This looks more like it, but has Nesta really been better than Chiellini? Anywho, a big difference obviously was injuries.

De Ceglie is better than Antonini. But it's irrelevant since Chiellini/Bonucci/Barzagli have all played more than De Ceglie. De Ceglie hasn't even started half the games!

I think there's a very contradictory attitude here though. A lot of you, han especially label Pepe some medicore player, despite him having a very good season and being a key player for Juve. That doesn't seem to matter because over his career he's been 'mediocre'. Well what about Boateng? At Spurs he was embarassing and at Pompey he was undisciplined in midfield. This season he's been suspended and injured for half the season, so why isn't he just classed as some mediocre player like he has been his whole career so far? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

And I'm sorry, do you really believe Cassano this season has been better than Vucinic? Come on, he's barely even played.

This post has been edited by kurtsimonw: May 8 2012, 05:18 PM

Han, are you telling me if you had both De Ceglie and Antonini in your team, Antonini would be your starting LB? seriously?

As I've said before you guys are mixing things up. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) It's one thing speaking potential wise, and another thing comparing players real life throughout a season. In a perfect world, if Pato started all our matches, he'd smoke someone like Borriello. But as things stand, the left-footed idiot has more goals than the duck in the league.

You will keep running around in circles if you are don't define and stick to your comparison criteria.

Hate to have to do this but ppl seem to forget that anto is actually a right back. Not everybody is as good or as effective on the wrong side as zambrotta back in his prime

Let's say he's equally mediocre at either side.

Not that 1 game as RB and another as RB means anything in particular, but De Sciglio has already done that, and done well.

This post has been edited by Zed.D: May 8 2012, 06:02 PM

Well, seeing as I'm talking about this season I don't see why anyone else would be talking about how good they are in general or whatever. My arguement was that Juve's team is better than ours this season, which is why they won the title.

http://www.goal.com/en/news/11/transfer-zo...s-ac-milan-move

looks like we've brought in MVB replacement.

Just how many Traore's and Diarra's are there?

True, that is the only way we can compare. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif) The horrendous injuries never left us any breathing space. But if our players had not missed more than 250 matches combined, we probably wouldn't even be doing this comparison, it would be terribly redundant, because with a full strength team we surely could have avoided some losses and draws.

But you can do a general comparison too, and Milan would 100% come out on top as far as first XI is concerned.

Oh, and I don't think there is much room for an argument here that the Juventus team was better than ours this season. It is. And that's because we made them so. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) They were lucky on the injury front, we had terrible bad luck. Their coach combined them into a unit, we had factions and rifts with the teams, Pato/Ibra, seniors living in their own little world, guys like Mexes, Flamini and more being left high and dry, etc.

We also handed them a Judge Dredd with a personal vendetta against Milan that turned out to be the missing key.

Cassano has been truly amazing, obviously better than Vucinic, when he played. Of course, he didn't play often, but how can that be a reason to call Vucinic better?

We really need an opinion of how good this guy actually is, now that he's officially a Milan player. Someone please barge into some Ligue 1 forum and ask.

Most of these issues we had are because of $h!tlegri.....yet ppl refuse to blame him (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)
Also his training methods are highly suspected as being a contributing factor in the injury bug (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif)

Yes, he does seem to have a hand (large or small) in almost all issues. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) Most coaches would, seeing as they are the supreme authority in a squad. Even if it is not directly his fault, I am yet to see any major steps he has taken to erase or minimize these issues. Allegri is usually very slow to react and change direction, and I see it the case here.

I mean, the look on Mexes' face before the start of the inter derby said it all. It said it all, man.