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 Sep 18 2010, 06:44 PM
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Kaka's fangirl, and proud =]  Group: Helpers Posts: 2,334 Joined: 26-October 06 From: Vienna, AUSTRIA Member No.: 2,687  |
QUOTE (han2503 @ Sep 18 2010, 04:57 PM)  Atm Berlu represents the entire club, he pulls the strings, distancing yourself from Silvio means distancing yourself from the club as well. It wasn't fans, it was the Ultras, who imo aren't really fans but whatever, the real fans cheered Paolo on that day. The problem Paolo and fans had with the management was because they didn't take any action against the Ultras. They went along with it, when Paolo only did the things he did to cover B&G's @sses and out of respect for them Why arent ultras fans? I think paolo and the club at least think ultras are the fans.. since they are in the stadium. That day was really horrible. Imagine you spend ur whole life working for one firm, boss, and then he screws u over with ir retirement package.. Ul |
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Sep 18 2010, 06:51 PM
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Prima Squadra  Group: Moderators Posts: 39,655 Joined: 6-January 06 From: Malta Member No.: 1,109 |
QUOTE (agenth @ Sep 18 2010, 06:44 PM) Why arent ultras fans? I think paolo and the club at least think ultras are the fans.. since they are in the stadium. That day was really horrible. Imagine you spend ur whole life working for one firm, boss, and then he screws u over with ir retirement package.. Ul I'm not going to really get into it, because it will stir up another huge debate. but imo they're nothing but thugs looking for trouble, using the club to voice their misguided oppinions. B&G should have stood up for Paolo, simple, but they chose not to |
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Sep 18 2010, 08:36 PM
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Primavera Group: Moderators Posts: 23,206 Joined: 20-November 05 From: Athens, Hellas Member No.: 911 |
it's sad what he said... I can't believe Berlusconi treated him like that after all that he's done for Milan.
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Sep 18 2010, 09:01 PM
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Giovanissimi Regionali B Group: Full Members Posts: 1,309 Joined: 28-August 09 From: Chicago, IL, USA Member No.: 6,771 |
I'm pretty sure Leo saying he could go to Inter is just a professional way of keeping his options open. It'd be pretty foolish to burn a bridge before even getting another management job.
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Sep 18 2010, 10:52 PM
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Berretti Group: Helpers Posts: 13,937 Joined: 26-February 08 From: Always Around Member No.: 3,736 |
QUOTE (dst @ Sep 19 2010, 12:36 AM) it's sad what he said... I can't believe Berlusconi treated him like that after all that he's done for Milan. True. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) And we don't even know what Mr. B said to him behind closed doors (hopefully Leo writes a book a few years down the road). Even the commentator in today's match was saying that if Berlusconi had his way he would play 5 attacking players. Always goes for glory that showoff. I don't want to say too many negative things of Berlusconi, but sometimes keeping one's feet on the ground works wonders, particularly in football. This isn't the age of Gladiators. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/angry.gif) Even if we had bought another 2-3 world class players this season, they still would have taken time to gel. Team chemistry takes time, always has. If he was so concerned with the results, then maybe he should have stopped Galliani from signing stupid extensions to our aging midfield, and invested in rebuilding a season or two back. Not to mention bringing in clowns like Mancini (sorry, about that, I rather like that guy, but he has no place in a top tier club like Milan or even inter). Players like these are best suited to Europe League level teams. I am sure Leo isn't a saint, he made more than a few mistakes, but really, as the owner of the club Mr. B should have known better. Not just from the point of view of the management, but from past experience as well. |
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Sep 19 2010, 09:38 AM
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Dida per sempre Group: Full Members Posts: 4,198 Joined: 25-February 07 From: St. Francis Member No.: 3,563 |
Response from Galliani:
QUOTE (Football Italia) Galliani: 'I won't forgive Leo...' Sunday 19 September, 2010 Adriano Galliani hit back at Leonardo’s claims President Silvio Berlusconi is ‘narcissistic’ and “will not forgive him if he joins Inter.” The former Milan Coach laid into the club and above all President Berlusconi in an interview with the Gazzetta dello Sport on Saturday. “I have been working with Berlusconi for over 30 years and he accepts any kind of exchange of ideas with me,” insisted Vice-President Galliani. “Over three decades we have debated, talked and explained. In 30 years, first working in television and then football, I’ve never heard him say: ‘We’ll do it that way because I said so.’ “I called Leonardo after reading that interview. We have worked together for 13 years and are great friends.” Although he can debate the issue of Berlusconi’s management style, Galliani put his foot down on one issue. “In that interview, Leonardo said ‘never say never’ and ‘if I go to Inter, I hope Galliani can forgive me.’ “I told him absolutely not! Are we ruling out Leonardo’s future at Inter? No, but we are ruling out my forgiveness! “Of course I’m joking; let’s not get dramatic about things.” In regards to the last sentence, I truly doubt that's the case. Just my P's and Q's. |
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Sep 19 2010, 09:48 AM
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Allievi Nazionali Group: Helpers Posts: 8,627 Joined: 19-April 06 Member No.: 1,660 |
nah he won't go. If gets a job it'll be in the EPL. He wants full control of the team and in Italy it won't be any different with morrati.
