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Oct 15 2012, 08:33 PM
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QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Oct 15 2012, 09:56 PM) Hmh. That makes me think of Didac Vila. Even though he is tall (for a fullback) he has been criticized for being defensively poor, so it's kinda hard to believe it's him. I thought about De Sciglio. It was mentioned he can play in central defense too last Summer. And about De Jong: he has played as left-central defender in a three man defense for Ajax. And to add a name: Ambrosini has played as central defender at times for us. (IMG: style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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Oct 15 2012, 08:36 PM
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Yeah, we're filled, not 6 but potentially 8 players (IMG: style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
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Oct 15 2012, 08:43 PM
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Anyway, according to Mediaset G. Rossi could sing for Inter. Would really be heartbreaking for me. I've always pictured him with us here.
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Oct 16 2012, 09:30 AM
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GdS running a story talking of us offloading Boateng to bring in Strootman and Nani. I don't see Strootman moving in the winter and 1 will get you 10 that if we do go for Nani, we will only do so on 'loan'. (IMG: style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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Oct 16 2012, 12:22 PM
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Strootman and Nani? El Shaarawy, Pato, Nani Montolivo, Strootman, De Jong leftback, defender, defender, rightback goalkeeper The attack is well for a nice counter. Midfield roles I would hand out: Montolivo box-to-box/advanced playmaker; Strootman anchor; De Jong ball-winner.
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Oct 16 2012, 12:30 PM
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I'd change Nocerino for de Jong.
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Oct 16 2012, 12:34 PM
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QUOTE (CHU-LIP @ Oct 16 2012, 02:32 PM) I don't get why. Maybe because Nocerino is still the better player, even if he's entered a bad phase?
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Oct 16 2012, 12:42 PM
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QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Oct 16 2012, 02:34 PM) Maybe because Nocerino is still the better player, even if he's entered a bad phase? What makes Nocerino a better player than De Jong is? You know, I will start. De Jong is the better tackler or better in anything that has to do with defense (Nocerino's defending actions are terrible/reckless - when he decides to do something), De Jong is more composed on the ball even though I wouldn't quite say that about him usually but compared to Nocerino... from midfield position De Jong is more likely giving a good pass and less likely giving a bad pass than Nocerino. De Jong will get more involved in the game, while Nocerino rarely does (that was different when he played with Ibrahimovic). Nocerino does have the better shot, I will give him that. Nocerino, it's like after last season, he now just hops around waiting to score a goal rather than acting like a midfielder, and at the same time when he does gets involved in midfield position he's a liability.
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Oct 16 2012, 01:11 PM
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QUOTE (CHU-LIP @ Oct 16 2012, 02:42 PM) What makes Nocerino a better player than De Jong is?
You know, I will start. De Jong is the better tackler or better in anything that has to do with defense (Nocerino's defending actions are terrible/reckless - when he decides to do something), De Jong is more composed on the ball even though I wouldn't quite say that about him usually but compared to Nocerino... from midfield position De Jong is more likely giving a good pass and less likely giving a bad pass than Nocerino. De Jong will get more involved in the game, while Nocerino rarely does (that was different when he played with Ibrahimovic). Nocerino does have the better shot, I will give him that.
Nocerino, it's like after last season, he now just hops around waiting to score a goal rather than acting like a midfielder, and at the same time when he does gets involved in midfield position he's a liability. De Jong is obviously better defensively because he's a pure DM, but saying Nocerino doesn't get involved in the game, makes bad passes etc. is plain horseshit. Surely this season he's been poor, I've been the first one to say that, but overall I agree with Fillipo that Nocerino is the better player. Now, if we're signing those players and playing 4-3-3, then Strootman will be the DM, Nocerino the box-to-box guy and Montolivo the playmaker. Makes perfect sense. You don't need 2 DMs to play efficient football.
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Oct 16 2012, 01:13 PM
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^ My point exactly
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Oct 16 2012, 01:52 PM
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QUOTE (X-Offender @ Oct 16 2012, 03:11 PM) De Jong is obviously better defensively because he's a pure DM, but saying Nocerino doesn't get involved in the game, makes bad passes etc. is plain horseshit. Surely this season he's been poor, I've been the first one to say that, but overall I agree with Fillipo that Nocerino is the better player.
Now, if we're signing those players and playing 4-3-3, then Strootman will be the DM, Nocerino the box-to-box guy and Montolivo the playmaker. Makes perfect sense. You don't need 2 DMs to play efficient football. As long as Nocerino isn't showing it one freaking time post-Ibra I can't quite agree one bit. Also, De Jong is not a pure DM. Just because that has become - yes, become - his position doesn't necessary mean he is a pure DM. Sure, he has the qualities of a pure DM, but as long as people see him this way and only this way they will always misjudge De Jong. And I didn't know that plain horseshit stood for the truth. I would have no issue with putting Aquilani, Merkel, Clasie and so instead of De Jong, but not Nocerino. He's too much of a liability and has no place in a three man midfield. Also, Strootman is much more than just a DM too. It's so shortshined to label both as DMs and thinking that's all they offer. Plain horseshit, really? How pathetic can one jump in a discussion...
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Oct 16 2012, 03:11 PM
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Nocerino would be the better fit due to the simple reason that the position you want DJ to play in is not really something he can pull off from what I've seen from him.
You either play him as an anchor or not play him at all.
Also, why remove Prince to bring in an annoying dud like Nani? Doesn't make sense. If we sell Boateng then I'd want a proper AM to come in instead
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