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post Sep 16 2010, 06:25 PM
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QUOTE (CHU-LIP @ Sep 16 2010, 06:21 PM) *
I was very curious to read the answer. Because I could not think of it myself. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)


If I was goning to answer that I would answer based on what my religion/nationality/culture/education says and not everyone would accept that. I don't want trouble that's why I don't want to answer.

QUOTE (CHU-LIP @ Sep 16 2010, 06:21 PM) *
Race, yes, race is about your origin, that's true. Kinda different from nationality I'd say.


Yeah, in my language is only one term about that (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

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post Sep 16 2010, 06:32 PM
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Off-topic guys

Regarding the interview with Sacchi....Clearly Ibra was very upset when he finally got the chance to talk straight to Sacchi he told him what he have saved up for a couple of years now.
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post Sep 16 2010, 06:38 PM
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It's good to see Zlatan scoring twice against Auxerre. Pato already was on a roll with scoring goals. Unfortunality Pato is out, so we rely on Zlatan goalscoring now, hence why it's good he scored twice yesterday. Ronaldinho gave two assists kinda (first one was Boateng but Ronaldinho did the nice long ball), so Ronaldinho and Zlatan seem to match. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) That's nice. With Robinho instead of Pato, Zlatan can be the CF lots of the times during the match. Normally we were screwed without Pato, now there's still hope.
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post Sep 16 2010, 06:40 PM
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QUOTE (d'Arc.LP @ Sep 16 2010, 06:25 PM) *
If I was goning to answer that I would answer based on what my religion/nationality/culture/education says and not everyone would accept that. I don't want trouble that's why I don't want to answer.

Thanks for that one (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

QUOTE (Woorya @ Sep 16 2010, 06:32 PM) *
Off-topic guys

Regarding the interview with Sacchi....Clearly Ibra was very upset when he finally got the chance to talk straight to Sacchi he told him what he have saved up for a couple of years now.

Hey, nice to have you on the forum, and I tend to agree with that since he was mentioning his time in Barca as well, so maybe Sacchi criticised him then as well... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

As for the nationality debate, we've had it close to a million times here, no one ever comes to a middle ground on it. I personally agree with d'Arc. Sure you can live in a country all your life but no one can deny who they really are, their heritage, their family, I am Maltese, if I lived in for example England all my life, I'd still call myself Maltese. A lot of people in the past used to imigrate from Malta to Australia. They still call themselves Maltese and so do their children who were born and raised in Australia.

Ibra might have lived all his life in Sweden, but he's half Croatian, half Bosnian imo, no matter which NT he chose to play for
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post Sep 16 2010, 06:43 PM
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QUOTE (han2503 @ Sep 16 2010, 06:40 PM) *
Ibra might have lived all his life in Sweden, but he's half Croatian, half Bosnian imo, no matter which NT he chose to play for

Do you consider Zlatan Swedish and someone who has every right to choose and play for Sweden?
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post Sep 16 2010, 06:52 PM
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QUOTE (d'Arc.LP @ Sep 16 2010, 07:07 AM) *
Ibrahimovic is one of my favorite players but I must say that these years he's acting like a jerk.

Corrected.
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post Sep 16 2010, 06:58 PM
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QUOTE (CHU-LIP @ Sep 16 2010, 06:43 PM) *
Do you consider Zlatan Swedish and someone who has every right to choose and play for Sweden?

He has every right to choose, we're not living in medievil times here. Having said that, I still consider him to be half Bosnian, half Croation, because that is where his roots lie, and as I said, you can't deny your heritage, no matter how much you run from it.

I have Yugoslavian roots in my family, in fact we still carry the surname, it's from before World War 1, Sailors used to come in and get married to Maltese women, that's part of my heritage, even though I call myself Maltese, I still don't deny that part of me either.
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QUOTE (han2503 @ Sep 16 2010, 07:40 PM) *
Thanks for that one (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)


Hey, nice to have you on the forum, and I tend to agree with that since he was mentioning his time in Barca as well, so maybe Sacchi criticised him then as well... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)


Yes he was advising barcelona not to buy zlatan and when Milan bought Zlatan he said it was a big mistake. He's been giving Zlatan a lot of undeserved bitchin...it is obvious Sacchi isn't very found of zlatan.
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post Sep 16 2010, 08:45 PM
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See this is what I love about Canada. People can consider themselves Chinese and Canadian at the same time. Just Like I consider myself Canadiene é persian.



Europe still gotta long way to go (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)

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post Sep 16 2010, 08:55 PM
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QUOTE (Bluesummers @ Sep 16 2010, 09:45 PM) *
See this is what I love about Canada. People can consider themselves Chinese and Canadian at the same time. Just Like I consider myself Canadiene é persian.



Europe still gotta long way to go (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)



Yeah, I'm sure that only applies to Canada... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
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post Sep 16 2010, 09:08 PM
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Anyway, Ibrahimović may be a Swede, German, American or Haitian but what initially was meant is that he has a bosnian mentality rather then a swedish. I think we could agree on that.
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post Sep 16 2010, 09:24 PM
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QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Sep 16 2010, 09:08 PM) *
Anyway, Ibrahimović may be a Swede, German, American or Haitian but what initially was meant is that he has a bosnian mentality rather then a swedish. I think we could agree on that.

Yep he's got that brooding thing down to a T
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post Sep 16 2010, 09:46 PM
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QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Sep 16 2010, 08:08 PM) *
Anyway, Ibrahimović may be a Swede, German, American or Haitian but what initially was meant is that he has a bosnian mentality rather then a swedish. I think we could agree on that.


Does this mean that Bosnian people are jerks/idiots/not civilised or something like that ?
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post Sep 16 2010, 09:51 PM
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QUOTE (d'Arc.LP @ Sep 16 2010, 10:46 PM) *
Does this mean that Bosnian people are jerks/idiots/not civilised or something like that ?

No. Just a different mentality. They are in general considered more open people who react with passion and sometimes affection first.
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QUOTE (d'Arc.LP @ Sep 16 2010, 10:46 PM) *
Does this mean that Bosnian people are jerks/idiots/not civilised or something like that ?


Well, as someone who is living next to the Swedes, I can tell you that what Filippo said is perfectly true.
Zlatan has a "take-no-sh*t" mentality that's very common among the immigrant population of his 'native' city, Malmö, and there's nothing racist in pointing that out.
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