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han2503
The time on the official site is at 7:30pm so I can only assume that it's 7:30pm CET.

My only hope is that no one gets injured in this meaningless friendly
CrazyMilanFan
i think it is 16:30 CET and 19:30 Local time
Jack Bauer


Rino will play in this game.
han2503
QUOTE (CrazyMilanFan @ Jan 3 2012, 05:36 PM) *
i think it is 16:30 CET and 19:30 Local time

Yeah, just checked it on a streaming site, it's at 16:30 CET
William405
So,it starts after half an hour?
CrazyMilanFan
Amelia; De Sciglio, Mexes, Thiago Silva, Taiwo; Aquilani, Van Bommel, Nocerino; Robinho; Ibrahimovic, Pato

pretty strong linup for a friendly..
William405
Allegri's testing the 4-3-3,nice.
han2503
QUOTE (William405 @ Jan 4 2012, 04:08 PM) *
Allegri's testing the 4-3-3,nice.

I'd like to see Prince for Aqui or Nocerino in the 2nd half, see how the midfield does
drucurl
Patooooooooo
han2503
Pato goal

Nice play between him and Ibra
drucurl
QUOTE (han2503 @ Jan 4 2012, 11:39 AM) *
Pato goal

Nice play between him and Ibra

He almost missed. Robinho would have found a way laugh.gif
han2503
QUOTE (drucurl @ Jan 4 2012, 04:47 PM) *
He almost missed. Robinho would have found a way laugh.gif

I don't think he was expecting Ibra to pass to him, so it came slightly behind him, but he still managed to backheel it. I don't ever expect Pato to miss any clear cut chance
drucurl
Nocerino almost gets in a bike ohmy.gif
han2503
laugh.gif

Nocerino nearly scoring a magnificant overhead kick
han2503
That came off the post, I thought the keeper saved it
drucurl
QUOTE (han2503 @ Jan 4 2012, 11:51 AM) *
I don't think he was expecting Ibra to pass to him, so it came slightly behind him, but he still managed to backheel it. I don't ever expect Pato to miss any clear cut chance

+1 but if he missed it it would have still looked bad wink.gif
William405
Seems like were killin them?smile.gif
drucurl
QUOTE (William405 @ Jan 4 2012, 11:56 AM) *
Seems like were killin them?smile.gif

Nah....Pastore and Nene are doing quite well. Our midfield is AWOL but our attack is doing quite well. when Robinho makes some more progress expect fireworks. I'm not sure if it's iBra as CAM behind Robinho or if Robinho is playing as a kind of free winger behind iBra then Pato (4-4-1-1)
han2503
btw, anyone know if Abate is still injured?
han2503
QUOTE (drucurl @ Jan 4 2012, 05:06 PM) *
Nah....Pastore and Nene are doing quite well. Our midfield is AWOL but our attack is doing quite well. when Robinho makes some more progress expect fireworks. I'm not sure if it's iBra as CAM behind Robinho or if Robinho is playing as a kind of free winger behind iBra then Pato (4-4-1-1)

Anything that keeps Robinho far away from goal is fine with me
han2503
Rino, Ambro, Pippo, Bonera all on the pitch.
Jack Bauer
2nd half XI: Abbiati; Zambrotta, Nesta, Bonera, Antonini; Gattuso, Ambrosini, Urby; Valoti; Shaarawy, Pippo.
han2503
It's so funny when Urby is the best player on the pitch
han2503
Nice skill from the Egyption, almost scores on the volley
il_diavolo_mtl
Watching this game i have renewed my faith in El Sharaawy, he really does have all the tools to be a big time player for us, maybe even our AM in the future...
il_diavolo_mtl
Inzaghi wasting his 4-5th chance... this is sad, i really just want him to retire already sad.gif
han2503
QUOTE (il_diavolo_mtl @ Jan 4 2012, 06:17 PM) *
Watching this game i have renewed my faith in El Sharaawy, he really does have all the tools to be a big time player for us, maybe even our AM in the future...

I was just about to post about him.

