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Jun 12 2014, 01:18 PM
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QUOTE (X-Offender @ Jun 12 2014, 12:50 PM)  In the light of recent events, I'm starting to judge Pirlo and Cassano less than I used to. What mostly p!ssed me off about Pirlo was how he acted during our game against Juve (when there was the Muntari ghost goal). Charging in, elbowing, basically acting like a complete tw@t. But other than that I'm still a huge fan of his in a pure footballing sense
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Jun 23 2014, 03:34 PM
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6 months ago, I didnt want him to sign as our coach, for two reasons; (i) he was inexperienced (ii) his legacy (not just as a footballer) to Milan could be damaged.
Today, it is revealed Mauro, one of the most experienced and highly decorated ex-player and current assistant coach as about to leave Milan because of a difficult relationship he had with Seedorf.
Also, it is revealed Seedorf is taking the sacking to courts to force the club in paying the remaining years of his contract plus damages. Damages?!
Seedorf claimed that half the playing squad was not fit to play for Milan, this half way through his 6 months with us. At a time when the ship was sinking.
Known Milan since the late 80s, since that time the club has never been one to hang dirty laundry in the streets. On the contrary, even the clubs own fans dont know what is going on behind the closed doors. So the tip of the iceberg is what is above, however the whole iceberg is something we probably will never come to know.
What I know now is Seedorf has lost my respect, twisting my club's arm at a time when he was intrusted to take care of it. This is why I didnt want him here, he just ruined 10 years of legacy for me.
This post has been edited by Rossoneri7: Jun 23 2014, 03:36 PM
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Jun 23 2014, 04:43 PM
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QUOTE (Danny @ Jun 23 2014, 04:03 PM)  tbh if he was fired, ugly as it is he's entitled to departing with his contract paid out. Just like Allegri was and did.
It's horrid, but he's doing what he's entitled to, and treating the club as badly as we have treated him. Agreed This management can't treat people like garbage and expect respect in return
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Jun 23 2014, 04:56 PM
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QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Jun 23 2014, 05:34 PM)  6 months ago, I didnt want him to sign as our coach, for two reasons; (i) he was inexperienced (ii) his legacy (not just as a footballer) to Milan could be damaged.
Today, it is revealed Mauro, one of the most experienced and highly decorated ex-player and current assistant coach as about to leave Milan because of a difficult relationship he had with Seedorf.
Also, it is revealed Seedorf is taking the sacking to courts to force the club in paying the remaining years of his contract plus damages. Damages?!
Seedorf claimed that half the playing squad was not fit to play for Milan, this half way through his 6 months with us. At a time when the ship was sinking.
Known Milan since the late 80s, since that time the club has never been one to hang dirty laundry in the streets. On the contrary, even the clubs own fans dont know what is going on behind the closed doors. So the tip of the iceberg is what is above, however the whole iceberg is something we probably will never come to know.
What I know now is Seedorf has lost my respect, twisting my club's arm at a time when he was intrusted to take care of it. This is why I didnt want him here, he just ruined 10 years of legacy for me. Naah, I can't side with you on this, my friend. There are just too many individual cases to say it's the players/legends who are the problem. You have Maldini or Boban who look bitter and distanced themselves from the club, you a dozen other how were somehow damaged. No, I'm not loosing respect for Seedorf. I only lost respect for my club. The management is plainly horrid. Singing Seedorf wasn't a shot in the dark. Even a half-good informed fan could tell you that Seedorf is/was always a tad egocentric and that his style will be based on his own vision. Furthermore, it was us who called in a rookie coach, gave him the most impossible of all tasks, and the fired him for doing - what he was supposed to do, what everyone knew he'd do. Why should I keep believing and supporting our management when there's obvious that all good things went down the toilet? You keep sounding like this is the Milan of 1989 or 1998 or 2006. But no, this is a erratic, panic, stingy, cheap Milan who wants to prove to all of us that without money you lose more then just buying power and good players; it seems the wanna tell us that you lose your head, sentiment and above all - class.
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Jun 23 2014, 06:28 PM
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QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Jun 23 2014, 07:56 PM)  Naah, I can't side with you on this, my friend.
There are just too many individual cases to say it's the players/legends who are the problem. You have Maldini or Boban who look bitter and distanced themselves from the club, you a dozen other how were somehow damaged. No, I'm not loosing respect for Seedorf.
I only lost respect for my club. The management is plainly horrid. Singing Seedorf wasn't a shot in the dark. Even a half-good informed fan could tell you that Seedorf is/was always a tad egocentric and that his style will be based on his own vision. Furthermore, it was us who called in a rookie coach, gave him the most impossible of all tasks, and the fired him for doing - what he was supposed to do, what everyone knew he'd do.
Why should I keep believing and supporting our management when there's obvious that all good things went down the toilet? You keep sounding like this is the Milan of 1989 or 1998 or 2006. But no, this is a erratic, panic, stingy, cheap Milan who wants to prove to all of us that without money you lose more then just buying power and good players; it seems the wanna tell us that you lose your head, sentiment and above all - class. +1. Good post.
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Jun 23 2014, 11:02 PM
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He picked Inter. That's a whole different level. I still dislike this man.
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Jun 24 2014, 08:06 AM
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Tassotti on Seedorf from football-italia: QUOTE Milan assistant Mauro Tassotti has revealed the difficult working relationship he had with Clarence Seedorf.
The Dutchman was appointed as Massimiliano Allegri’s successor in January, but after guiding the Rossoneri to eighth, was swiftly sacked in May to be replaced by Pippo Inzaghi for next term.
And the former defender has admitted that it was tough working alongside the ex-Netherlands international.
“It wasn’t an easy relationship,” he told reporters. “But that is all in the past so it’s useless talking about it.
“I haven’t spoken to him since it happened. I tried to work with him in the best way possible by putting myself at his disposal.
“But you have to feel like it’s a collaboration, and feel easy working together – it didn’t feel like that.
“I was very close to leaving Milan.
“But then I was told that there would be a new man coming in and I was wanted as part of the coaching staff.
“I spoke with Pippo and with the club and decided to stay after that.” So the final reason why he left. No one liked him, no one could work with him. He wasn't inclusive in his management style and was autocratic. The remaining rumours of his ill treatment by the club seem just rumours save that we fired someone who was being counterproductive are just rumours. He's on gardening leave, which means he will continue to earn his wage, even then rumours are he wants to sue Milan for more money, including material and moral damages. (IMG: style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif) Why can't he just do what Leonardo did? Until Leo joined Inter, he acted quite classy.
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Jun 24 2014, 10:01 AM
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Yes. Seedorf was Seedorf. What a surprise!
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Jun 24 2014, 11:57 AM
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Dude. What shitty way? He wasn't working. We terminated his contract and asked to settle. He refused and lawyered up.
I was angry then, because I thought he was being fired despite positive results. Now we read that he never really had the team. The players played because of pride and the management letting them know this was temporary.
For me the clincher is Milan was if anything over-loyal to the coach to a fault. So this is the first time we're seeing something trigger happy.
Except for De Jong no one came out in support except for that initial phase.
When a mild mannered newbie like De Sciglio complains about the coach, you know the rot is deep.
I respect his achievements as a player. The same way I do Maradona. Doesn't mean I don't think he's a poor manager.
Tbh, this lawsuit business has pissed me off even more. Leonardo was far more classy. Except his Eff You to Milan was to join Inter.
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