I can see him coaching west ham or something along those lines. |
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Sep 19 2010, 11:25 AM
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Primavera Group: Helpers Posts: 18,058 Joined: 9-February 06 Member No.: 1,265 |
QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Sep 18 2010, 09:14 PM) Such a successful coach (IMG:style_emoticons/default/innocent.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) |
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Sep 19 2010, 07:15 PM
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Prima Squadra Group: Helpers Posts: 30,194 Joined: 11-March 07 From: Birmingham, England Member No.: 3,660 |
I wouldn't blame Leo for going.
The management gave him absoloutely no support all season long and basically just criticised him, then despite having a good season they get rid of him. Everyone wants 'revenge' on people that wrong them, so I wouldn't blame him for going to Inter at all. |
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Sep 19 2010, 07:47 PM
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Primavera Group: Moderators Posts: 18,833 Joined: 5-April 06 From: Croatia, Zagreb Member No.: 1,564 |
Milan and Berlusconi saved his career, he should remember.
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Sep 19 2010, 07:57 PM
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Esordienti A 95 Group: Full Members Posts: 976 Joined: 14-March 10 From: Brasil/Chile Member No.: 7,300 |
13 years of work seem more than enough compensation.
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Sep 19 2010, 08:16 PM
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Smoking Bianco Group: Helpers Posts: 14,039 Joined: 15-August 05 From: KWT Member No.: 191 |
QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Sep 19 2010, 09:47 PM) Milan and Berlusconi saved his career, he should remember. Maybe the spotlight got the best of him (IMG:style_emoticons/default/innocent.gif) |
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Sep 19 2010, 08:40 PM
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Prima Squadra Group: Moderators Posts: 39,655 Joined: 6-January 06 From: Malta Member No.: 1,109 |
QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Sep 19 2010, 08:16 PM) Maybe the spotlight got the best of him (IMG:style_emoticons/default/innocent.gif) Oh come on!!! Leo was never treated fairly as a coach. Allegri suddenly gets appointed and Silvio decides to open his wallet... Imo, Silvio never really wanted Leo as coach, Galliani did. For whatever reason Silvio relented, but made Leo's life as Milan coach a living hell along the way |
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Sep 19 2010, 09:52 PM
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Smoking Bianco Group: Helpers Posts: 14,039 Joined: 15-August 05 From: KWT Member No.: 191 |
QUOTE (han2503 @ Sep 19 2010, 10:40 PM) Oh come on!!! Leo was never treated fairly as a coach. Allegri suddenly gets appointed and Silvio decides to open his wallet... Imo, Silvio never really wanted Leo as coach, Galliani did. For whatever reason Silvio relented, but made Leo's life as Milan coach a living hell along the way With all due respect .. how did you come to that assessment of the situation? |
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Sep 19 2010, 10:21 PM
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Primavera Group: Moderators Posts: 18,833 Joined: 5-April 06 From: Croatia, Zagreb Member No.: 1,564 |
QUOTE (han2503 @ Sep 19 2010, 09:40 PM) Oh come on!!! Leo was never treated fairly as a coach. Allegri suddenly gets appointed and Silvio decides to open his wallet... Imo, Silvio never really wanted Leo as coach, Galliani did. For whatever reason Silvio relented, but made Leo's life as Milan coach a living hell along the way Or maybe Silvo wanted a real coach not an amateur rookie. Anyway, I don't buy the poor little Leonardo story, he was adored by Berlusconi as a player, coaches like Zaccheroni were forced to play him even if he underperformed and finally, like Ibrahim Ba he was resigned by Milan on pure simpaty, ending his career with a fine paycheck. Fazit - Milan is better without him. He allways should have stayed a scout. |
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