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> Serie A - Week 25 - AC Milan - Parma FC, Date: 12/02/11 Time: 18:00 CET

 
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post Feb 10 2011, 12:18 PM
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QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Feb 10 2011, 08:00 AM) *
All I have to say is if Ambro played the way Flamini played the last match, he'd be getting skewered.

@Filippo: Chill bro. He's 31+ and Italian and past it. Who the f@ck gives a damn that our CAPTAIN has been playing through pain for the past 3 matches coz there was no one else to step up.That's what Captains do....set examples.

I don't personally give a damn. What matters is that for the 30 odd players in our squad Ambro and Rino are leaders. I don't think for a moment Ibra or Pato are gonna listen when T.Silva yells at them to cover a flank. But try doing that to Max/Rino or even Zee. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) I'd say only less than 30% of a team's life is on the pitch. The rest of it is in training and off it. So being a leader of a football team has far more to it than being the most talented player on the pitch. Maldini made R99 do pushups when he came late to training. Imagine T.Silva doing that to Ibra. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)


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post Feb 10 2011, 03:08 PM
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You guys realize that Ibra is not allowed to play against Parma due to 5 yellow cards????
So it could be interesting maybe that for once see binho behind cassano and pato
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post Feb 10 2011, 03:15 PM
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QUOTE (Woorya @ Feb 10 2011, 09:08 AM) *
You guys realize that Ibra is not allowed to play against Parma due to 5 yellow cards????
So it could be interesting maybe that for once see binho behind cassano and pato

only if he takes a blood pact not to shoot...
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post Feb 10 2011, 03:57 PM
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QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Feb 10 2011, 12:14 PM) *
Exactly. I didn't criticise Flamini. Just said that youth it seems (even if it's not really young in Flamini's case) is allowed to get away with anything...injuries included.

Oh...I think Ibra listens. Just to some people.

T.Silva is definitely not Captain material (yet). And trust me Andy P, while inspirational on the field, couldn't possibly do much off it. It's a problem with players who have talent, but no real gritty persona. Pirlo is way to inward to be a Captain. A role model certainly, not captain.

Totally agree.

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You guys realize that Ibra is not allowed to play against Parma due to 5 yellow cards????
So it could be interesting maybe that for once see binho behind cassano and pato

I think it's a good news all things considered. Ibra didn't perform as good as usual for the last couple of matches, he'll be rested, while Pato will once more get the chance playing a CF.
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post Feb 10 2011, 04:42 PM
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Pato has to impress in this one!
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post Feb 10 2011, 05:49 PM
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QUOTE (il_diavolo_mtl @ Feb 10 2011, 06:32 AM) *
it was me and Han against the world for the past seasons when it came to Ambro and Rino being "too old" 4 years ago. This is just disrespectful. It seams clear to me they are playing selfishly as they can't keep up with Anyone(!) in a relatively slow league. For all you flamini haters, can i simply ask you how many starts the man has had since coming. It is unrelated to his talent, as the old guard have guaranteed starts. It's a shame because we have sooo much pulp : Bonnera (are you f*k*n* kidding me, he lost us the genoa match too) Seedorf, Ambro and rino. we could actually survive cutting this waste and get a young LB prospect (antonini can play another year IMO) and a creative mid to make us less Pirlo dependent. it's sad to think we spend probably over 10M a year on the aforementioned lottery winners.


QFT.

QUOTE (han2503 @ Feb 10 2011, 06:32 AM) *
Once again Jack you over simplify things.


So, I'm not the only one who thinks Jack oversimplifies things way too often. Good.

QUOTE (Woorya @ Feb 10 2011, 04:08 PM) *
You guys realize that Ibra is not allowed to play against Parma due to 5 yellow cards????


LOL, you just made that up. It's three yellow cards for every suspension. Zlatan will be regularly on the pitch against Parma.
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post Feb 10 2011, 05:56 PM
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QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Feb 9 2011, 10:59 PM) *
And if one player deserves to be,... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) (it's Nesta...)

