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post Jun 26 2009, 09:09 AM
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And it's looking more and more likely that we shall get only Brazillians. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)
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post Jun 26 2009, 09:21 AM
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QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Jun 26 2009, 02:09 AM) *
And it's looking more and more likely that we shall get only Brazillians. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

yeah bro I feel your pain. I think its very stupid. We should be going for an italian core, which would come cheap and in the end would benefit us much more than a foreign core.

But what can you do, next is gattuso.
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post Jun 26 2009, 09:26 AM
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I still don't understand why they would sell Pirlo.

It's not like we're going to get a huge sum for him and the fact that he gets as much as Seedorf, Ambro and Rino is just as baffling. Why is he the one considered surplus and they're actually going to give Ambro a bigger wage

Maybe I'm the stupid one here but surely everyone can see that our management have clearly lost all sense of sanity. And if Pirlo gets sold, I feel that it will be the last straw that will finally send Milan back to were Berlu found it.

It's just a stupid move all around
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post Jun 26 2009, 09:30 AM
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I don't think we're going to spend 20m on a defender. For that money we could get Santacroce so I don't know why we are looking elsewhere... I supported us buying from Brazil because we can buy cheaper but 20m is a European price.

That guy Andre Santos looks good but his price must have gone up considerably now.

Melo is very good but I can't see us buying him... unless Pirlo goes. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif)
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post Jun 26 2009, 09:31 AM
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QUOTE (han2503 @ Jun 26 2009, 02:26 AM) *
I still don't understand why they would sell Pirlo.

It's not like we're going to get a huge sum for him and the fact that he gets as much as Seedorf, Ambro and Rino is just as baffling. Why is he the one considered surplus and they're actually going to give Ambro a bigger wage

Maybe I'm the stupid one here but surely everyone can see that our management have clearly lost all sense of sanity. And if Pirlo gets sold, I feel that it will be the last straw that will finally send Milan back to were Berlu found it.

It's just a stupid move all around

He gets 6.5 million a season. He has several huge money bonuses that put him ahead the likes of seedorf and co. The wage is the same yes but I doubt the money he gets from the club overall is the same as other players.


Finally he is 30 years old and has been declining over the last few years. Pirlo simply just isn't the player he once was. Right now we can get 25 million pounds for him so they are thinking this may be a good chance at making some serious cash.


or something like this. I'm not a 100% sure but its just my hypothesis.

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post Jun 26 2009, 09:34 AM
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Heres a little info on melo:


Full name Felipe Melo de Carvalho
Date of birth June 26, 1983 (age 26)
Place of birth Volta Redonda, Brazil
Height 1.83 m (6 ft 0 in)
Playing position Defensive midfielder

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post Jun 26 2009, 09:37 AM
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OFFICIAL: Milan Sign Striker Gianmarco Zigoni From Treviso

Milan have beaten off competition from a number of Serie A rivals to sign 18-year-old striker Gianmarco Zigoni from Lega Pro club Treviso for €1.2million, according to Sky Sport Italia.

The striker had made a huge impression at youth level and was brought into the first team by the Trevigiani last term, netting two goals in 18 appearances in Serie B.

However, Treviso suffered relegation to Lega Pro and are in desperate need of funds ahead of next season.

The club risked being sued by Zigoni for unpaid bonus money and could have lost the player on a free transfer, so they swiftly accepted Milan’s offer of €1.2m.

Zigoni has scored more than 100 goals at Primavera level for Treviso and netted on his Serie B debut against Ancona last January.

He is the son of Gianfranco Zigoni, who won two Serie A titles with Juventus in the 1960s.


Now we know what Braida was doing lol.. So now how about signing some players we can actually use (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

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post Jun 26 2009, 09:40 AM
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QUOTE (Bluesummers @ Jun 26 2009, 08:31 AM) *
He gets 6.5 million a season. He has several huge money bonuses that put him ahead the likes of seedorf and co. The wage is the same yes but I doubt the money he gets from the club overall is the same as other players.


Finally he is 30 years old and has been declining over the last few years. Pirlo simply just isn't the player he once was. Right now we can get 25 million pounds for him so they are thinking this may be a good chance at making some serious cash.

