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post Jan 13 2011, 06:40 PM
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QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Jan 13 2011, 07:06 PM) *
What's low? That he see's Iraq as their arch rival?


No,the reason behind it.

Not only that,these people have been through masacres,and their country is filled with terrorism,and Usa forces.They are trying to build a country out of this corruption.The fact that they've won the Asian cup is impressive enough.

It's other people that he's considering them their "rival",even though that's not important;it's just a silly match in a sports game...

I don't know I just felt it wasn't right,calling it "low" is an exaggeration though I agree.
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post Jan 13 2011, 07:35 PM
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I do understand what you're trying to say, but I disagree.

For starters, the countries are in close proximity to one another, that's generally enough for something to be labelled a 'rivalry'. There's also a history between the countries, which again, will mean that fans/people of the countries will consider it a rivalry. Put both of these together and you're going to get a rivalry.

It'd be like saying that calling Germany/Holland or England/Ireland a rivalry is low, it's not, it's just how the people feel about each other.

In any case, rivalries are a good thing. Without them, sport would be dull - so long as fans don't take it too far. If there's no trouble caused, then it's good for the sport.
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post Jan 13 2011, 07:38 PM
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QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Jan 13 2011, 07:35 PM) *
I do understand what you're trying to say, but I disagree.

For starters, the countries are in close proximity to one another, that's generally enough for something to be labelled a 'rivalry'. There's also a history between the countries, which again, will mean that fans/people of the countries will consider it a rivalry. Put both of these together and you're going to get a rivalry.

It'd be like saying that calling Germany/Holland or England/Ireland a rivalry is low, it's not, it's just how the people feel about each other.

In any case, rivalries are a good thing. Without them, sport would be dull - so long as fans don't take it too far. If there's no trouble caused, then it's good for the sport.


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post Jan 13 2011, 08:29 PM
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QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Jan 13 2011, 08:35 PM) *
I do understand what you're trying to say, but I disagree.

For starters, the countries are in close proximity to one another, that's generally enough for something to be labelled a 'rivalry'. There's also a history between the countries, which again, will mean that fans/people of the countries will consider it a rivalry. Put both of these together and you're going to get a rivalry.

It'd be like saying that calling Germany/Holland or England/Ireland a rivalry is low, it's not, it's just how the people feel about each other.

In any case, rivalries are a good thing. Without them, sport would be dull - so long as fans don't take it too far. If there's no trouble caused, then it's good for the sport.


I agree,it just annoyed me,and I may have exaggerated.


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post Jan 22 2011, 04:26 PM
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This australia 0-0 Iraq game is in E.T very dull
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post Jan 22 2011, 05:12 PM
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Australia1 - 0Iraq

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post Jan 23 2011, 11:53 AM
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It'd be funny if Oz win it.

England should enter the North American cup next or something, just so we win a trophy. International football is becoming a joke.
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post Jan 23 2011, 12:16 PM
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QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Jan 23 2011, 10:53 AM) *
It'd be funny if Oz win it.

England should enter the North American cup next or something, just so we win a trophy. International football is becoming a joke.

I still never got why Australia got moved to Asia, was it just to get them into the World Cup and qualify against better opposition? As they'd always qualify from their zone but not beat the South Americans in the play-offs. Yet, New Zealand did just that last time!
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post Jan 23 2011, 12:52 PM
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I think their reasoning was lack of competition. It's hard to improve when you're winning 32-0 I suppose.

You shouldn't just be allowed to move region though, it just undermines the whole point. I can sort of understand Israel having to play in Europe, but even I don't agree with that. If some Asian countries have a problem with Israel, **** 'em off and let Israel play.
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QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Jan 23 2011, 11:52 AM) *
I think their reasoning was lack of competition. It's hard to improve when you're winning 32-0 I suppose.

Was that happening every game though? I mean I know they won by that once.

I think the reason was there frustration of having to play the South American's who would almost always beat them until 2006.
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post Jan 28 2011, 03:18 AM
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I do not believe in changing origins like regions. I think a team (and what is a part of it) is the location and should stick to it. However, I do not mind invitation plays at tournaments, like in Copa America 2011, 日本 has been invited to play for the second time. The last time we played there we managed to take point and score, which is part of our history, it makes me proud.

I also remember back in the days when a player could play for several country teams.

Australia is map wise, very close to countries in Asia, which may add to it.

Though in football it may be debated about other parts of a country to affect it, like, I think Iraq does not play matches at home.
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post Jan 29 2011, 05:30 PM
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Um,their is the finals now.Japan vs Australia 0-0 73minutes.
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post Jan 29 2011, 05:56 PM
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FT 0-0.
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post Jan 29 2011, 06:32 PM
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Japan wins Asian Cup. Beautiful goal by Lee, assist from Nagatomo.

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post Jan 29 2011, 06:35 PM
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Well done to Japan!

Congrats to Australia for being the 2nd best team in a region they're not even in.
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