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post Jul 13 2012, 01:07 PM
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news:


Terms have been agreed for Rafael. The transfer negoations will begin next week.


The deal will consist of the following.


Robinho will be exchanged for Rafael + cash. Rafael will stay at Santos for (1 year on loan) and will be our starting keeper the next season.



Milan have deemed robinho surplus and want to get his 4m/year wage off the payroll

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Ibra has agreed to PSG's offer of 12.5m euros + bonuses. Raiola's meeting with Leonardo has ended and all that remains is the official.

bye bye (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)




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post Jul 13 2012, 01:15 PM
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say good bye guys (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cry.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cry.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)


It was fun while it lasted. Cassano is up next (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)
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post Jul 13 2012, 01:24 PM
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QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Jul 13 2012, 12:57 PM) *
Galliani is a shrewd businessman, you just don't know how the accounting of it works.

Stupidity is not thinking of the potential impact in keeping Zlatan and Thiago, on the books. You can't just take the 65MM figure and say that is what Zlatan and Silva are worth. PSG will invest over 200MM for their respective contracts coupled with the transfer fee.

Again ... All you guys need to calm down. Silva and Zlatan did not make Milan history. We have gone through this before, by now, we should know what our club's situation is like. Instead of just folding our arms and sulking in the corner, just take it on the chin the fact that your club can not afford what PSG, City, Madrid, Barcelona, United, Bayern can afford.

You said it yourself about Serie A and Italy's economic situation.

Lol, and the money we're about to lose due to not making the CL, less season ticket sales, less shirt sales should not be taken into consideration?

If we don't make the CL next season, that's already the sum we've saved for next season out the window.

The consequences of this sale are not just saving money on these players' wages, they wil reverberate for a good few years. And even so, these players have to be replaced with other players, who last time I checked will want to be payed in actual money and not gift cards for a lifetime supply of mediaset premium subscribtions...
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post Jul 13 2012, 01:28 PM
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Why are we talking about figures and amounts that supposedly were offered? Don't you guys know that the real numbers never appear?
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post Jul 13 2012, 01:30 PM
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Madrid have told Kaka that he is no longer needed at the club and to find a solution.


He is transfer listed.






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post Jul 13 2012, 01:38 PM
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Will take him for 4.5 million a year.
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post Jul 13 2012, 01:41 PM
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QUOTE (han2503 @ Jul 13 2012, 05:54 PM) *
Lol, and the money we're about to lose due to not making the CL, less season ticket sales, less shirt sales should not be taken into consideration?

If we don't make the CL next season, that's already the sum we've saved for next season out the window.

The consequences of this sale are not just saving money on these players' wages, they wil reverberate for a good few years. And even so, these players have to be replaced with other players, who last time I checked will want to be payed in actual money and not gift cards for a lifetime supply of mediaset premium subscribtions...


Far fetched. Let's first reach August 31st without a single replacement and then we will think about it. Less season ticket sales were something we have had for sometime now. Our ticket sales have been stuck at 60% for quite a few years now.

And jersey sales are no biggie. Fans are fickle. We just need Pato to explode and watch the sales take off. Silva is not the type of player to sell jerseys. None of our players were save Ibra. And that's also nothing compared to what we had with Kaka.

In fact I'll wager that Beckham sold more jerseys than Ibra did if you took a per-month basis.
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QUOTE (han2503 @ Jul 13 2012, 03:24 PM) *
Lol, and the money we're about to lose due to not making the CL, less season ticket sales, less shirt sales should not be taken into consideration?

If we don't make the CL next season, that's already the sum we've saved for next season out the window.

The consequences of this sale are not just saving money on these players' wages, they wil reverberate for a good few years. And even so, these players have to be replaced with other players, who last time I checked will want to be payed in actual money and not gift cards for a lifetime supply of mediaset premium subscribtions...


That is just premature, it is still early July you know, window closes on the August 31st.. Don't pass judgment like that. Because in order for us to be in the CL, we have to be self sufficient. We don't have a stadium, we don't have the attendances and TV contracts ala EPL, La Liga and Bundesliga. We could operate as we always did, but that would mean our expulsion from Europe and just play for local titles. You tell me which is the sound judgment? Then explain to me how economically feasible your decision will be.