He gets the same exact wage as Seedorf, Ambro, Dida, Kaladze and Rino. I'm sure of it. Yes Pirlo is not the same player he was back in 03, but no one is. We've got a team full of these guys who have been declining, with your logic we might as well sell the entire team, Pato being the only exception.

But the fact is, that out of all these declining players Pirlo is the youngest (29 btw (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) ), most talented, influential for our team and the true last real star we have on the team.

He's not going to generate a big transfer fee. So what would be the point of selling him? Getting rid of the heartbeat of this team. If we want to get the wages down then why not sell the real burden of this team? Dida, Ambro, Seedorf, Kaladze, etc. But for some reason they're seeing Pirlo as surplus. When we have all these freeloaders getting sky high wages off the club while either sitting on the treatment table or playing continuosly like cr@p

Surely the management have finally lost it if they're seeing Pirlo as the burden but not seeing all the others that are really doing the damage to this team.

And if we sell Pirlo do you really think we're going to go out and buy someone who can realistically replace him and do what he can? Do you think they'll go out and get a Fabregas, Xavi or Iniesta? No they won't, they'll say we're good as we are, that we have Seedorf, Ambrosini, Gattuso and Flamini for the midfield and we're fine as we are. You can even forget about them trying for someone like Melo or Hernanes because both aree too expensive.
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post Jun 26 2009, 09:40 AM
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What do we need this kid for, we already have Paloschi why didn't we bring him back!!? Anyway, he's welcomed I hope he'll have a great rossonero future!
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post Jun 26 2009, 09:42 AM
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QUOTE (Bluesummers @ Jun 26 2009, 08:37 AM) *
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Now we know what Braida was doing lol.. So now how about signing some players we can actually use (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

This is ridiculous, we're turning Serie A upside down for cheap young players, that most of them already belonged to us.

It's just baffling what we've turned into. This after getting a massive transfer fee for our best player.
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post Jun 26 2009, 09:46 AM
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QUOTE (han2503 @ Jun 26 2009, 02:40 AM) *
He gets the same exact wage as Seedorf, Ambro, Dida, Kaladze and Rino. I'm sure of it. Yes Pirlo is not the same player he was back in 03, but no one is. We've got a team full of these guys who have been declining, with your logic we might as well sell the entire team, Pato being the only exception.

But the fact is, that out of all these declining players Pirlo is the youngest (29 btw (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) ), most talented, influential for our team and the true last real star we have on the team.

He's not going to generate a big transfer fee. So what would be the point of selling him? Getting rid of the heartbeat of this team. If we want to get the wages down then why not sell the real burden of this team? Dida, Ambro, Seedorf, Kaladze, etc. But for some reason they're seeing Pirlo as surplus. When we have all these freeloaders getting sky high wages off the club while either sitting on the treatment table or playing continuosly like cr@p

Surely the management have finally lost it if they're seeing Pirlo as the burden but not seeing all the others that are really doing the damage to this team.

And if we sell Pirlo do you really think we're going to go out and buy someone who can realistically replace him and do what he can? Do you think they'll go out and get a Fabregas, Xavi or Iniesta? No they won't, they'll say we're good as we are, that we have Seedorf, Ambrosini, Gattuso and Flamini for the midfield and we're fine as we are. You can even forget about them trying for someone like Melo or Hernanes because both aree too expensive.


Your right. I agree with you entirely. But heres the thing:


He is : May 19, 1979 (age 30)

He also commands a decent transfer fee, I mean 25 million pounds isn't all that much but it is much higher than the likes of kaladze and seedorf and co.


We can sell those players at max 10 million if were super lucky and galliani bends over twice a week for the rest of the season for the buyer.

They are just selling the big money makers, kaka pirlo gattuso pato you know and then replacing them with 2 or 3x the amount of players in order to develop a better core.

We signed 4 players and sold 2 so far. 2 of those players are absoloutly useless but thats not the point. They are trying to develop the team overall with as many good signings as possible while reducing the wage bill.


I can 100% guarantee if fergi bids 20+ for gattuso he is gone.
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QUOTE (Bluesummers @ Jun 26 2009, 08:46 AM) *
Your right. I agree with you entirely. But heres the thing:


He is : May 19, 1979 (age 30)

He also commands a decent transfer fee, I mean 25 million pounds isn't all that much but it is much higher than the likes of kaladze and seedorf and co.


