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post Aug 10 2012, 02:37 PM
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QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Aug 10 2012, 03:31 PM) *
Quoting yourself...


...because some things are just so predictable.

Allegri got fired?
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post Aug 10 2012, 02:39 PM
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QUOTE (Zed.D @ Aug 10 2012, 07:47 PM) *
That usually doesn't happen in pre-season friendlies.


Why? it was a friendly not CL quarter finals.


Yeah but it was a friendly.


That's what friendlies are for. what's the point of playing your best XI, get a draw or a light defeat and have Galliani come out and talk **** about how competitive we are? let's not fool ourselves.



I was pissed at the result too, but tell me it's not easier to take a defeat like this in a pre-season friendly than in a CL quarter final. I think playing against one of the world's top 3 strongest teams with our crappy, crippled team was a mistake in the first place and Gllainai is at fault before anyone else. he better do his own business which was supposed to be adding a few good players to the team (I'm not gonna say "champions" even though that's what he said). and his angry interview isn't going to help the team in any way, it'll only put extra pressure on them and Allegri. another mistake from Baldy.


A friendly, in Italy I can understand.

This is a 60,000 packed stadium in NEW YORK. Definitely having US media coverage, lots of money but some place the football market has not been able to break.

And Real Madrid vs. AC Milan is never 'just a light' training match. That's why you face Olympia and all those other clubs, so Allegri can try out all the various tactics they want.

This is mostly to sell high-level European competition to the US audience and losing 5-1 does not do that.

I think we are worse off than Madrid, absolutely.

But we are NOT 5-1 worse, if you know what I mean.
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post Aug 10 2012, 02:39 PM
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QUOTE (CHU-LIP @ Aug 10 2012, 02:37 PM) *
Allegri got fired?

I said he got fired?
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post Aug 10 2012, 02:40 PM
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QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Aug 10 2012, 03:39 PM) *
I said he got fired?

That's what I couldn't figure out.

What were you saying?
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post Aug 10 2012, 02:43 PM
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QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Aug 10 2012, 02:39 PM) *
But we are NOT 5-1 worse, if you know what I mean.

Villa beat Inter 3-0 in a pre-season friendly, it happens and specifically it happens to Italian sides. It's generally a match fitness thing. EPL and La Liga start mid-August if I remember rightly, so they're reaching peak fitness weeks before Italian clubs.
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post Aug 10 2012, 02:44 PM
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QUOTE (CHU-LIP @ Aug 10 2012, 02:40 PM) *
That's what I couldn't figure out.

What were you saying?

Are you serious?

Allegri gets blamed for defeat. I post a quote from me that says "It will all be your fault" and you don't get the link? I'm assuming you're trolling.
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post Aug 10 2012, 02:48 PM
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“Mourinho made 9 changes? Have you seen Real’s bench? Kaka, Higuain, Xabi Alonso, Ramos, Albiol, Arbeloa. World champions."


And whose fault is it that we instead have a bunch of mediocre players on the bench? Maybe he should start blaming Berlusconi for a change, but we all know that ain't never gonna happen. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
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post Aug 10 2012, 02:53 PM
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QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Aug 10 2012, 03:44 PM) *
Are you serious?

Allegri gets blamed for defeat. I post a quote from me that says "It will all be your fault" and you don't get the link? I'm assuming you're trolling.

Wow, that's weird. I didn't notice the bolded part. For some reason I only noticed the first sentence of that quote. (Nice knowing you, Max)

Wow... my bad
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post Aug 10 2012, 02:56 PM
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QUOTE (X-Offender @ Aug 10 2012, 03:48 PM) *
And whose fault is it that we instead have a bunch of mediocre players on the bench? Maybe he should start blaming Berlusconi for a change, but we all know that ain't never gonna happen. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

Why should he blame Berlusconi? Galliani is the one who takes care over the wages, and the transfers. If he didn't give so many players such huge and long contracts that don't reflect their quality, he has only himself to blame that now he has little to spend.

Really disgust by Galliani's quote. I really do not get that guy. Allegri did right subbing players in.
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QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Aug 10 2012, 02:39 PM) *
A friendly, in Italy I can understand.

This is a 60,000 packed stadium in NEW YORK. Definitely having US media coverage, lots of money but some place the football market has not been able to break.

And Real Madrid vs. AC Milan is never 'just a light' training match. That's why you face Olympia and all those other clubs, so Allegri can try out all the various tactics they want.

This is mostly to sell high-level European competition to the US audience and losing 5-1 does not do that.

I think we are worse off than Madrid, absolutely.

But we are NOT 5-1 worse, if you know what I mean.

Are you sure about that?

Real has a world class side, from the starters down to their bench players. We don't even have half of the starting 11 that could be called world class FFS. We simply cannot compete with them.

5-1? Just about right
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post Aug 10 2012, 03:52 PM
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QUOTE (CHU-LIP @ Aug 10 2012, 02:56 PM) *
Why should he blame Berlusconi? Galliani is the one who takes care over the wages, and the transfers. If he didn't give so many players such huge and long contracts that don't reflect their quality, he has only himself to blame that now he has little to spend.

Really disgust by Galliani's quote. I really do not get that guy. Allegri did right subbing players in.

Agreed.

I imagine if we didn't make changes and picked up injuries as a result Galliani would be labelling Max careless, etc.
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QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Aug 10 2012, 09:39 AM) *
But we are NOT 5-1 worse, if you know what I mean.

We could have lost by a wayyy bigger margin on that night.
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post Aug 10 2012, 03:54 PM
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QUOTE (TriniKing_CE @ Aug 10 2012, 08:22 PM) *
We could have lost by a wayyy bigger margin on that night.


We could have, if we had proceeded to keep putting in our weaker players on.

NOBODY is denying that if 23 players of Madrid stacked up, the 23 players of Milan are 3 levels below.

But the first XI is still IMO only about 30% worse than theirs. Provided we play smart.

I don't think Galliani would have been pissed about a 2-1 or a 3-1 defeat. 5-1 was a mite too much.

But its' not the end of the world, and it would be stupid to blame Max.

We just need to move on, and work on the transfer market. Scudetto challenge is paramount otherwise we risk undoing all we've done.
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post Aug 10 2012, 04:03 PM
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QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Aug 10 2012, 07:54 PM) *
I don't think Galliani would have been pissed about a 2-1 or a 3-1 defeat. 5-1 was a mite too much.

It's not the scoreline Galliani is pissed off, it's the attitude from the coach. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif) Agree with your bit about that this was no ordinary 'friendly' match. No offense intended, but labeling it as inconsequential is pretty laughable - just ask the fans around the world who wait years and years, and then travel and spend money to watch the show.

And like I said, this kind of a showing does not reflect good on us. Neither the 5-1 drubbing, nor the 9 subs that were made, or Cassano's walk in the park attitude, it just gives the wrong message to our sponsors. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) They'll just decrease the amount they pay us next time, or cut off ties altogether. Hence Galliani's anger.
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post Aug 10 2012, 04:04 PM
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Cassano's lack of fitness has been shocking to me. I gave him far too much credit in the beginning.
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