Watching this game, it's such a shame that he doesn't get a chance on a regular basis for us. I just hope that once the Coppa matches start he'll be a sure starter in those games instead of Ibra or Pato.
il_diavolo_mtl
Bonnera huge lapse in defense almost causing them to tie it up
han2503
QUOTE (il_diavolo_mtl @ Jan 4 2012, 06:18 PM) *
Inzaghi wasting his 4-5th chance... this is sad, i really just want him to retire already sad.gif

He's being way too selfish as well, it's not like scoring in this game will change anything for him. El Shaa was wide open for the pass in front of goal, but Pippo tried to dribble his defender (something he couldn't even accomplish during his younger years), instead of squaring it to El Shaarawy
il_diavolo_mtl
FT. It's a shame, with Pippo losing the ball as often as he did, that we did not see the second unit offense work with possession it's magic (outside of the 4-5 chances created for Pippo)
han2503
QUOTE (il_diavolo_mtl @ Jan 4 2012, 06:21 PM) *
FT. It's a shame, with Pippo losing the ball as often as he did, that we did not see the second unit offense work with possession it's magic (outside of the 4-5 chances created for Pippo)

Watching this I can understand why Allegri has kept Pippo at a distance, he just cannot cut it anymore, Ambro and Rino are also none players these days, I know Rino's been out for a long time but he didn't even get the basics right.

I hope all of these players bar Nesta retire at the end of this season, they are tarnishing what was once a beautiful legacy
drucurl
QUOTE (han2503 @ Jan 4 2012, 01:23 PM) *
Watching this I can understand why Allegri has kept Pippo at a distance, he just cannot cut it anymore, Ambro and Rino are also none players these days, I know Rino's been out for a long time but he didn't even get the basics right.

I hope all of these players bar Nesta retire at the end of this season, they are tarnishing what was once a beautiful legacy

Well to be fair at his age and given the lengthy spell out with injury, one couldn't expect Inzaghi's first real match to be a vintage one
drucurl
QUOTE (il_diavolo_mtl @ Jan 4 2012, 01:17 PM) *
Watching this game i have renewed my faith in El Sharaawy, he really does have all the tools to be a big time player for us, maybe even our AM in the future...

There's no reason to "renew" anything. He was never poor for us. Our n00b oldfashioned biassed coach just stopped playing him so you saw him less that's all
il_diavolo_mtl
Honorable mentions (i only caught the last 20 minutes) Antonini, Abbiatti, El Sha, Valoti (although he rarely got the ball he seemed to be very effective with possession wether passing dribbling or going into dangerous positions)

The age of our midfield was made apparent when, after a FK in their own half, PSG bombed the ball up and the only players to get back were El Sha and emanuelson while the mid was practically still in PSG's half... Bonnera makes 1 big mistake, Abbiati save, of the rebound their wingers puts it in the middle (where our midfield SHOULD BE by then) and another unchallenged shot another great save by abbs
il_diavolo_mtl
QUOTE (han2503 @ Jan 4 2012, 12:23 PM) *
Watching this I can understand why Allegri has kept Pippo at a distance, he just cannot cut it anymore, Ambro and Rino are also none players these days, I know Rino's been out for a long time but he didn't even get the basics right.

I hope all of these players bar Nesta retire at the end of this season, they are tarnishing what was once a beautiful legacy

Completely agreed, i didn't want to be the first to bring up rino but in the 20 minutes i watched he missed a great deal of simple, unchallenged passes from as close as 2-3m. I get that his recovery has been remarkable and no one was more happy to hear of his inclusion then me, but i cannot bear to see this wounded gladiator mess-up as much, i really really REALLY want the old guard to retire with one last scudetto this year, hopefully not compromising our chances for it with these bashful outings :sad:
han2503
QUOTE (drucurl @ Jan 4 2012, 06:25 PM) *
Well to be fair at his age and given the lengthy spell out with injury, one couldn't expect Inzaghi's first real match to be a vintage one

