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post Jun 24 2014, 12:26 PM
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QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Jun 24 2014, 11:06 AM) *
Tassotti on Seedorf from football-italia:




So the final reason why he left. No one liked him, no one could work with him. He wasn't inclusive in his management style and was autocratic.

The remaining rumours of his ill treatment by the club seem just rumours save that we fired someone who was being counterproductive are just rumours.

He's on gardening leave, which means he will continue to earn his wage, even then rumours are he wants to sue Milan for more money, including material and moral damages. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif)

Why can't he just do what Leonardo did? Until Leo joined Inter, he acted quite classy.


He just had to didn't he?

@Pippo ... That is fine, the management are idiots we already reached that conclusion a loooong time ago on this forum (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

Let me assert that Seedorf was one of my favorite players, one whom I held in high consideration, but suing the club for damages? Even when he is being paid his remaining balances of his 2 1/2 yr contract?
Mauro, a club legend of 17 years on the pitch and over 12 years as assistant coach stating that he almost left the club due to Seedorf?

If you know the club too well, you know that they do not hang the dirty laundry out in the public. On the contrary, our 'assumptions' are what lead our bias. That bias could hold weight in our assumptions and our assessment of this management; which we all agree are idiots.

What we know about this Seedorf issue is at the tip of the iceberg, what lies beneath might never surface to us. With that said, I'm with AC Milan first and foremost, even if the management are idiots! And f@ck you Clarence Seedorf!
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post Jun 24 2014, 12:44 PM
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QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Jun 24 2014, 11:57 AM) *
Dude. What shitty way? He wasn't working. We terminated his contract and asked to settle. He refused and lawyered up.

I was angry then, because I thought he was being fired despite positive results. Now we read that he never really had the team. The players played because of pride and the management letting them know this was temporary.

For me the clincher is Milan was if anything over-loyal to the coach to a fault. So this is the first time we're seeing something trigger happy.

Except for De Jong no one came out in support except for that initial phase.

When a mild mannered newbie like De Sciglio complains about the coach, you know the rot is deep.

I respect his achievements as a player. The same way I do Maradona. Doesn't mean I don't think he's a poor manager.

Tbh, this lawsuit business has pissed me off even more. Leonardo was far more classy. Except his Eff You to Milan was to join Inter.


You're kidding, right? The moment the season was over (and even sooner for that matter) we started working on the new coach, having meetings between Silvio, Galliani, Barbara etc. Already planning for our future, all while treating Seedorf like he didn't even exist. He was fired by e-mail for crying out loud!

I don't care about the mistakes his did, you do not treat a legend like that. We were the ones who wanted him, who made him quit football altogether and take a team in disastrous conditions (which he managed to uplift and fight for Europe till the very end).

There are ways and ways of dealing with situations like this, we just chose the wrong way, simple as.
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post Jun 24 2014, 12:48 PM
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I still don't have a single source except Twitter that said Seedorf was fired over e-mail.
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post Jun 24 2014, 12:51 PM
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QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Jun 24 2014, 12:48 PM) *
I still don't have a single source except Twitter that said Seedorf was fired over e-mail.


http://www.vi.nl/nieuws/ac-milan-ontsloeg-...f-per-email.htm
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post Jun 24 2014, 12:56 PM
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I have two sources now and all are quoting Gazzetta.

There are two parts to this:

1. Firing Seedorf - This was the right decision. I don't think this can be argued with anymore.
2. How he was fired - Let's believe all the rumours. So he was fired by e-mail. And we couldn't reach a termination agreement, so he shall receive his full fee over 2.5 years. So why does he lawyer up? Why not walk away? Why can't love for the club be two-way? If he is aggrieved at Galliani and/or Berlusconi why not sue them directly for mental torture etc etc.?
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Let's not forget us deleting his profile form the Milan Hall of Fame. What do you have to say about that?
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post Jun 24 2014, 01:00 PM
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QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Jun 24 2014, 12:56 PM) *
I have two sources now and all are quoting Gazzetta.

There are two parts to this:

1. Firing Seedorf - This was the right decision. I don't think this can be argued with anymore.
2. How he was fired - Let's believe all the rumours. So he was fired by e-mail. And we couldn't reach a termination agreement, so he shall receive his full fee over 2.5 years. So why does he lawyer up? Why not walk away? Why can't love for the club be two-way? If he is aggrieved at Galliani and/or Berlusconi why not sue them directly for mental torture etc etc.?


The lawyering up thing is debatable. Firstly I thought he had every right to do so, but as news and stories are beginning to emerge which clearly put Seedorf at fault too, perhaps it's a bit of a stretch. But yeah, I guess the guy feels wronged and humiliated by the club, so I can kind of understand his reasoning.
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post Jun 24 2014, 01:02 PM
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I call that story bullshite. Why?

Coz of this.

His name is still there. I assume our site had one of it's famous downtimes, and that set the rumour mills abuzz.
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QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Jun 24 2014, 01:02 PM) *
I call that story bullshite. Why?

Coz of this.

His name is still there. I assume our site had one of it's famous downtimes, and that set the rumour mills abuzz.


Or maybe they removed it, realized what an asinine decision it was, and put it back afterwards.
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“There have been problems in the relationships with various people,” the 29-year-old has told reporters today, echoing Mauro Tassotti’s words from yesterday.

“It is shame that a situation like this has come about. What has come out is not all that has happened.


Pazzini's 2 cents on that prick, f@cking suing the club. Ungrateful sob.

He could have just let it be water under the bridge and walk away with the fans sympathy and his dignity. But noooo, he wants to put Milan under pressure; and for what? Because Pippo Inzaghi was appointed as his successor? C2nt!

I hope more Milan reps come out and show what a lowlife he is!

Ps sooo pissed off, hope his career as coach crashes from this low to the next!
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Well, I for one won't be calling Seedorf names before I realize what exactly happened.
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QUOTE (X-Offender @ Jun 24 2014, 02:17 PM) *
Or maybe they removed it, realized what an asinine decision it was, and put it back afterwards.

He was definitely removed initially.
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post Jun 24 2014, 07:54 PM
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QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Jun 24 2014, 02:48 PM) *
I still don't have a single source except Twitter that said Seedorf was fired over e-mail.

You don't believe that but at the same time you believe the suing thing? Why?

Based on what has come out thus far, I'm totally pro-Seedorf and still hope, first and foremost, to see Berlusconi and Galliani out. Anything that forces them out, anything at all. Serie B or C I don't give a damn.
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QUOTE (dst @ Jun 24 2014, 09:54 PM) *
You don't believe that but at the same time you believe the suing thing? Why?

Based on what has come out thus far, I'm totally pro-Seedorf and still hope, first and foremost, to see Berlusconi and Galliani out. Anything that forces them out, anything at all. Serie B or C I don't give a damn.

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QUOTE (dst @ Jun 24 2014, 07:54 PM) *
You don't believe that but at the same time you believe the suing thing? Why?

Based on what has come out thus far, I'm totally pro-Seedorf and still hope, first and foremost, to see Berlusconi and Galliani out. Anything that forces them out, anything at all. Serie B or C I don't give a damn.


Some people still think Berlusconi and Galliani are the saints of this world that we all must bow to.
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