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post Sep 28 2012, 02:49 PM
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QUOTE (han2503 @ Sep 28 2012, 03:48 PM) *
The problem is we were never even after someone like him. Juve were the only interested big club in Italy, which is ironic considering the options they have in midfield


Well, he actually stated a few days ago that he had refused to sign for the Primavera Milan when he was younger because he didn't feel like moving at such a young age.


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post Oct 2 2012, 10:20 AM
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NEWS:

Maldini or Giuseppe Biesuz might be our new CEO as Galliani may take a job offered by the FIGC


Robinho will be sold in January to Santos. Rafael might come as part of the deal


Yarmelenko is our top target as he's a free transfer next summer.


We have pressed Guardiola's agent hard to begin negotations for next year. Guardiola has agreed to meet and discuss things in december



We are interested in Yann Sommer of Basel (GK). It looks like this will be Abbiati's last season with us.


Ferguson wants Sharaawy but Galliani has said hes' not for sale. Valuation 25m.

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post Oct 2 2012, 11:50 AM
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I do hope Galliani does leave. He has done a splendid job thus far. A lot of criticism was (and remains) directed towards him for taking down the club, I hope that his departure does not cause a void in terms of running the club. As whoever replaces him will face a challenging task to emulate his predecessor.
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post Oct 2 2012, 11:57 AM
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QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Oct 2 2012, 11:50 AM) *
I do hope Galliani does leave. He has done a splendid job thus far. A lot of criticism was (and remains) directed towards him for taking down the club, I hope that his departure does not cause a void in terms of running the club. As whoever replaces him will face a challenging task to emulate his predecessor.

Galliani might have done some really great things for this club, but he's also made some huge mistakes. The biggest one of all is making decisions with his heart instead of using his head

I hope that when it is time for his replacement the person coming in won't let such things cloud his judgement, that's why I think someone like Maldini wouldn't be ideal for the CEO job, there are many areas in which Maldini can be given a job, and imo, it's blasphemy that he hasn't been offered a position with the club yet.
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post Oct 2 2012, 12:52 PM
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Well, then you too are making decisions with your heart when you refer to Maldini not appointed a job yet as blasphemous (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

On a serious note. Let us put this renewal of old players case to rest please ... As we all know Milan couldn't/cant afford players, especially with demand from EPL teams, the Spanish giants and the Bundesliga offering better terms to 'insert player name' in comparison to us. The renewal of old players was fueled by sentiments (I wholeheartedly agree), but there is more to that story. More in the sense that we do not know, nor foresee the club's policy. We can not go on and point fingers at the man without knowing the full story. To keep fueling assumptions based on bias against Galliani is just not right.

I say this from a moral and ethical stand point and not for my backing of the management team that has made this club the success it has achieved to date.

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post Oct 2 2012, 01:04 PM
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QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Oct 2 2012, 12:52 PM) *
Well, then you too are making decisions with your heart when you refer to Maldini not appointed a job yet as blasphemous (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

On a serious note. Let us put this renewal of old players case to rest please ... As we all know Milan couldn't/cant afford players, especially with demand from EPL teams, the Spanish giants and the Bundesliga offering better terms to 'insert player name' in comparison to us. The renewal of old players was fueled by sentiments (I wholeheartedly agree), but there is more to that story. More in the sense that we do not know, nor foresee the club's policy. We can not go on and point fingers at the man without knowing the full story. To keep fueling assumptions based on bias against Galliani is just not right.

I say this from a moral and ethical stand point and not for my backing of the management team that has made this club the success it has achieved to date.

His mistakes aren't just tied to the contract renewals. I can make a 5 page list of mistakes that he's made, specifically from 2005 onwards.

Like I said, the man did some great things for Milan thanks to the backing from Silvio, but he's also made some terrible mistakes along the way, mistakes which are partly to blame for where we currently find ourselves.

The past is the past, but the future is bleak for us. Don't say it's a rebuilding project, because this is not what that is. And don't compare us to Juve because their rebuilding project came from massive funding by the Agnelli family.
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post Oct 3 2012, 12:08 AM
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QUOTE (han2503 @ Oct 2 2012, 01:57 PM) *
Galliani might have done some really great things for this club, but he's also made some huge mistakes. The biggest one of all is making decisions with his heart instead of using his head

I hope that when it is time for his replacement the person coming in won't let such things cloud his judgement, that's why I think someone like Maldini wouldn't be ideal for the CEO job, there are many areas in which Maldini can be given a job, and imo, it's blasphemy that he hasn't been offered a position with the club yet.