Thank God we don't live in a meritocracy yet. Milan captains are decided by a strict rule and there's no should be or could be.

QUOTE (X-Offender @ Feb 9 2011, 11:13 PM) *
Meritocracy means being promoted due to your merits. So, in other words, Milan's captain must be the best performing player.

So Fillipo was saying I mentioned Silva because of him being (one of the) best preformer? If that's what he thought, he couldn't be more wrong. Thiago Silva shows as in captain skills he should be our future captain. Just look at him... it makes me sad several people here don't think he's captain material. I'm stunned.

QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Feb 10 2011, 12:01 AM) *
To become Milans captain one must have the most appearances for the club. It's a simple rule that we follow for decades. That said, Thiago can't be our captain, for good or for worse.

I believe it's not the right way to make one the captain because he is longest at the club. The one most qualified for it should be captain (of course he should be around here for a while, but not necessary longer than anyone). I'm not sure we really followed that rule for decades like you're saying, I think it's more coincidence that it seems that way lately.

As it stands now, when players like Ambrosini and Gattuso are no longer Milan players, Thiago Silva is the most logical choice to be the next one (as it looks now). In my opinion he is the most qualified, not because he's an awesome player, maybe also, but that's not the main reason. If we folling that rule of yours, we might get someone as captain who isn't really made for that. How does that makes sense?
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post Feb 10 2011, 06:17 PM
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Well, what's the reason then that makes Thiago the most logical choice?
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post Feb 10 2011, 06:25 PM
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He shows a lot of captaincy characteristics in my opinion.
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post Feb 10 2011, 09:36 PM
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QUOTE (CHU-LIP @ Feb 10 2011, 06:25 PM) *
He shows a lot of captaincy characteristics in my opinion.

Which exactly are...?
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QUOTE (X-Offender @ Feb 10 2011, 11:49 AM) *
QFT.

huh?
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QUOTE (il_diavolo_mtl @ Feb 10 2011, 10:39 PM) *
huh?


Quoted for truth.
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Always gets other people who don't know what the words QFT stands for. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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QUOTE (il_diavolo_mtl @ Feb 10 2011, 04:39 PM) *
huh?



QUOTE (X-Offender @ Feb 10 2011, 04:49 PM) *
Quoted for truth.


As stated on Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/QFT):

"Quoted For Truth" ("qft"), a label originally used on Internet forums when someone quotes a debated statement, thereby ensuring that the original statement cannot be edited or deleted by the person being quoted. Later, used merely as a indication of agreement or support with another message.
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QUOTE (X-Offender @ Feb 10 2011, 05:49 PM) *
LOL, you just made that up. It's three yellow cards for every suspension. Zlatan will be regularly on the pitch against Parma.


Could you or someone please clarify the rules....I first thought it was 5 yellow cards like in the rest of the big european leagues. You said 3 so i googled but couldn't find any kind of confirmation but at a forum someone stated this:

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This is all according to FM, which (at least for the world's larger leagues) I take as fact.

In England, it's a one match suspension after 5 yellows, two matches after an additional 5, and three matches after every further group of 5. And for reds, it's one match for the first red, two matches for the second red, three matches for the third, and so on...

In both Germany and Spain, it's a one match suspension for every 5 yellows, and a one match suspension for every red.

Then there's Italy...here goes:
One match suspension after the first four yellows.
One match suspension after the next four yellows.
One match suspension after the next four yellows.
One match suspension after the next three yellows.
One match suspension after the next two yellows.
One match suspension for each additional yellow card.

And...a one match suspention for each red.

I wonder if anyone's ever made it past 17 yellows so that each yellow basically acts as a red...

Of course, reds can always result in additional match bans if the play was blatantly dangerous or the player was throwing punches or deliberate kicks at another player.
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