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post Sep 26 2010, 07:04 PM
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post Sep 26 2010, 07:42 PM
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QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Sep 26 2010, 07:00 PM) *
Yes, but I don't recall saying I want Seedorf in the team either.

You didn't but Chu-lip and x-off say Seedorf is the better option. And who would you put in Dinho's place since you don't want either?

You know if we had a top AM, I would be all for it, but currently Dinho is our best option.
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post Sep 26 2010, 08:26 PM
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post Sep 26 2010, 08:27 PM
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QUOTE (Coldest @ Sep 26 2010, 08:26 PM) *
Don't give up, Han... I'm all with you (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

I never give up. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/96.gif)
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post Sep 26 2010, 08:33 PM
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QUOTE (han2503 @ Sep 26 2010, 07:42 PM) *
You didn't but Chu-lip and x-off say Seedorf is the better option. And who would you put in Dinho's place since you don't want either?

You know if we had a top AM, I would be all for it, but currently Dinho is our best option.

I'd rather have Pato, Robinho or Boateng on the wing to those 2.
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post Sep 26 2010, 08:52 PM
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QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Sep 26 2010, 08:33 PM) *
I'd rather have Pato, Robinho or Boateng on the wing to those 2.

We're not really talking about the wing but the position behind the strikers. Non of the players you mentioned can play that position

And really Boateng on the wing?
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post Sep 26 2010, 08:53 PM
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QUOTE (CHU-LIP @ Sep 26 2010, 07:03 PM) *
But as long as Pato is out, I find it difficult to bench Ronaldinho, so I hope he preforms better.


This. The moment Pato gets back, I want our attacking line to be Robinho-Ibra-Pato.

I just hope Dinho decides to leave next summer. That's the only hope we have for 1. getting rid of him and 2. signing someone good enough to be our trequartista behind Pato and Ibra.
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post Sep 26 2010, 08:54 PM
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QUOTE (han2503 @ Sep 26 2010, 09:52 PM) *
We're not really talking about the wing but the position behind the strikers. Non of the players you mentioned can play that position

And really Boateng on the wing?

I don't see Ronaldinho as an AM. Seedorf is capable of playing there, but we should play 4-3-3ish with Robinho, Zlatan and Pato. At least Robinho contributes in defending (tracks back) and moves a lot, so he gives us some balance. Seedorf I would use as alternative for Pirlo. I don't like playing both.

Boateng should play in midfield indeed.
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post Sep 26 2010, 08:56 PM
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QUOTE (X-Offender @ Sep 26 2010, 07:53 PM) *
This. The moment Pato gets back, I want our attacking line to be Robinho-Ibra-Pato.

I just hope Dinho decides to leave next summer. That's the only hope we have for 1. getting rid of him and 2. signing someone good enough to be our trequartista behind Pato and Ibra.

I agree there, that we need someone better in order to drop the 4-3-3 completely. Problem is, who are we going to bring in? Pastore? Out of the question, we lost a great opportunity for VDV this summer. Not many other names come to mind when I'm thinking about a top class AM
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post Sep 26 2010, 08:58 PM
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QUOTE (CHU-LIP @ Sep 26 2010, 07:54 PM) *
I don't see Ronaldinho as an AM. Seedorf is capable of playing there, but we should play 4-3-3ish with Robinho, Zlatan and Pato. At least Robinho contributes in defending (tracks back) and moves a lot, so he gives us some balance. Seedorf I would use as alternative for Pirlo. I don't like playing both.

Boateng should play in midfield indeed.

4-3-3 though wastes Pato big time, especially without Dinho who's usually the one that slips him in when he's running in from the wing...

I believe Ronnie is more of an AM then he is a winger. I posted that vid above to show how he's more effective when he slips in behind the front 2, where as on the wing he's usually constricted to trying to play that cross or trying to constalty beat 2 players
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post Sep 26 2010, 09:03 PM
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QUOTE (han2503 @ Sep 26 2010, 09:58 PM) *
4-3-3 though wastes Pato big time

I agree, we should not play 4-3-3, Pato should not be a winger. I called it 4-3-3ish because I don't want a 4-3-3. I want this:
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edit: though, Gattuso instead of Flamini as it looks now... when I made this I was willing to give Flamini a chance, but it seems like Gattuso is grabbing his chance. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Just whoever is our best DM.

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post Sep 26 2010, 09:09 PM
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QUOTE (CHU-LIP @ Sep 26 2010, 08:03 PM) *
I agree, we should not play 4-3-3, Pato should not be a winger. I called it 4-3-3ish because I don't want a 4-3-3. I want this:
(IMG:http://this11.com/boards/1285188899562405.jpg)

That makes more sense, but still, I can't see anyone that can produce that killer ball in that line-up.

Maybe moving Pirlo would be an option, but Pirlo is someone who likes to spread play with his passes and control tempo rather then providing those little passes around the box that can split a defense wide open.

There you have Robinho and Pato who are both dribblers, who like to operate in wide spaces, Ibra is the only one who can create that little something extra, but I want him to be the one furthest to goal rather then trying to slip in his teammates
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post Sep 26 2010, 09:11 PM
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I don't see a problem in Zlatan being the one creating things since we got Pato as an awesome goalscoring striker. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/96.gif)
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post Sep 26 2010, 09:18 PM
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QUOTE (CHU-LIP @ Sep 26 2010, 08:11 PM) *
I don't see a problem in Zlatan being the one creating things since we got Pato as an awesome goalscoring striker. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/96.gif)

Imo we need both Zlatan and Dinho to hit at least 20 goals each in a season to win the league. Zlatan is made for goalscoring not trying to provide for others, imo he needs to be the players nearest to goal.
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post Sep 26 2010, 09:19 PM
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QUOTE (han2503 @ Sep 26 2010, 10:18 PM) *
Imo we need both Zlatan and Dinho to hit at least 20 goals each in a season to win the league. Zlatan is made for goalscoring not trying to provide for others, imo he needs to be the players nearest to goal.

Pato should be nearest the goal. We need both during the season, but if all 4 are fit, we don't necessary need both. If Pato is out, then Ibrahimovic should indeed be the one nearest the goal, and then we indeed need Ronaldinho.
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