I just don't think he can do it any longer, he was quick once, so his great lack of skill was a none factor because he simply weaseled his way past defenders. Pippo has probably been out of shape for a while now. Allegri is no angel and I'm very far from being a fan of his, but just watching him trudge along trying in vain to do something other than stumble over the ball was just painful to watch

QUOTE (il_diavolo_mtl @ Jan 4 2012, 06:32 PM) *
Completely agreed, i didn't want to be the first to bring up rino but in the 20 minutes i watched he missed a great deal of simple, unchallenged passes from as close as 2-3m. I get that his recovery has been remarkable and no one was more happy to hear of his inclusion then me, but i cannot bear to see this wounded gladiator mess-up as much, i really really REALLY want the old guard to retire with one last scudetto this year, hopefully not compromising our chances for it with these bashful outings :sad:

I can't see any of those players getting on the pitch at this point unless we're in an emergency situation. Nocerino has more than taken a hold of his spot, while Aquilani complements Nocerino a lot better than Seedorf does, not to mention the right and left debacle Seedorf poses when he's played in the midfield 3.
il_diavolo_mtl
QUOTE (drucurl @ Jan 4 2012, 12:27 PM) *
There's no reason to "renew" anything. He was never poor for us. Our n00b oldfashioned biassed coach just stopped playing him so you saw him less that's all

innocent.gif Please just stop it, i highly doubt there is a member on the forum who thinks you are capable of distributing blame outside of Ibra and Allegri, the best player in the league and the only Scudetto winning coach in the league, respectively. It would be more enriching if you took on less exhaustingly unidimensional approaches: Can a bench player not just have a good game without the coach being called "n00b oldfashioned biassed"? Granted you exercised great restraint when coming out with a much less invasive title for Allegri, and for that i am thankful wink.gif

Forza El Sha devilsmiley.gif
William405
Thanks guys for keeping me updated while I wasn't home ;D
drucurl
QUOTE (il_diavolo_mtl @ Jan 4 2012, 01:45 PM) *
innocent.gif Please just stop it, i highly doubt there is a member on the forum who thinks you are capable of distributing blame outside of Ibra and Allegri, the best player in the league and the only Scudetto winning coach in the league, respectively. It would be more enriching if you took on less exhaustingly unidimensional approaches: Can a bench player not just have a good game without the coach being called "n00b oldfashioned biassed"? Granted you exercised great restraint when coming out with a much less invasive title for Allegri, and for that i am thankful wink.gif

Forza El Sha devilsmiley.gif

Wow bro I think you just supplied THE coolest story evarrr. I’m printing it as we speak and will use it for deep introspection/meditation (no homo) smile.gif

In other news I’m loving the way Allegri gets the accolades piled on him for winning the scudetto with the best squad in the whole of Italy and flopping at the hands of the mighty Tottenham dry.gif

Finally also rather fond of the way people are such blind devotees of the guy that they support the Giovinco-ing of Stephan El Shaararwry. Despite the fact that he has ALWAYS done well when given time. Despite the fact that his skill set might be potentially useful in solving our CAM dilemma. Despite the fact that he has looked infinitely more deserving of playing time than …say Urby. Truly magnificent cool.gif
han2503
QUOTE (drucurl @ Jan 4 2012, 08:00 PM) *
Wow bro I think you just supplied THE coolest story evarrr. I’m printing it as we speak and will use it for deep introspection/meditation (no homo) smile.gif

In other news I’m loving the way Allegri gets the accolades piled on him for winning the scudetto with the best squad in the whole of Italy and flopping at the hands of the mighty Tottenham dry.gif

Finally also rather fond of the way people are such blind devotees of the guy that they support the Giovinco-ing of Stephan El Shaararwry. Despite the fact that he has ALWAYS done well when given time. Despite the fact that his skill set might be potentially useful in solving our CAM dilemma. Despite the fact that he has looked infinitely more deserving of playing time than …say Urby. Truly magnificent cool.gif

I agree with you drew, but your obnoxious posting style is what sets people off, I'm sure no one is happy that Allegri keeps giving Urby time behind the strikers when there's El Shaa on the bench. But a more tactile approach could maybe lessen the hostile responses you get. wink.gif
drucurl
QUOTE (han2503 @ Jan 4 2012, 03:49 PM) *
I agree with you drew, but your obnoxious posting style is what sets people off, I'm sure no one is happy that Allegri keeps giving Urby time behind the strikers when there's El Shaa on the bench. But a more tactile approach could maybe lessen the hostile responses you get. wink.gif
Yes I totally take your point on my style Han but I'd wish people separated the FACTS from the FRILLS.

