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post Sep 25 2010, 06:48 PM
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True, that second chance was criminal from Flamini. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) Let's hope we don't concede in the last 3 minute of injury time.
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post Sep 25 2010, 06:50 PM
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a much better second half, we woke up and win a game, we even had some decent chances and a very well 3 points and very much needed! Nice one! Now, lets start the rush!
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post Sep 25 2010, 06:50 PM
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Finally! 3 points
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post Sep 25 2010, 06:52 PM
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Nice finish, but I would like to see more from this team. I wish we played wednesday instead of Tuesday.
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post Sep 25 2010, 06:52 PM
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YES !

ok no more 433 please 4312 from now on,we looked so much better when our attackers are actually close to each other and can link up properly.
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post Sep 25 2010, 06:56 PM
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QUOTE (elcordobez @ Sep 26 2010, 01:52 AM) *
YES !

ok no more 433 please 4312 from now on,we looked so much better when our attackers are actually close to each other and can link up properly.


I agree 4-3-3 is a terrible formation for Milan because we don't have the legs to move around that quickly anymore.
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post Sep 25 2010, 06:57 PM
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Jeez, just 109 replies to this match thread. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) What is the world (of Milanfan) coming to? Where art thou people? On the flipside, we won. A weak win, but 3 points nonetheless. Let's see if this continues.
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post Sep 25 2010, 07:00 PM
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QUOTE (acid911 @ Sep 26 2010, 03:57 AM) *
Jeez, just 109 replies to this match thread. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) What is the world (of Milanfan) coming to? Where art thou people? On the flipside, we won. A weak win, but 3 points nonetheless. Let's see if this continues.


If we change formation it might,at the end when Seedorf Ibra and Binho were actually doing the triangles it looked a lot better,sure Genoa were tired and bad but still better than the first half where we're relying on one killer through ball for Ibra to latch on to.

oh btw Robinho....NOT FIT?! What was all that about he ran for 90mins
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post Sep 25 2010, 07:00 PM
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Ok performace, but the win shouldn't hide the problems that we still saw in the team today. Some terrible marking in defence when it came to high balls, everyone in the first half was so relaxed and chilled out, you'd think they were winning by some 4-0 scoreline, all that they needed to complete the look was a mixed drink in one of their hands as they played (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

I want to see something much better against Ajax, simply because I can't see us winning with this type of performance and attitude.

As for Flamini, he played well, the first chance he had he should have really passed to Ibra, but I guess he wanted to come back in with a bang, the 2nd he should have done better, but for someone who's just getting back on track after injury you can't really fault him for not being so sharp, especially when it comes to scoring when that's not really one of his strong suites.

Pirlo reall impressed me in the 2nd half, after a terrible 1st. But Allegri should have really taken him off, he can't keep going like this, and now after the relentless schedule, while the others are all moslty on break, Pirlo has to play another 2 matches in a week for Italy.

I think all our regulars are just mentally and physically exhausted, Dinho, Ibra, Antonini, Nesta, Thiago, Pirlo, Seedorf, all just need a full week's rest but until the International break comes, I can't see it happening and for some of them they won't even get that because they have to play for their NTs
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post Sep 25 2010, 07:03 PM
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QUOTE (acid911 @ Sep 25 2010, 06:57 PM) *
Jeez, just 109 replies to this match thread. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) What is the world (of Milanfan) coming to? Where art thou people? On the flipside, we won. A weak win, but 3 points nonetheless. Let's see if this continues.

I think some didn't know the time of the game, probably thought it was the late kick-off (IMG:style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

QUOTE (elcordobez @ Sep 25 2010, 07:00 PM) *
If we change formation it might,at the end when Seedorf Ibra and Binho were actually doing the triangles it looked a lot better,sure Genoa were tired and bad but still better than the first half where we're relying on one killer through ball for Ibra to latch on to.

oh btw Robinho....NOT FIT?! What was all that about he ran for 90mins

I think it had more to do with match fitness rather then physical fitness in general. Also Robinho looked a 1000 times better when he was moved to the left.

I vote for a solid 4-3-1-2 against Ajax with Dinho in behind Robinho and Ibra. This imo is currently our best set-up
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post Sep 25 2010, 07:08 PM
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True, could be the timing, usually the match threads are bustling with members during a match. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) And yes, I agree with the couple of posts above. A win, but that doesn't hide the glaring cracks in the team. inter we are not. More work is needed in the coming weeks, and for the sake of us fans, let's hope Allegri and the squad is up for it.
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post Sep 25 2010, 07:15 PM
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QUOTE (acid911 @ Sep 25 2010, 07:08 PM) *
True, could be the timing, usually the match threads are bustling with members during a match. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) And yes, I agree with the couple of posts above. A win, but that doesn't hide the glaring cracks in the team. inter we are not. More work is needed in the coming weeks, and for the sake of us fans, let's hope Allegri and the squad is up for it.

