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post May 6 2014, 07:44 PM
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And are we letting go of Mexes as well because of his big wage which is 4m but we're ready to pay Alex 3.5m? Hmmm.... Genius stuff
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post May 6 2014, 09:12 PM
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This summer will be disappointing I fear. We might get one good player, somewhere in the defensive phase of our game.

Seedorf wants to play in a 4-3-1-2, we have Kaka/SES and Balotelli/Pazzini upfront, Honda/Kaka/Taraabt in the hole, midfield three think we have it covered maybe a good DM (Essian has been a disappointment so far, and I'd much prefer someone to challenge Muntari for a spot), defense is good, yet needs much improvements especially along the flanks - a flamboyant wing back ala il concorde, and I am not sure about the Gkeeper as that is a position I am indifferent to (unless we are talking about Buffon or Casillas, don't really care).

My wish list would be in this order; WB/FB, CB, then a DM. Actually in whichever order, just need someone to plug in the gaps and another to provide width and stretch the play (Abate is great IMO, but I'd rather someone 'deadlier', if just for the spectacle).


So far if we filter through the squad (keeping in mind some or someone might leave): NDJ, Montolivo, Muntari, Honda, Taraabt, SES, Pazzini, Balotelli, Abate, Bonera, Kaka and Poli - These are all relatively (or subjectively for some) good players, some with experience some with much less. Point is there is a 'core' starting to form and if the coach can be given time, this core will only get stronger. A sense of cohesion IMHO and solidity should be top priority. So unless it is someone worth it, otherwise fodder till we find one.
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post May 6 2014, 09:39 PM
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QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ May 6 2014, 09:12 PM) *
Seedorf wants to play in a 4-3-1-2


Where'd you hear that? If Seedorf wanted to play 4-3-1-2, he could have done it the moment he came, since he already had the right players for it.
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post May 6 2014, 10:03 PM
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When discussing the tactical switch, Seedorf hinted it was a move towards the vision of President Silvio Berlusconi.

“My first concern was to find solidity in the two phases. This team has achieved that recently. In this game I wanted to surprise Inter by changing the system, especially as I said the philosophy was more important than the system.

“We know the President likes this system and for next season we eventually have plans to play more in this shape.

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post May 7 2014, 10:59 AM
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QUOTE (han2503 @ May 7 2014, 02:14 AM) *
And are we letting go of Mexes as well because of his big wage which is 4m but we're ready to pay Alex 3.5m? Hmmm.... Genius stuff



I read it as, in case we can't bring Rami down from his 7 million price tag, we will be looking at Alex on a free with a 3.5 million wage.

Not yet sure whether we're trying to bring it down or if Valencia is hesitant coz other clubs are bidding higher.

Another point to note is that QPR have been promoted and might want Taraabt back.
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post May 7 2014, 08:33 PM
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QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ May 7 2014, 10:59 AM) *
I read it as, in case we can't bring Rami down from his 7 million price tag, we will be looking at Alex on a free with a 3.5 million wage.

THIS is exactly what got us in huge piles of sh!t in the past in terms of our huge wages. I can see that Galliani never learns from past mistakes. What a total idiot, and I personally can't believe that Silvio is still entrusting his club in Galliani's hands. Makes him an even bigger idiot

Don't get me wrong I like Alex. If we can reduce Mexes's wage to around 2m and offer Alex something similar and we get Rami as well. I think we'd have a fairly strong CB roster. While getting rid of Zaccardo and Silvestre of course
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post May 8 2014, 05:59 AM
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Way to go to completely ignore my post. You've stopped listening to me. I think I need to rethink this relationship. We've stopped communicating. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif)
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post May 8 2014, 09:48 AM
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QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ May 8 2014, 05:59 AM) *
Way to go to completely ignore my post. You've stopped listening to me. I think I need to rethink this relationship. We've stopped communicating. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif)

I wasn't ignoring the rest of your post Jackie!

But we all know that if Valencia don't bend to Galliani's will, which is to basically bring the price down to zero, we'll pass on Rami and go for Alex while giving him a ridiculous wage in the process
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post May 8 2014, 10:12 AM
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So here's the interview from Silvio. Off football-italia

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Silvio Berlusconi won’t sell Milan, will decide Clarence Seedorf’s future at the end of the season and would take Mario Balotelli to the World Cup.

The club President and former Italian Prime Minister considered a number of issues relating to the Rossoneri this week in an interview with Capital Radio, beginning with continued speculation that he is in talks to sell a majority shareholding of the club.

“No I don’t think so, in spite of a football team that faces many difficulties on the international scene where the protagonists are those who have Arabic money and it is difficult to compete against,” Berlusconi has made clear.

“I think that teams like PSG are owned by those who have wealth without limits.”

Rumours continue to surround Milan’s intentions on the bench in the summer, with it generally assumed now that Clarence Seedorf will be leaving as Coach, just six months into his tenure.

“We will decide together, at a meeting of the board at the end of the season. Clarence has a contract that says he will be with us for the next two years.”

Mario Balotelli has come under scrutiny of late for his performances on the pitch and recent outburst on live television.

“I would take him to the World Cup, but the CT is preparing to do a great job, to persuade him on his position on the field. We, at Milan, have not succeeded.”

Berlusconi was asked for further comment on the scenes before and after the Coppa Italia Final in Rome.

“I have never seen a situation like that and I am not sure that even the Napoli President had this in mind.

“There are those who believe in and identify with their team and do so with real passion. In the papers these days, you have the Napoli ultras as violent, or even criminals, we must definitely distinguish.

