I know what you were saying, but my point was it's something that's been around for a while. We may have won 38/38 the season before what I put, doesn't change the fact we've been bad starters for a long time.

I also think until this season, Allegri's had a much better squad than Carlo did in the last 3. Zlatan, Thiago and Nesta by themselves change things.

I think we played some really good football in Allegri's first season. last season wasn't nearly as good and this season... well, you know.

Much better squad? Pretty sure Carlo also had Nesta. He also managed to finish 5th with Cafu, Maldini, Nesta, Pirlo, Kaka', Pato (and Gattuso, Pippo and Seedorf who a number are very fond of).

Think you need to remember Allegri has made a profit on transfers in his time as coach. Which other Milan coach has had to put up with that?

Am I saying he's a great coach? No. But expecting a borderline Europa League team to do anything better than maybe qualify for the Europa League is deluded. Or do you share Galliani's delusion that he should be winning the title?

Not really. Nesta was completely out of things. Much like Pippo was last year. Allegri almost had Nesta on call far more.

In any case, no goals scored in 5 games at home is not good. Winning 5 out of 24 Champions League games is also not good.

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It hurts to see Milan in this state, but the results at present are not shocking to me.

It's disappointing, but not completely unexpected. If continuous losses become a habit, even after we recover Monti, Pato & Bino, then things may begin to boil over for me, but as of now, it is what it is! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

I disagree. Under Allegri we played dry football based only on the ingenuity of one individual. I acknowledge Allegri's scudetto success, but I'll never acknowledge we played especially good.


That's a very selective memory. Because Pippo was out for a long time, while mentioning Nesta is just ridiculous as he practically couldn't play a normal season.

Maldini and Pirlo sure. Pato? You mean the 17 year old Pato? Come on!


We're not a borderline Europa League team and I'm convinced a good coach would have at least secured us the 3rd spot. But right now Kurt - we're not Europa League - we're playing like a Serie B team, and that has awfully lot to do with Allegri's vision and sense for the game.

Wow! Apparently there was a big quarrel between Allegri and Inzaghi today at the Vismara sporting center. Allegri had gone there to watch the training of our youth teams, and thus the meeting with Inzaghi was inevitable. At first the two shook hands, but then they started insulting each-other with heavy words.

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What a mess we have become recently.. Sometimes I think we need to replace everyone starting with Berlu, ending with the janitor.

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Pippo? No way should be replace him.

Allegri obviously lost it. Rino, Nesta, Pippo,...all of them know and knew it before.

The twitter account on Milan I follow has more details quoting Gazzetta. Apparently the fight with Allegri and Pippo had them abusing each other and Max accusing Pippo of trying to steal his job. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

I hope this isn't true.

FI is reporting the same. I side with Pippo on this one, Allegri can go **** himself! Regardless of who was right/wrong.

Yeah the story is, Pippo told Max he has not clue what he's doing...and Max said Pippo is trying to steal his job. Weird!

But if it comes down to Pippo vs Max, I think we know how this fight will end.