The 3 pts will undoubtedly take off some of the pressure that was on the players and coach, but a lot more work needs to be done, the fact that we're mostly scoring through moments of brilliance by Ibra is just not encouraging at all. I'm happy that Ibra is doing so well, but it worries me that the team is just not creating enough good chances for the other attackers, and chances that can be called 'easy' instead of like the ones Ibra has been scoring
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post Sep 25 2010, 07:18 PM
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So, Milan managed to win, in anemic fashion and thanks to a even more dispassionate Genoa. Here are some comments and ratings:

1) Passing. Milan's passing is terrible at this moment. More then 50% of the attacks end up with an out or lost possesion. Yes, it can be fixed, Milan needs time to gel. But the effect is even more augmented with Milan's long passing which is inefficient (yes, I know, we scored this time from a long ball, but it was pure luck). We have to start play fluently and implement more possesion directed wise build-up.

2) Attacking. Milan still does not have a normal attacking sheme. Allegri needs to start deciding how his attacks will be created and how Milan will play. This is connected to the formation he implements: after a few tryouts, the 4-3-3 should be wether dropped, or players like Pirlo, Seedorf and Ronaldinh should be crossed off as first team players.

3) Motivation. A big problem which puts Milan in peril. Nowdays you can get the feeling Milan moves to a similar trap Inter got lost for years. Their mental strenghtening lasted almost a decade and was triggered almost accidentaly, with help of the Calciopoli mess. Milan could easily start falling in the same letargy - which in the end means years and years trophyless, numerous players in and out, numerous tacticall interventions and coaches, etc.

Ratings:

Abbiati - 7.5 - very good match by the Milan keeper, who did everything right.

Antonini - 7 - had some trouble with Palacios who managed to get past him a few times, but as the game went further he started to look more and more confortable. Still, what misses is some offensive skilles.

Thiago Silva - 7 - good working match. Only made slight positioning and blocking errors.

Nesta - 7 - no mistakes, very good match.

Abate - 7 - as good as it gets. Worked hard in the defensive part, also made some usefull runs.

Pirlo - 6.5 - indolent and nervous first half with numerous misplaced passings and lost balls. Only the lucky assist and another good build-up are worth mention.

Gattuso - 7.5 - probably Milan's best player, worked hard both in attack and defense. Had one good chance, few balls won and a great tackle.

Boateng - 6 - a bit nervous, but his strenght and will to fight give Milan a important addition.

Ronaldinho - 5.5 - tried to look with engagement this time but again only produced a dim performance. He should be dropped for the next match.

Robinho - 6.5 - worked more then Ronaldinho, got involved in more serious chances to score. As soon as Ronaldinho left, Robinho tuned in with Ibrahimovic and pulled off some extra stuff.

Ibrahimovic - 7 - very passive and bad first half, and a good second half that culminated with Milan's winning goal.

subs:

Flamini - 5.5 - involved in two great chances to finish Genoa off, made two wrong decisions. In the first oppotunity too much selfishness, in the second a clear goal missed.

Seedorf - 6.5 - replaced Ronaldinho and managed to force a faster and rational build-up. Solid performance.
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post Sep 25 2010, 07:21 PM
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4-3-3 just isnt working, it can be painfull to watch at times. Front 3 get isolated from each other and double teamed, ball goes back. Need to play with two up.

Plus points Robinho was good, needs more matches and time, but was mobile, interested and willing. Good to see Flamini back, Rino had a good game.

I thought Pirlo was a walking corpse, poor guy needs a rest.

I have a heart attack every time i see abate's name at right back, and none of our team at all can cross a ball its unbelievable!

Hoping for 4-3-1-2 against Ajax.
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post Sep 25 2010, 07:24 PM
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QUOTE (amancik @ Sep 25 2010, 06:56 PM) *
I agree 4-3-3 is a terrible formation for Milan because we don't have the legs to move around that quickly anymore.

Ibrahimovic is terrible on 433. Also, we don't have proper wingers with pace. Just Robinho. Pato is not a player for those positions and Ronaldinho is past his best.

4-1-3-2. 4-3-1-2. X-mas tree. Whatever, anything but 433.
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