There are a lot of external things that serve to adorn things/people that may be totally unrelated to their TRUE worth or beauty.

Allegri is rightly the scudetto holding coach but in a season where Juve weren't a threat and Inter was clearly on the decline, could he rightly have lost the scudetto with the best squad in Italy? Heck even Zaccheroni and Benitez had their moments of brilliance and I'd want neither to coach Milan.

Allegri has been given double what L30 got fired for and proportionately more than even Ancelotti and to me he has yet to deliver on the massive hype. These are FACTS. My abrasive criticism of him is partly in response to the INCREDIBLE amount of plaudits he receives (see Pirlo sleep.gif )for being an average- to good coach. Not the best. Not world class either. And most disgustingly of all this team is so incredibly similar to the iBra dependant Inter of old....courtesy Mr. "iBra is the symbol of Milan puke.gif" Allegri

For all those that hate me and think $h!tlegri is the second coming of Sacchi or something...let me ask you this....does it seem right that Milan should adopt the same boring style of the calciopoli driven inter? The systematic destruction of talents at Jube....heck we have helped Nocerino, and Aqua revive their careers and Giovinco had to leave to prove himself at Parma. Miccoli's true brilliance and talents would never be appreciated by the non serie aficionados because of a a similarly boring and biased $#!t by the name of Marcello Lippi (yes THE WORLD CUP, scudetto and CL winning Lippi)

the only thing is that Lippi might have been biased, stunted the growth of young talent in favour of his senatores and that fairy Pirlo.....but Allegri isn't blessed with the diverse talents today as he had. Neither is he half the tactician. The results will thus be proportinately lower.
William405
We all agree that Allegri isn't amazing,and second coming of Sacchi..and stuff.But,if you can see if from our point of view.

1-Allegri is a young coach who shows signs of improvments.We've also shown this season that we have a plan/formation B.
2-He can handle ****.
3-Their are no amazing coaches available at this time.
kurtsimonw
QUOTE (il_diavolo_mtl @ Jan 4 2012, 05:45 PM) *
innocent.gif Please just stop it, i highly doubt there is a member on the forum who thinks you are capable of distributing blame outside of Ibra and Allegri, the best player in the league and the only Scudetto winning coach in the league, respectively. It would be more enriching if you took on less exhaustingly unidimensional approaches: Can a bench player not just have a good game without the coach being called "n00b oldfashioned biassed"? Granted you exercised great restraint when coming out with a much less invasive title for Allegri, and for that i am thankful wink.gif

No point mtl.

Rule 1 of Milanfan - Allegri is to be blamed for everything, praised for nothing.
Rule 2 of Milanfan - Ancelotti is to be priased for everything, blamed for nothing.

Your above post alludes to Allegri not being 100% incompetent, so therefore your opinion is incorrect.
han2503
QUOTE (drucurl @ Jan 4 2012, 09:00 PM) *
Yes I totally take your point on my style Han but I'd wish people separated the FACTS from the FRILLS.

There are a lot of external things that serve to adorn things/people that may be totally unrelated to their TRUE worth or beauty.

Allegri is rightly the scudetto holding coach but in a season where Juve weren't a threat and Inter was clearly on the decline, could he rightly have lost the scudetto with the best squad in Italy? Heck even Zaccheroni and Benitez had their moments of brilliance and I'd want neither to coach Milan.

