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Sep 7 2011, 10:04 AM
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QUOTE (Dracoris @ Sep 6 2011, 11:24 PM)  The guy needs to take it like a man and prove to Allegri why (If) he was wrong on the field. And you think Allegri would/will give him the chance?
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Sep 7 2011, 10:08 AM
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QUOTE (Zed.D @ Sep 7 2011, 10:15 AM)  You'd expect more professionalism from someone with his age and experience. he's acting like a big child.
I think Allegri did the right thing. Pippo was coming from a severe injury, and there's a bunch of great strikers already available. what did he expect? there is a limit, you can't keep on playing until late 30's and expect to always be picked as well after not having played for months. He's not expecting to be picked up always nor does he want first team football or something surreal. He just wanted to get a chance against teams like BATE and Pilsen, where he could score a goal even with 45. I don't think it's that much to ask - Milan always was gracious to their former stars, even Ibrahim Ba got a similar treatment at a time where he was half of the footballer Pippo is today. Why did we stopped to act the same way now? A bunch of great strikers? Let's see...Ibra, Pato, Cassano, Robby? Can't you imagine a 5th there with them?
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Sep 7 2011, 10:28 AM
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QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Sep 7 2011, 10:00 AM)  Ungrateful, it disgusts me how our heros are treated on this forum. If you think people only react this way on this forum think again. A LOT of Milan fans feel that our senators have over stayed their welcome, and they do voice these frustrations. Sure there are the nostalgic ones who still believe that we can actually compete while carrying Rino in the starting 11, but it's not realistic. Not in today's football. And I'm sorry, I might love a player, I'm personally still a huge Rino fan, but I love the club more, and him still being given a starting position is hurting the team. Not saying that Pippo's situation is the same, but I think it is a bit selfish for him to expect time in the CL, especially when there are 4 other strikers who work their @sses off in the league every week. If Pippo is really behaving the way he is then I am disappointed, yes he's given a lot to Milan, but Milan has given a lot to him, never forget that. Him acting the way he is is not good for the club and the players, especially when he's supposed to be an example to his younger peers. If he's mad at Allegri, then fair enough, it's in his own right, but responding in such a petulant way is not going to hep anyone. He should put his head down and work his @ss off to get fit and prove to Allegri that he is worthy of that spot and that Allegri made a mistake by not picking him. Sulking and not talking to anyone will only put him in a worse spot. QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Sep 7 2011, 10:08 AM)  He's not expecting to be picked up always nor does he want first team football or something surreal. He just wanted to get a chance against teams like BATE and Pilsen, where he could score a goal even with 45. I don't think it's that much to ask - Milan always was gracious to their former stars, even Ibrahim Ba got a similar treatment at a time where he was half of the footballer Pippo is today. Why did we stopped to act the same way now?
A bunch of great strikers? Let's see...Ibra, Pato, Cassano, Robby? Can't you imagine a 5th there with them? If he's not fit then he would have likely missed the majority of the group games, and he seems to be picking one injury after another. No one knows what his physical status is, aside from the medical team and Allegri himself. And as I said above, it's selfish on Pippo's part to expect such a luxury. His record is not as important as Milan. I agree that Allegri leaving him out is cold, especially with Rino suspended for nearly the entire group match. But we don't know what the actual circumstances are. QUOTE (acid911 @ Sep 7 2011, 10:10 AM)  (IMG: http://27.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lil4dcVaAI1qiqjr3o1_500.png) You either die a hero or live long enough to see yourself become the villain. (IMG: style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) And that's that. Agreed. Most fans are beginning to see, what were once their great idols, as a hindrance to the team. And personally I cannot fault them for feeling this way, no matter how much I used to admire and follow these players. I'm a Milan fan first and foremost.
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Sep 7 2011, 10:34 AM
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QUOTE (han2503 @ Sep 7 2011, 02:28 PM)  Agreed. Most fans are beginning to see, what were once their great idols, as a hindrance to the team. And personally I cannot fault them for feeling this way, no matter how much I used to admire and follow these players. I'm a Milan fan first and foremost. Yeah man, and it's not like his record is going to stay for ever. (IMG: style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif) That little creep from Barcelona is going to overrun it within a few years. Besides, strikers usually are the first to close their account, most of them as soon as they turn 30. I'm not saying Inzaghi can't cut it now, he probably still can in Europe, but surely he plans to hang his boot, does he? If not now, then next year, or a season after that. But really, don't disturb the atmosphere of the locker room. No one's going to benefit because of this - not Inzaghi, not the players, neither the management, and definitely nor the fans.
