Why? He can choose if he's German or Turkish, and by playing for Germany, he clearly decided.

When did I say he has no right to play for Germany? he has every right to do so. just like Rossi had every right to play for Italy (though some say he didn't!).

I think you can do everything your want as long as law allows you to. but you can't change your identity.



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Like Ozil, Khedira, etc who are not even willing to sing the German national anthem? I don't buy it. their decision must have been a purely professional one. if I had the chance to play for one of the best football teams, I would've done the same.

Agreed

As for the names we're currently being linked to, especially the ones to replace Silva, it looks like there's no hope of even replacing him with someone even remotely decent. Just try to get Ogbonna and be done with it

The difference between Rossi and Tasci is that Rossi was actually born in America, but decided to play for Italy, whilst Tasci was born and raised in Germany.

okay.

I do believe that his identity is German though, based on what I have said. We should look further than how we look like, and where our parents come from, and instead look at where and how that person has lived his own life, and that's a German life. Well, that's my opinion.

Born in America but to Italian parents...

In the end they chose to represent the "stronger" NT where there's more chance of winning something. unless they're KPB (IMG:style_emoticons/default/king.gif)

I think that's because back then Prince wasn't good enough and there was no prospect he ever will be. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

But obviously it's very human to choose for the better side.

Nothing to do with how you look like, what color you skin or hair is, etc.

When you grow up in your Turkish parent's home, you get exposed to their culture, their language, their food etc. if you ask me, the feeling of belonging will be more in favor of the one coming from the closest persons to you in your life ie your parents rather than the outside world.

On the other hand, that's why Balotelli always insists on feeling Italian because he was raised by Italians not his real Ghanaian parents.

This post has been edited by Zed.D: Jul 16 2012, 02:45 PM

A latin rule says "pars pro toto" isn't always wise. How can we make such ridiculous generalizations?

Serdar Tasci's parents were raised in Germany as well. He maybe exposed to Turkish culture and to German culture, but in the end it's his decision. He has every right to call himself a German.

We won't sell any other top star? Phew, Nocerino is safe!

So we're becoming like Arsenal right? Because Arsenal would let Merkel go... hope we get Kaka back too, that would be even more like Arsenal!

I'm not specifically talking about Tasci, I don't even know him.

For the tenth time, yes, he has every right to play for Germany or call himself German. but how do you know if he feels German or calls himself German? have you asked him? have you read an interview where he says that? what?

As I said before, playing for Germany doesn't "necessarily" mean one feels German. at least that's what my common sense says. if one feels German, there should be no reason that they refuse to sing the national anthem, right?

Right. You say refuse. Is this a fact? Did they refuse to sing the anthem or just didn't sing it? Because I know plenty of other players who don't sing the anthem.

At the same time by living in Germany he gets exposed by German culture, German language, etc. and actually experiences that every where he goes in his country, only possibly (I don't know what's going on at their home) at home not. And every situation, every home, every person, and every person's feelings, is different from others. It can go either way with how Tasci feels about his own identity.

Difference in culture and/or personality(or at least how one feels about something) influences this. The Italian players all sing along, and you see how committed they are with the national anthem, while we Dutch people not so much. Yet players being as Dutch as possible won't sing.

So singing along with a national anthem or not, also doesn't say everything.

This post has been edited by CHU-LIP: Jul 16 2012, 03:21 PM