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han2503
post Oct 3 2012, 11:21 AM
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QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Oct 3 2012, 10:59 AM) *
Great post ... Yes team lacks identity, but I believe we need to reinforce protection on our defensive line.

That midfield of Kaka, Seedorf, Gattuso and Pirlo had a backline of Nesta, Costacurta, Maldini, Cafu, Stam, etc ... Compared to our current defense, Mexes/Zapata ... I think you get my point here.


On paper, X-Off's formation looks very interesting. But I beg to question, how effective is it on the field of play?

Good point about the weaker defence. However adding more DMs does not mean that you add defensive stability, I think this fact has been exacerbated and demonstrated a million times over under Allegri, who not only plays 2 DMs but also went as far as to play 3 DMs on some occasions.

Do you know what adding an extra DM means? It means that we're going to lose the ball more often because of the terrible propensity for bad passing in midfield. We need more technique in our midfield not more headless chicken running.

Thus, by NOT including that extra DM, we'll keep possession better and make good use of the ball when we have it, thus not putting our defenders under constand pressure because we're constantly losing the ball in dangerous areas.

No big European team plas with 2 DMs, some of them don't even deploy a proper DM!
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post Oct 3 2012, 01:55 PM
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QUOTE (han2503 @ Oct 3 2012, 01:21 PM) *
Do you know what adding an extra DM means? It means that we're going to lose the ball more often because of the terrible propensity for bad passing in midfield. We need more technique in our midfield not more headless chicken running.

Our DMs are not headless running chickens. We actually have a bunch of them, and them are the ones who lose possession of terrible passing. Ambrosini DM, Nocerino runner, who's more likely to lose possession? Nocerino.
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post Oct 3 2012, 02:32 PM
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QUOTE (CHU-LIP @ Oct 3 2012, 01:55 PM) *
Our DMs are not headless running chickens. We actually have a bunch of them, and them are the ones who lose possession of terrible passing. Ambrosini DM, Nocerino runner, who's more likely to lose possession? Nocerino.

Lol, your dislike of Nocerino is too funny!

ALL of our DMs aren't good on the ball. Ambrosini is as much likely to make a terrible pass as Nocerino, same for Flamini, De Jong and the list goes on. We don't have dynamic DMs on this team, and that's why it causes us a huge headache when we play 2 or 3 of them
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post Oct 3 2012, 02:44 PM
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For what's worth it, De Jong can be a dynamic DM.


I'm waiting for the next lol.
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post Oct 3 2012, 03:16 PM
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QUOTE (CHU-LIP @ Oct 3 2012, 02:44 PM) *
For what's worth it, De Jong can be a dynamic DM.


I'm waiting for the next lol.

Not from me.

But De Jong isn't all that hot atm
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post Oct 3 2012, 03:24 PM
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QUOTE (han2503 @ Oct 3 2012, 12:21 PM) *
No big European team plas with 2 DMs, some of them don't even deploy a proper DM!

Doesn't mean it can't work though. Inter won the CL using 2/3 DMs fairly recently. But they had Milito/Eto'o/Sneijder winning them games.

You say having 1 DM is fine and it is, so long as he has hard working players around him. You can't play just 1 midfielder with defensive responsibilities though. Montolivo may as well not be there when we don't have possession, so Boateng simply has to track back and work hard for the team. Otherwise playing Boateng/De Jong/Montolivo won't work.
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post Oct 3 2012, 11:11 PM
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Funny how people obsessively dislike DM's. Me and Kurt are in for De Jong, han always for Ambro, Chu for Nocerino.
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post Oct 3 2012, 11:20 PM
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QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Oct 4 2012, 01:11 AM) *
Funny how people obsessively dislike DM's. Me and Kurt are in for De Jong, han always for Ambro, Chu for Nocerino.

Nocerino is not a DM.
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post Oct 4 2012, 12:07 AM
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Anyhow.
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post Oct 4 2012, 12:39 AM
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QUOTE (CHU-LIP @ Oct 4 2012, 01:20 AM) *
Nocerino is not a DM.


Yup, he's a striker.
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QUOTE (X-Offender @ Oct 4 2012, 02:39 AM) *
Yup, he's a striker.

Irony?
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post Oct 4 2012, 12:41 AM
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QUOTE (CHU-LIP @ Oct 4 2012, 02:40 AM) *
Irony?


Aye.
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post Oct 4 2012, 12:11 PM
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http://football-italia.net/25759/no-10-shirt-downsized

Very true.
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post Oct 4 2012, 01:11 PM
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QUOTE (William405 @ Oct 4 2012, 12:11 PM) *

The biggest blunder was assigning it to Gallas in the EPL. I think it was at Arsenal if IIRC.
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Yep. Arsenal. Wenger had the logic that giving the #10 worn by Bergkamp to another forward would be too much pressure.
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