Actually, I don't think it was his mistake, not his biggest at least. The whole big contracts thing only partially prevented the teams development.

And I think Maldini would be the right guy. We need heart as well if we're gonna be Milan again - the famous winning Milan with charm and heart. Galliani may got caught in the moment for a while, but actually I think he's a good combination of heart and reason, in a overall assesment.

QUOTE (han2503 @ Oct 2 2012, 03:04 PM) *
His mistakes aren't just tied to the contract renewals. I can make a 5 page list of mistakes that he's made, specifically from 2005 onwards.

Like I said, the man did some great things for Milan thanks to the backing from Silvio, but he's also made some terrible mistakes along the way, mistakes which are partly to blame for where we currently find ourselves.

The past is the past, but the future is bleak for us. Don't say it's a rebuilding project, because this is not what that is. And don't compare us to Juve because their rebuilding project came from massive funding by the Agnelli family.

Yes, we're incomparable with FIAT/Agnelli, because they're a brand holding a grunge on Italy's industry a century or so. But this is a rebuild. What should it be if not a rebuilding scheme?

But anyway, how reliable is that Galliani story?
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post Oct 3 2012, 12:17 AM
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You know what I'd like? Guardiola with Baggio as his second. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)
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post Oct 3 2012, 07:25 AM
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QUOTE (X-Offender @ Oct 3 2012, 02:17 AM) *
You know what I'd like? Guardiola with Baggio as his second. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)

Why Baggio? You mean because of the Brescia connection?
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post Oct 3 2012, 09:21 AM
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QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Oct 3 2012, 12:08 AM) *
Actually, I don't think it was his mistake, not his biggest at least. The whole big contracts thing only partially prevented the teams development.

And I think Maldini would be the right guy. We need heart as well if we're gonna be Milan again - the famous winning Milan with charm and heart. Galliani may got caught in the moment for a while, but actually I think he's a good combination of heart and reason, in a overall assesment.


Yes, we're incomparable with FIAT/Agnelli, because they're a brand holding a grunge on Italy's industry a century or so. But this is a rebuild. What should it be if not a rebuilding scheme?

But anyway, how reliable is that Galliani story?

Hindering the development isn't even the biggest consequence of those contracts. The big money that was spent on them was the big mistake, I would have had no problem keeping all those players for the years they were kept, but certainly not at 4m a piece which was what most of them were earning

For me it's a clearance sale not a rebuild
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QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Oct 3 2012, 09:25 AM) *
Why Baggio? You mean because of the Brescia connection?


Yep.
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QUOTE (han2503 @ Oct 3 2012, 11:21 AM) *
Hindering the development isn't even the biggest consequence of those contracts. The big money that was spent on them was the big mistake, I would have had no problem keeping all those players for the years they were kept, but certainly not at 4m a piece which was what most of them were earning

For me it's a clearance sale not a rebuild

I don't know. Even with the spared money, everything would be more-less the same. Look at us now - all we did is get rid of those big contracts, but in return - nothing?
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QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Oct 4 2012, 02:12 AM) *
I don't know. Even with the spared money, everything would be more-less the same. Look at us now - all we did is get rid of those big contracts, but in return - nothing?


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post Oct 9 2012, 01:19 PM
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There are recurring rumors about us wanting Guardiola for next season, and we're ready to hand him a young and quality team. My "dream" would be signing Yanga-Mbwia this Winter, then sell Robinho and Boateng and with the money sign Criscito and Mkhitaryan (whom I think can become a world class player in a big club) next summer. Imagine this team:

Abbiati
Abate - Zapata - Yanga - Criscito
Montolivo - De Jong - Nocerino
Mkhitaryan
Pato - ElSha


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post Oct 9 2012, 02:08 PM
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Do not forget that Guardiola can be as much a stubborn *** as Allegri. It's just that he has the titles to match. In any case:

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Pep Guardiola is not interested in a possible coaching position at Milan, according to Mexican defender Rafael Marquez.

The 33-year-old centre-back played under the Spanish tactician at Barcelona for two years, and has confirmed that the Champions League-winning Coach would not consider a move to Serie A.

“I have met with Pep a few times during his stay in New York,” he told Cadera SER. “I am sure he'll be back in football soon, and I think it will be in the Premier League.

“He would be the perfect Coach for Arsenal.”

Guardiola has taken a year sabbatical following his record-breaking four seasons at Camp Nou, and has been linked with a number of positions across Europe, including at the Rossoneri and Manchester United.


I don't think Guardiola is good enough a coach to win with the players we have. At the same time, I'm not sure he will be interested in a team-building project. Especially with the kind of pressure the Italian media puts.
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