want to get rid of him and also that Juve might come looking for Poli. Plus Nocerino is probably on his way out. Whatever he was or wasn't he did have one amazing season with us, but it is long past time for him to go.
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post Jan 31 2016, 06:53 PM
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For 16M I would sell Niang on the spot. Too bad we couldn't monetize on Adriano. With both those sales we could have financed a top midfielder.
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post Feb 1 2016, 04:35 PM
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De Jong has officially terminated his contract and will most likely more to LA Galaxy

Really strange, just a year ago we chould have sold him for decent money to Man U and now we terminate his contract. Only at Milan...
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post Feb 1 2016, 05:46 PM
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QUOTE (han2503 @ Feb 1 2016, 06:35 PM) *
De Jong has officially terminated his contract and will most likely more to LA Galaxy

Really strange, just a year ago we chould have sold him for decent money to Man U and now we terminate his contract. Only at Milan...


Really wierd that he went to LA Galaxy. He could have still made it at a top club in Europe.

Wish him all the luck! He was a warrior.
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post Feb 1 2016, 06:07 PM
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Strange. They way he just, well, disappeared.
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post Feb 2 2016, 12:02 PM
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Probably the wrong place to post this, but Allegri seems to be doing very well at Juve (link). In light of our recent record, I have to wonder if Allegri learned from his past mistakes or if his performance at Milan was impacted by other factors (management, players, whatever). Hard to excuse his second year at Milan, though (still had a semi-decent team and should have won that scudetto).
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As usual, it's a combination. I've been critical regarding Allegri, but I also never underestimated the big factor presented by Galliani and our overall strategy.

Thing is, he had his share of blame. I cannot tell if he learned or not, because Juventus keeps giving a high-quality team. Yes, he managed to excel. But the disastrous start of this season is indicative as well to me.
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post Feb 2 2016, 04:21 PM
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QUOTE (Forza Milan! @ Feb 2 2016, 12:02 PM) *
Probably the wrong place to post this, but Allegri seems to be doing very well at Juve (link). In light of our recent record, I have to wonder if Allegri learned from his past mistakes or if his performance at Milan was impacted by other factors (management, players, whatever). Hard to excuse his second year at Milan, though (still had a semi-decent team and should have won that scudetto).

I personally don't see anything all that special with what he's currently doing at Juve tbh, and you said it yourself, he should have won the title his second season with us but let a far more inferior Juve side take it right out from under his nose, he still had the best team in the league that season, he just proved that he was by and far not the best tactician during that season.

I don't need to go into his following season and a half with us and the disaster that time turned out to be, the man simply had no answer to losing the player who made the entire team tick.

And as Filippo said, his start to this season is also very indicative that his biggest shortcomings are still very present now, they're just very well masked by the fact that he has a squad that can basically steamroll the rest of the league without too much effort
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post Feb 2 2016, 07:15 PM
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QUOTE (han2503 @ Feb 2 2016, 12:21 PM) *
I personally don't see anything all that special with what he's currently doing at Juve tbh, and you said it yourself, he should have won the title his second season with us but let a far more inferior Juve side take it right out from under his nose, he still had the best team in the league that season, he just proved that he was by and far not the best tactician during that season.

I don't need to go into his following season and a half with us and the disaster that time turned out to be, the man simply had no answer to losing the player who made the entire team tick.

And as Filippo said, his start to this season is also very indicative that his biggest shortcomings are still very present now, they're just very well masked by the fact that he has a squad that can basically steamroll the rest of the league without too much effort


Han, you always bring up the collapse at the end of Allegri's tenure as the reason that he's not a good coach but I think it's worth asking the question: Would any coach have been able to stay as competitive after losing the players we did that year? Granted we have no counter factual of a universally recognized great coach taking over after Allegri left but all of our struggles since then suggest to me that our dearth of quality players is more to blame than coaching.
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