Watching this I can understand why Allegri has kept Pippo at a distance, he just cannot cut it anymore, Ambro and Rino are also none players these days, I know Rino's been out for a long time but he didn't even get the basics right.

I hope all of these players bar Nesta retire at the end of this season, they are tarnishing what was once a beautiful legacy

Well to be fair at his age and given the lengthy spell out with injury, one couldn't expect Inzaghi's first real match to be a vintage one

There's no reason to "renew" anything. He was never poor for us. Our n00b oldfashioned biassed coach just stopped playing him so you saw him less that's all

Honorable mentions (i only caught the last 20 minutes) Antonini, Abbiatti, El Sha, Valoti (although he rarely got the ball he seemed to be very effective with possession wether passing dribbling or going into dangerous positions)

The age of our midfield was made apparent when, after a FK in their own half, PSG bombed the ball up and the only players to get back were El Sha and emanuelson while the mid was practically still in PSG's half... Bonnera makes 1 big mistake, Abbiati save, of the rebound their wingers puts it in the middle (where our midfield SHOULD BE by then) and another unchallenged shot another great save by abbs

Completely agreed, i didn't want to be the first to bring up rino but in the 20 minutes i watched he missed a great deal of simple, unchallenged passes from as close as 2-3m. I get that his recovery has been remarkable and no one was more happy to hear of his inclusion then me, but i cannot bear to see this wounded gladiator mess-up as much, i really really REALLY want the old guard to retire with one last scudetto this year, hopefully not compromising our chances for it with these bashful outings :sad:

I just don't think he can do it any longer, he was quick once, so his great lack of skill was a none factor because he simply weaseled his way past defenders. Pippo has probably been out of shape for a while now. Allegri is no angel and I'm very far from being a fan of his, but just watching him trudge along trying in vain to do something other than stumble over the ball was just painful to watch


I can't see any of those players getting on the pitch at this point unless we're in an emergency situation. Nocerino has more than taken a hold of his spot, while Aquilani complements Nocerino a lot better than Seedorf does, not to mention the right and left debacle Seedorf poses when he's played in the midfield 3.

(IMG:style_emoticons/default/innocent.gif) Please just stop it, i highly doubt there is a member on the forum who thinks you are capable of distributing blame outside of Ibra and Allegri, the best player in the league and the only Scudetto winning coach in the league, respectively. It would be more enriching if you took on less exhaustingly unidimensional approaches: Can a bench player not just have a good game without the coach being called "n00b oldfashioned biassed"? Granted you exercised great restraint when coming out with a much less invasive title for Allegri, and for that i am thankful (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

Forza El Sha (IMG:style_emoticons/default/devilsmiley.gif)

This post has been edited by il_diavolo_mtl: Jan 4 2012, 06:48 PM

Thanks guys for keeping me updated while I wasn't home ;D

Wow bro I think you just supplied THE coolest story evarrr. I’m printing it as we speak and will use it for deep introspection/meditation (no homo) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

In other news I’m loving the way Allegri gets the accolades piled on him for winning the scudetto with the best squad in the whole of Italy and flopping at the hands of the mighty Tottenham (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

Finally also rather fond of the way people are such blind devotees of the guy that they support the Giovinco-ing of Stephan El Shaararwry. Despite the fact that he has ALWAYS done well when given time. Despite the fact that his skill set might be potentially useful in solving our CAM dilemma. Despite the fact that he has looked infinitely more deserving of playing time than …say Urby. Truly magnificent (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)

I agree with you drew, but your obnoxious posting style is what sets people off, I'm sure no one is happy that Allegri keeps giving Urby time behind the strikers when there's El Shaa on the bench. But a more tactile approach could maybe lessen the hostile responses you get. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

Yes I totally take your point on my style Han but I'd wish people separated the FACTS from the FRILLS.

There are a lot of external things that serve to adorn things/people that may be totally unrelated to their TRUE worth or beauty.

Allegri is rightly the scudetto holding coach but in a season where Juve weren't a threat and Inter was clearly on the decline, could he rightly have lost the scudetto with the best squad in Italy? Heck even Zaccheroni and Benitez had their moments of brilliance and I'd want neither to coach Milan.

Allegri has been given double what L30 got fired for and proportionately more than even Ancelotti and to me he has yet to deliver on the massive hype. These are FACTS. My abrasive criticism of him is partly in response to the INCREDIBLE amount of plaudits he receives (see Pirlo (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif) )for being an average- to good coach. Not the best. Not world class either. And most disgustingly of all this team is so incredibly similar to the iBra dependant Inter of old....courtesy Mr. "iBra is the symbol of Milan (IMG:style_emoticons/default/puke.gif) " Allegri

For all those that hate me and think $h!tlegri is the second coming of Sacchi or something...let me ask you this....does it seem right that Milan should adopt the same boring style of the calciopoli driven inter? The systematic destruction of talents at Jube....heck we have helped Nocerino, and Aqua revive their careers and Giovinco had to leave to prove himself at Parma. Miccoli's true brilliance and talents would never be appreciated by the non serie aficionados because of a a similarly boring and biased $#!t by the name of Marcello Lippi (yes THE WORLD CUP, scudetto and CL winning Lippi)

the only thing is that Lippi might have been biased, stunted the growth of young talent in favour of his senatores and that fairy Pirlo.....but Allegri isn't blessed with the diverse talents today as he had. Neither is he half the tactician. The results will thus be proportinately lower.

This post has been edited by drucurl: Jan 4 2012, 09:09 PM

We all agree that Allegri isn't amazing,and second coming of Sacchi..and stuff.But,if you can see if from our point of view.

1-Allegri is a young coach who shows signs of improvments.We've also shown this season that we have a plan/formation B.
2-He can handle ****.
3-Their are no amazing coaches available at this time.

No point mtl.

Rule 1 of Milanfan - Allegri is to be blamed for everything, praised for nothing.
Rule 2 of Milanfan - Ancelotti is to be priased for everything, blamed for nothing.

Your above post alludes to Allegri not being 100% incompetent, so therefore your opinion is incorrect.

This post has been edited by kurtsimonw: Jan 4 2012, 09:58 PM

You think I disagree with you in regards to Allegri and his short comings (aside from the Pirlo bit - I think he's showing who was right and who was wrong for Juve (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) ). I'm not saying I don't agree with all that, infact I started my post with saying that I agree with you, and you can find many people who simply cannot stand him either, but you come on too strong and it just rubs people the wrong way.

I'm just telling you this as a piece of advice, start responding with a bit more eloquence and more people will start to take you seriously, instead of sniping at you, even when you're making valid points

Rule 3 of Milanfan - the mods over here are pretty patient with an attention seeking trolls.
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This post has been edited by Jack Bauer: Jan 4 2012, 11:54 PM