We can sell those players at max 10 million if were super lucky and galliani bends over twice a week for the rest of the season for the buyer.

They are just selling the big money makers, kaka pirlo gattuso pato you know and then replacing them with 2 or 3x the amount of players in order to develop a better core.

We signed 4 players and sold 2 so far. 2 of those players are absoloutly useless but thats not the point. They are trying to develop the team overall with as many good signings as possible while reducing the wage bill.


I can 100% guarantee if fergi bids 20+ for gattuso he is gone.

hmm must have forgot that he turned 30 in may, but still concidering that he just turned 30 and the others in our midfield aside from Flamini are all 32 going into 33, Pirlo is a baby (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

25m is very small and imo, not worth it if they're not going to be reinvested into the team. Because that is what is ultimately going to happen. Getting rid of Seedorf, Dida, Kaladze, is the answer because by getting rid of them that's Pirlo's transfer fee right there in one year as it has come off the wage bill. By selling the big money makers our team is going to be full of old, useless players.

And don't kid youself, the transfers they're making are beyond ridiculous, they're losing money over our own players, that's what they're doing with this co-ownership business. Oh so they brough back Abate? He's not good enough to play for us, that money wasted over a player we already owned previously, Yoann was sold for a ridiculous ammount because some genius decided to put a buyout clause in the lone deal. It's just ridiculous what this management has turned into.

Yes they're reducing the wage bil, but that's obviously going to happen if you're getting rid of your world class players and replacing them with mediocre ones. And that is what our management are doing...
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QUOTE (han2503 @ Jun 26 2009, 02:54 AM) *
hmm must have forgot that he turned 30 in may, but still concidering that he just turned 30 and the others in our midfield aside from Flamini are all 32 going into 33, Pirlo is a baby (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

25m is very small and imo, not worth it if they're not going to be reinvested into the team. Because that is what is ultimately going to happen. Getting rid of Seedorf, Dida, Kaladze, is the answer because by getting rid of them that's Pirlo's transfer fee right there in one year as it has come off the wage bill. By selling the big money makers our team is going to be full of old, useless players.

And don't kid youself, the transfers they're making are beyond ridiculous, they're losing money over our own players, that's what they're doing with this co-ownership business. Oh so they brough back Abate? He's not good enough to play for us, that money wasted over a player we already owned previously, Yoann was sold for a ridiculous ammount because some genius decided to put a buyout clause in the lone deal. It's just ridiculous what this management has turned into.

Yes they're reducing the wage bil, but that's obviously going to happen if you're getting rid of your world class players and replacing them with mediocre ones. And that is what our management are doing...

I agree with you to the utmost point. I'm just saying what i think they are doing. I think Berlu is f*cking retarted but hey what can you do.
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QUOTE (Bluesummers @ Jun 26 2009, 08:56 AM) *
I agree with you to the utmost point. I'm just saying what i think they are doing. I think Berlu is f*cking retarted but hey what can you do.

Agreed. But seriously this new "strategy" they're implementing is beyond stupid.

They're literally dismatnling the team and we'll barely be mid table quality by the end of this. Dzeko will not be enough. I can't wait to see Galliani's face once we start getting humiliated week in week out in the league.

I really don't want to imagine what will happen when we face Inter andthe teams in the CL, at this rate we won't even make it out of the group stage with this team.
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QUOTE (han2503 @ Jun 26 2009, 03:01 AM) *
Agreed. But seriously this new "strategy" they're implementing is beyond stupid.

They're literally dismatnling the team and we'll barely be mid table quality by the end of this. Dzeko will not be enough. I can't wait to see Galliani's face once we start getting humiliated week in week out in the league.

I really don't want to imagine what will happen when we face Inter andthe teams in the CL, at this rate we won't even make it out of the group stage with this team.

Three things could potentially happen. Leo will be sacked or Berlu will sell the club or berlu will dig in his pockets and cover the losses.


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Lets look at this quote:

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"Pirlo is not for sale, but that could change depending on the size of an offer," the chief told Sky Sport Italia.



I think we can replace pirlo with this instead and I think this would be as close as it gets to what our directors are thinking:

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"Our players are not for sale, but that could change depending on the size of the offer(s)," the chief told Sky Sport Italia.


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