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Sep 7 2011, 10:54 AM
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QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Sep 7 2011, 01:30 PM)  Ungrateful, it disgusts me how our heros are treated on this forum. It disgusts you to see that I expect Pippo to show more professionalism and respect the decision of his coach? how typically right-wing-ish of you (IMG: style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) And what the BEEP does it have to do with being ungrateful? I am grateful for what he's done, especially the Athens final. does it mean I accept his childish behavior like not talking to anyone in Milanello just because he wasn't included in the CL list? no. In my opinion, no one except Maldini and Billy was/is above criticism. not even heroes like Sheva, Pippo, Rino, Kaka, Ambro, etc. QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Sep 7 2011, 01:38 PM)  He's not expecting to be picked up always nor does he want first team football or something surreal. He just wanted to get a chance against teams like BATE and Pilsen, where he could score a goal even with 45. I don't think it's that much to ask - Milan always was gracious to their former stars, even Ibrahim Ba got a similar treatment at a time where he was half of the footballer Pippo is today. Why did we stopped to act the same way now?
A bunch of great strikers? Let's see...Ibra, Pato, Cassano, Robby? Can't you imagine a 5th there with them? You're making a drama out it. Pippo isn't being treated badly and the fact that we keep renewing with him every season proves this. he wants a chance against Bate and Pilsen? so does any other player. so what? it's not like it gives Pippo any right or advantage over the rest. what gives Pippo the disadvantage (and to Max the right to exclude him from the list for now) however, is his age and physical condition.
This post has been edited by Zed.D: Sep 7 2011, 11:38 AM
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Sep 7 2011, 02:04 PM
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QUOTE Sure there are the nostalgic ones who still believe that we can actually compete while carrying Rino in the starting 11, but it's not realistic. Not in today's football. And I'm sorry, I might love a player, I'm personally still a huge Rino fan, but I love the club more, and him still being given a starting position is hurting the team. Well, you should try to be a bit less biased. It's not only nostalgic - hey, we actually won the scudetto with Rino, Ambro, Clarence, Pippo, Sandro and the others. So saying it's not realistic to expect us winning with them is self-redundant. I'm not gonna argue weather we've won with them or, like some would say, despite them - fact stays - the all contributed to the victory. So a modus vivendi including both the senators and the new players and youngsters is possible, and there is no reason to label fans nostalgic only because they appreciate times that only happened a moment ago. Sometimes you make me feel like I'm speaking about Gianni Rivera and Lorenzo Buffon, not Pippo or Ambro. I think appreciation of history and records is a important part of Milan, or at least was. I think that exactly such small and unimportant steps, like paying Redondo his wages even if he was terribly injured or picking up Ibrahim Ba from a third-class team back to Serie A is what Milan makes Milan; those steps may seem comic to some, even unwise, but in the end they create and form a mentality and atmosphere that is unique. QUOTE If he's mad at Allegri, then fair enough, it's in his own right, but responding in such a petulant way is not going to hep anyone. He should put his head down and work his @ss off to get fit and prove to Allegri that he is worthy of that spot and that Allegri made a mistake by not picking him. Sulking and not talking to anyone will only put him in a worse spot. It's easy to be wise from a sofa or chair, but I'm always trying to understand people. In the end, everyone acts childish and everyone has feelings, I don't think we're in a position to judge those people because we know to little of what actually is happening or happened. QUOTE His record is not as important as Milan. It isn't, but his will and morale would be immensely important to Milan in those matches. QUOTE You're making a drama out it. Pippo isn't being treated badly and the fact that we keep renewing with him every season proves this. he wants a chance against Bate and Pilsen? so does any other player. so what? it's not like it gives Pippo any right or advantage over the rest. what gives Pippo the disadvantage (and to Max the right to exclude him from the list for now) however, is his age and physical condition. Haha, I don't think even you believe in what you said. No, he has not the advantage over anyone and yes he has a disadvantage - at the same time he has a big motivational advantage. Just remember Real Madrid. I'm convinced that he could do such things again with his motivation, and that gives him the edge over a match-tired Ibra or a inconsistent Pato or Robinho. Every of those guys has a disadvantage, and Pippo's clearly is his health, but I don't think any of the 4 strikers would mind Pippo playing 30 minutes against BATE.
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Sep 7 2011, 03:47 PM
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QUOTE (Dracoris @ Sep 7 2011, 04:33 PM)  I mean no disrespect but quit being a drama Queen. Isn't he free to address his opinion?
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