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post Mar 26 2013, 09:11 AM
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So basically to make certain people happy winning is not enough. We have to do it in a certain way, with a certain formation, with certain players.
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post Mar 26 2013, 03:20 PM
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QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Mar 26 2013, 11:11 AM) *
So basically to make certain people happy winning is not enough. We have to do it in a certain way, with a certain formation, with certain players.


Why did we lose the scudetto last season when it was basically ours? For the same reasons I stated above. With Allegri it's been the same trend in these last 3 years. The fact we won a scudetto in his first year does not reflect his brilliant coaching, but that we simply had no opponent to challenge us, and that we had Silva and Ibra to cover Allegri's mistakes. This has been said over and over again. If we keep Allegri for next season as well, then expect players of the calibre of Acerbi, Muntari, Traoré, Niang etc. to start games, whilst better alternatives get completely ignored on the bench. And we'll keep playing atrocious football, being saved by Balotelli or the referee every now and then. We'll never win the CL, we'll keep getting humiliated by the various Arsenal and Barcelona, and so on and so forth. Nothing is going to change, because for every step forward Allegri is going to make, he'll make 3 steps backwards subsequently.
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post Mar 26 2013, 03:28 PM
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Anyway, on a different topic, Claudio Lippi, long-time journalist of MilanChannel died today due to a motorcycle accident. I felt really shocked to read that, as I've watched MilanChannel for years, and he's always seemed like a really nice person. This is Milan's official statement:

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We embrace the family of our friend Claudio, journalist at MilanChannel. Companion of many red&black adventures, you will always be with us.


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post Mar 26 2013, 03:42 PM
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RIP. Really shocking news to me as well.
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post Mar 26 2013, 04:52 PM
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post Mar 26 2013, 06:02 PM
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He was only 42. Terrible, just terrible.
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post Mar 26 2013, 06:07 PM
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QUOTE (X-Offender @ Mar 26 2013, 04:20 PM) *
Why did we lose the scudetto last season when it was basically ours?

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post Mar 27 2013, 05:41 AM
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Allegri is not the greatest thing since sliced bread. But to use the Bojan vs. Niang argument makes little sense to me. Niang is still getting censured for that Barca game. That also doesn't make sense to me.

You want to develop youth, this is the price you pay. You lose games, or you see him being ineffective. This is the price you pay for finding out how much a youth product is worth and how far you can go.

How many games has the da Silva brothers not playing well cost Man Utd. Same for Cleverly and Welbeck and Sturridge and so on. Things take time if you go the youth route.
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post Mar 27 2013, 09:12 AM
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QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Mar 27 2013, 05:41 AM) *
Allegri is not the greatest thing since sliced bread. But to use the Bojan vs. Niang argument makes little sense to me. Niang is still getting censured for that Barca game. That also doesn't make sense to me.

You want to develop youth, this is the price you pay. You lose games, or you see him being ineffective. This is the price you pay for finding out how much a youth product is worth and how far you can go.

How many games has the da Silva brothers not playing well cost Man Utd. Same for Cleverly and Welbeck and Sturridge and so on. Things take time if you go the youth route.

There's good youth and then there's bad youth, Niang is in the latter category simple as that, he hasn't even shown flashes to hint at the former

There are players that are worth the time and money invested in them and others not worth the time of day, you bring up Man U, how much time, money and games has SAF wasted on those 2? Yet he didn't do all that's necassary to keep Pogba.

Cleverly, Sturridge? All decent players but will never be top class.

Like I said, there are those who are worth it and those who aren't, Niang is simply not worth it. And for us right now, results matter more than appeasing this whiner, which is why Allegri has been keeping him on the bench for a while now
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QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Mar 27 2013, 07:41 AM) *
Allegri is not the greatest thing since sliced bread. But to use the Bojan vs. Niang argument makes little sense to me.


If that's what you think, then you clearly haven't read any of the posts in this thread.
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QUOTE (X-Offender @ Mar 27 2013, 10:23 PM) *
If that's what you think, then you clearly haven't read any of the posts in this thread.


That's an unfair comment.

Yet, I challenge you that if Niang had little role to play in the Barca game this wouldn't be under discussion at all. And as to why Niang ended up starting that game is obvious as well.
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post Mar 27 2013, 06:30 PM
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QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Mar 27 2013, 07:52 PM) *
That's an unfair comment.


I think yours is an unfair comment, because I wrote lines and lines of why I criticize Allegri, and you only bring up the Bojan-Niang argument, as if I'm judging him simply from that alone.
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post Mar 27 2013, 08:47 PM
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In regards to Allegri I think we've all agreed a while ago that he should see out the season. We've not done any miracles this season. We're in 3rd. Which is the minimum of what all of us expected before a ball was even kicked in the league. Had we been challenging Juve for the title then it would be a whole different ball game, but in reality we conceeded any chance of that from very early in the season.

As for next season. If we want to stay in the average zone, then we should keep Allegri. Another average season like this one is what we'll sure get. If we want to make a step up in quality and challenge Juve then Allegri has to go. On paper Juve are slightly ahead of us, mostly because of their great midfield, but looking at the squads in their entirety, now that we have Balo we're only 1 or 2 signings away from being as good as them, if not better. The only area where they trump us hands down, is the most crucial. They have a top class coach and we have average Joe. We will never be able to compete with them as long as Allegri is the man in charge
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post Apr 2 2013, 10:58 PM
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Fact: Milan have a total of 16 million followers/likes on Twitter/Facebook, whilst Juve have only €5 million and Inter a mere €2 million.

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