Allegri has been given double what L30 got fired for and proportionately more than even Ancelotti and to me he has yet to deliver on the massive hype. These are FACTS. My abrasive criticism of him is partly in response to the INCREDIBLE amount of plaudits he receives (see Pirlo sleep.gif )for being an average- to good coach. Not the best. Not world class either. And most disgustingly of all this team is so incredibly similar to the iBra dependant Inter of old....courtesy Mr. "iBra is the symbol of Milan puke.gif" Allegri

For all those that hate me and think $h!tlegri is the second coming of Sacchi or something...let me ask you this....does it seem right that Milan should adopt the same boring style of the calciopoli driven inter? The systematic destruction of talents at Jube....heck we have helped Nocerino, and Aqua revive their careers and Giovinco had to leave to prove himself at Parma. Miccoli's true brilliance and talents would never be appreciated by the non serie aficionados because of a a similarly boring and biased $#!t by the name of Marcello Lippi (yes THE WORLD CUP, scudetto and CL winning Lippi)

the only thing is that Lippi might have been biased, stunted the growth of young talent in favour of his senatores and that fairy Pirlo.....but Allegri isn't blessed with the diverse talents today as he had. Neither is he half the tactician. The results will thus be proportinately lower.

You think I disagree with you in regards to Allegri and his short comings (aside from the Pirlo bit - I think he's showing who was right and who was wrong for Juve wink.gif). I'm not saying I don't agree with all that, infact I started my post with saying that I agree with you, and you can find many people who simply cannot stand him either, but you come on too strong and it just rubs people the wrong way.

I'm just telling you this as a piece of advice, start responding with a bit more eloquence and more people will start to take you seriously, instead of sniping at you, even when you're making valid points
Jack Bauer
QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Jan 4 2012, 11:58 PM) *
No point mtl.

Rule 1 of Milanfan - Allegri is to be blamed for everything, praised for nothing.
Rule 2 of Milanfan - Ancelotti is to be priased for everything, blamed for nothing.

Your above post alludes to Allegri not being 100% incompetent, so therefore your opinion is incorrect.

Rule 3 of Milanfan - the mods over here are pretty patient with an attention seeking trolls.
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drucurl
QUOTE (han2503 @ Jan 4 2012, 05:01 PM) *
You think I disagree with you in regards to Allegri and his short comings (aside from the Pirlo bit - I think he's showing who was right and who was wrong for Juve wink.gif). I'm not saying I don't agree with all that, infact I started my post with saying that I agree with you, and you can find many people who simply cannot stand him either, but you come on too strong and it just rubs people the wrong way.

I'm just telling you this as a piece of advice, start responding with a bit more eloquence and more people will start to take you seriously, instead of sniping at you, even when you're making valid points

Noted. And sorry. I come from a place where Allegri is worshiped as the best coach ever and iBra is called "king Zlatan" and regarded by many as superior to Messi. When Pato scored the goal they were going Ibraaaaaaaaa like it was his goal dry.gif

The number of iBra groupies are incredible and they applaud him even when he does ugly things. The posters that translated his autobiography have their usernames in gold by the admin....etc etc you get the point..I kinda assumed the same nonsense was the rule here. My bad. Will try to be less caustic.
William405
Ibra and allegri are far from worshiped over here if you've noticed wink.gif.
Fillipo Simone
So, now you people get why Inzaghi is treated badly, huh? Didn't you learn anything from last summer's friendlies? When Taiwo "put Robben in his pocket"?

Missed the last 15 minutes, does anyone have a extended highlights version of the game?
CHU-LIP
QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Jan 5 2012, 02:21 PM) *
So, now you people get why Inzaghi is treated badly, huh? Didn't you learn anything from last summer's friendlies? When Taiwo "put Robben in his pocket"?

What are you trying to tell?
Fillipo Simone
QUOTE (CHU-LIP @ Jan 5 2012, 01:25 PM) *
What are you trying to tell?

I'm trying to tell that it's ridiculous to judge someone, even a 50 year old player, based on one friendly. People here tried to convince me Taiwo is great because he marked Robben brilliantly at the Audi Cup and prevented him from doing us any damage.

Same here...to say all comes down to yesterdays match that proved Inzaghi is finished is ridiculous to me.
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