We never won the CL with Silva and Zlatan, and it never looked like it will come anytime soon, especially with a hoard of City, PSG, Madrid, Barcelona, Bayern, etc all pumping in multimillion 'comfortably' to win it.

The sooner this sinks in, the better for your sake. Otherwise, you will be here next summer talking about how shortsighted our management is when Pato's sale is up for discussion (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
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QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Jul 13 2012, 03:41 PM) *
Far fetched. Let's first reach August 31st without a single replacement and then we will think about it. Less season ticket sales were something we have had for sometime now. Our ticket sales have been stuck at 60% for quite a few years now.

And jersey sales are no biggie. Fans are fickle. We just need Pato to explode and watch the sales take off. Silva is not the type of player to sell jerseys. None of our players were save Ibra. And that's also nothing compared to what we had with Kaka.

In fact I'll wager that Beckham sold more jerseys than Ibra did if you took a per-month basis.


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post Jul 13 2012, 01:50 PM
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QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Jul 13 2012, 12:57 PM) *
Stupidity is not thinking of the potential impact in keeping Zlatan and Thiago, on the books. You can't just take the 65MM figure and say that is what Zlatan and Silva are worth. PSG will invest over 200MM for their respective contracts coupled with the transfer fee.

How? That means the combined contracts would need to be worth 140m?
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QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Jul 13 2012, 03:50 PM) *
How? That means the combined contracts would need to be worth 140m?


75% tax rate on footballers earning over 1MM in france.
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post Jul 13 2012, 02:04 PM
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QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Jul 13 2012, 03:28 PM) *
Why are we talking about figures and amounts that supposedly were offered? Don't you guys know that the real numbers never appear?


My sentiments exactly (IMG:style_emoticons/default/king.gif)
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post Jul 13 2012, 02:12 PM
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I am personally sad to see Silva go, but at the end of the day, he wasn't with us for very long. Sure he is easily thr best defender in the world right now, but I think if we invest properly, we could be building the next generation of MILAN legends. Not Inter and Barca rejects. To me, it was much sadder to watch the old guard exit stage left. Those guys helped to build Milan into the team it is today, and we need a new set of 'those guys'.
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Zlatan by himself is angling for a deal worth almost 50 million (14x4 and bonuses). So add taxes onto that is how much PSG are gonna shell out in wages for Zlatan alone.

Then you add Silva in the mix and do the same Math.

And our deal is 65 M plus bonuses of an added 10, if rumours be true. So, suddenly it doesn't seem so far fetched.
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post Jul 13 2012, 02:14 PM
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I am a hardcore Milan fan. I love this club and what it had given me.

In the event that iBra is really gone, we're screwed. Our ONLY hope is Pato's Kaka-like ascendancy the way he rose to the occasion when $heva left. Back then I thought we were screwed too.

The BIGGEST problem is and will always be replacing Silva. I know nothing about Acerbi and that doesn't say much as I haven't gotten to watch much calcio this year (with my marriage&MSc). However Silva himself was considered a European flop, Zidane is an Algerian nt flop and Hulk was found in the Japanese second division....so there's no telling what the future could hold.

This is a good period in our history....we'll be rid of the groupies and bandwagoners that joined us post '07 or post iBra/Scudetto. The drawbacks of course are obvious and in terms of finances Galliani needs to turn water into wine as much of a club's finances are supplied by gloryhunters....who will instantly buy a jersey or two to identify with "their" team.

I also think we whould re-call Paloschi to our team. that ship has probably sailed with the renewal of the loan but I think a pairing of Pato-Palo will be deadly in about 2~3 years.....it's not like we have anything else to do other than experiment in the interim with Real, Barca, Chel$ki and Manure/ Manure $h!tty arming themselves to the teeth....we can forget pies in the sky like Balo (a dream signing tbh) and Sahin....although who knows?

All I want is a LB and a CAM. We rebuild and re-strategise and we will rise again. We are Milan....look how long Barca roamed the football wilderness before their windfall of success. Patience brothers, patience (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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