“The ultras, for example at Milan, are absolutely people with a spirit that is simple, with a real passion for their team.

“They identify with their team, with players who become their heroes. Indeed, the matches in football are a metaphor for them.”


Like I said, the part with the jersey modeling and this statement from Silvio confirms it. I think Mario is on his way out.

If Mario goes, I think the cash will be about enough to land both Taraabt and Rami and keep Sciglio. But we're still up the crapper without a striker of any repute.

Cue, another shitty season till winter when we buy someone on loan and just about survive into Europe. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

I hate being poor.
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post May 8 2014, 11:02 AM
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QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ May 8 2014, 10:12 AM) *
So here's the interview from Silvio. Off football-italia



Like I said, the part with the jersey modeling and this statement from Silvio confirms it. I think Mario is on his way out.

If Mario goes, I think the cash will be about enough to land both Taraabt and Sciglio. But we're still up the crapper without a striker of any repute.

Cue, another shitty season till winter when we buy someone on loan and just about survive into Europe. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

I hate being poor.

With Mario it's not just about selling him, it's trying to find someone who's willing to buy him and offer us the kind of money we'd want

And Taraabt and Sciglio?

DS is already on a permanent contract with the club and Taraabt's agreed fee is minimal, I don't think he wants to go back to England anyway

And really if the money we get on Mario is going to be spent on a Championship reject then we have even more problems than we originally thought
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post May 8 2014, 11:43 AM
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Sorry. I meant Taraabt and Rami and keep Sciglio. Edited.

Because playerwise, Balotelli and De Sciglio are the only players we have left who can give us any money. We've sold everyone else. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

With the rest of the squad, about 15 million is the highest we can expect.

Taraabt doesn't have a call on if he goes back, since he is on loan. I don't know what the fee is and if 7 million is too high for Rami, then I think 8 million is too high for Taraabt.

Of course we could negotiate, but I still think we're looking at a combined outlay for at least 12 million for both players.

Considering our finances, I think that effectively closes any and all transfer activities including those in winter.
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post May 8 2014, 01:55 PM
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First of all, Jack, I don't think what Silvio said implies in any way whatsoever that Balo is leaving. Secondly, I don't think that we have to sell anyone this summer in order to cash in. The problem is that we don't have a spending budget, or rather, we have a very minimal one, so we'll have to make due with these players and hope we manage to find something cheap and good on the market.

Taarabt is reported that will cost us around €3m. Add €7m for Rami and that makes €10m. What's imperative afterwards is that we get rid of all the dead weight. Amelia, Zaccardo, Robinho, Birsa, Essien, Nocerino, Matri, Traoré etc. I would add Kaká to the list as well. And by "get rid" I mean sell! We shouldn't have a roster of no more than 24-25 players. We've already succeeded in cutting down wages to some degree. If we could also reduce the personnel, then we're headed towards the right direction.

And then maybe, just maybe we might have something to spend on a couple of new players. Obviously this isn't done overnight. It require a lot of planning, something this management is incapable of. Signing 32 year old Alex on free with a salary of €3.5m is the best proof you could ask for.
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post May 8 2014, 03:56 PM
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QUOTE (X-Offender @ May 8 2014, 02:55 PM) *
First of all, Jack, I don't think what Silvio said implies in any way whatsoever that Balo is leaving. Secondly, I don't think that we have to sell anyone this summer in order to cash in. The problem is that we don't have a spending budget, or rather, we have a very minimal one, so we'll have to make due with these players and hope we manage to find something cheap and good on the market.

Taarabt is reported that will cost us around €3m. Add €7m for Rami and that makes €10m. What's imperative afterwards is that we get rid of all the dead weight. Amelia, Zaccardo, Robinho, Birsa, Essien, Nocerino, Matri, Traoré etc. I would add Kaká to the list as well. And by "get rid" I mean sell! We shouldn't have a roster of no more than 24-25 players. We've already succeeded in cutting down wages to some degree. If we could also reduce the personnel, then we're headed towards the right direction.

And then maybe, just maybe we might have something to spend on a couple of new players. Obviously this isn't done overnight. It require a lot of planning, something this management is incapable of. Signing 32 year old Alex on free with a salary of €3.5m is the best proof you could ask for.

As usual, we will run into the problem that many of the players we want to sell are happy drawing a ridiculous salary and will not want to leave.
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post May 8 2014, 04:01 PM
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Intrigued by this article <http://www.goal.com/it/news/2/serie-a/2014/05/08/4804033/berlusconi-apre-a-montella-milan-mi-%C3%A8-molto-simpatico?ICID=HP_BN_11>. Implies we may be after Montella. Doubt it it would happen, though (I believe we would have to pay Fiorentina to release him from his contract, plus why would he jump ship?)
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post May 8 2014, 06:11 PM
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Ex-Milan player and Coach Cesare Maldini believes it will be difficult for the Rossoneri to return to compete at the top of European football.

The 82-year-old was asked today about President Silvio Berlusconi’s comments that the San Siro club could not match the spending power of certain clubs under foreign ownership.

“The President’s opinion is absolutely normal,” Maldini said to Tuttomercatoweb.com. “It’s the same for a lot of clubs.

“The Arabs have money to throw away and there can’t be any competition.

“I sincerely hope Milan are not now consigned to the second tier of European clubs, but it will be tough to compete.

“There are still some people needed at the club to come in and revive it. The crisis that our country is going through is horrendous and it is difficult to think of alternatives.

“In the recent past, Galliani has been a decisive factor in our success. But, without money, even ideas cannot be enough.”

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