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d'Arc.LP
post Jan 29 2013, 10:37 PM
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QUOTE (X-Offender @ Jan 29 2013, 08:02 PM) *
I guess you must be very happy. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)


Yes, yes I am (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

Milan always get's who I want.
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post Jan 29 2013, 10:55 PM
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QUOTE (d'Arc.LP @ Jan 29 2013, 09:37 PM) *
Milan always get's who I want.

Can you please want Messi and CR then?
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post Jan 29 2013, 11:42 PM
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Niang is 18. Lets calm the clumsy talk down, the kid is doing fantastic all things considered.

El Shaarawy is having a breakout season on the left side so I'm a little unsure about your point on that one.

Balotelli will be the main striker in a team that will depend on him....just like in the Euros. So yes, he should play in the middle. Pazzo, Binho, Bojan on the bench.

Shoot....why not play Robinho on the right? We should just sell that guy honestly.
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post Jan 29 2013, 11:43 PM
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Raiola offered Kasami (from Fulham) to Milan.
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post Jan 29 2013, 11:50 PM
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QUOTE (Dracoris @ Jan 30 2013, 01:42 AM) *
Niang is 18. Lets calm the clumsy talk down, the kid is doing fantastic all things considered.

El Shaarawy is having a breakout season on the left side so I'm a little unsure about your point on that one.

Balotelli will be the main striker in a team that will depend on him....just like in the Euros. So yes, he should play in the middle. Pazzo, Binho, Bojan on the bench.

Shoot....why not play Robinho on the right? We should just sell that guy honestly.


Nope, El Shaarawy is being wasted on the left. Anyone can see that he's not a winger. His dribbling is clumsy and he doesn't have that fluidity and propensity that a winger does. His finishing, however, is excellent. That combined with his pace makes him a very deadly striker. Same argument, more or less, for Niang.
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post Jan 30 2013, 12:46 AM
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According to Sky, Both Genoa and Sampdoria have rejected Milan in the attempt of signing Kucka and Poli.

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post Jan 30 2013, 12:50 AM
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QUOTE (X-Offender @ Jan 30 2013, 01:50 AM) *
Nope, El Shaarawy is being wasted on the left. Anyone can see that he's not a winger. His dribbling is clumsy and he doesn't have that fluidity and propensity that a winger does. His finishing, however, is excellent. That combined with his pace makes him a very deadly striker. Same argument, more or less, for Niang.

Yep, spot on.
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post Jan 30 2013, 12:51 AM
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QUOTE (X-Offender @ Jan 30 2013, 04:50 AM) *
Nope, El Shaarawy is being wasted on the left. Anyone can see that he's not a winger. His dribbling is clumsy and he doesn't have that fluidity and propensity that a winger does. His finishing, however, is excellent. That combined with his pace makes him a very deadly striker. Same argument, more or less, for Niang.

Same argument was more or less of Pato. When he played, that is. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif) But an awful lot of people (fans and media) were cool with the idea. Even Huntelaar was played at the wings, oh my!
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post Jan 30 2013, 12:56 AM
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Well, that's simply up to Allegri's and Leonardo's amateurism. Every coach has his bugs, Ancelotti tried playing Ambrosini as a CB and a CF, but he realized it didn't work and gave up.

How Leonardo wasted Huntelaar at the wing was just painful to watch. Same goes with Allegri...it has to do with his vision of working/defending attackers who literary present "DM-wingers" in our system and their basic task is to work hard, recuperate as many balls as possible.
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post Jan 30 2013, 01:03 AM
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I think Leonardo was trying to have his team play like Zeman does, but it just doesn't work with top sides. The wide forwards aren't wingers, they're 'inside forwards' and the width is meant to come from full backs. But it was tactical naivety to think just any forward can play there. Huntelaar has to be played down the middle and only the middle.

Sometimes as a coach you just have to do things the most obvious way and not try to be some revolutionary.
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post Jan 30 2013, 01:04 AM
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QUOTE (acid911 @ Jan 30 2013, 02:51 AM) *
Same argument was more or less of Pato. When he played, that is. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif) But an awful lot of people (fans and media) were cool with the idea. Even Huntelaar was played at the wings, oh my!


Pato actually was fantastic at dribbling and getting past several opponents, a trait he lost due to his incurring injuries. Can't say the same about El Shaarawy.
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post Jan 30 2013, 01:12 AM
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QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Jan 30 2013, 05:56 AM) *
Well, that's simply up to Allegri's and Leonardo's amateurism. Every coach has his bugs, Ancelotti tried playing Ambrosini as a CB and a CF, but he realized it didn't work and gave up.

Sign of an experienced coach. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) Amateurism, aye, for Allegri and Leonardo. Allegri in particular seeing how he has more of a coaching experience than Leonardo, small clubs and all.

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Huntelaar has to be played down the middle and only the middle.

Front middle, that is. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) Huntelaar's strongest skill is his lethal finishing inside the box.

QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Jan 30 2013, 06:03 AM) *
Sometimes as a coach you just have to do things the most obvious way and not try to be some revolutionary.

So very true. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) If as a coach you are not playing the players to their advantage, you are only putting the whole team at a disadvantage. There is place for radical ideas every once in a while, yes, but only as a test. If it works stick with it, if not, then don't be a stubborn salmon and do the obvious.

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Pato actually was fantastic at dribbling and getting past several opponents, a trait he lost due to his incurring injuries. Can't say the same about El Shaarawy.

Agreed, Shaarawy is leagues behind in this regard. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) But a young player like Pato, even Shaarawy needs a calming influence up top, not a coach who himself is yet to find his feet. There are several coaches that know how to harness the best in young players, sadly our last couple (or few if you include Carlo) do not.

But there were times when I wanted Pato to be our pure CF, receive the ball and score goals. Nothing else.
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post Jan 30 2013, 01:16 AM
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QUOTE (acid911 @ Jan 30 2013, 02:12 AM) *
Front middle, that is. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) Huntelaar's strongest skill is his lethal finishing inside the box.

Yeah, that's what I mean when I say 'down the middl'e. Maybe that's an English phrase for a striker? Not sure. Either way, yes, as a centre forward.
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post Jan 30 2013, 01:26 AM
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QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Jan 30 2013, 06:16 AM) *
Yeah, that's what I mean when I say 'down the middl'e. Maybe that's an English phrase for a striker? Not sure. Either way, yes, as a centre forward.

Oh, okay, I may have overlooked the down part. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) I thought down the middle meant in the middle. As a vanilla forward, not end striker like Pazzini or Inzaghi. But yeah, that was his position there. Some players are lazy when it comes to positions, this guy was one of the few unlucky ones here at Milan.

Fingers crossed thing settle a bit now with our two young main attackers - Shaarawy and Balotelli.
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post Jan 30 2013, 01:41 AM
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QUOTE (acid911 @ Jan 29 2013, 09:12 PM) *
Agreed, Shaarawy is leagues behind in this regard. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) But a young player like Pato, even Shaarawy needs a calming influence up top, not a coach who himself is yet to find his feet. There are several coaches that know how to harness the best in young players, sadly our last couple (or few if you include Carlo) do not.

But there were times when I wanted Pato to be our pure CF, receive the ball and score goals. Nothing else.


I don't understand how you could possibly say that Allegri isn't good with young players. El Shaarawy, De Sciglio, and Niang have had excellent or good seasons so far and El Shaarawy has mentioned multiple times that Allegri has been a positive influence. I know Allegri is a figure that people love to hate but the evidence simply doesn't justify it.
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