I'd still want a knowledgeable football fan acknowledge that I had a good team as opposed to I threw money to get a cup.

It's why Barca's success was so vindicated. Why the Barca of Ronaldinho is universally lauded, and the same for Pep.

For some reason Juventus is the most hated club in Italy? Why? Maybe because of their number of titles?
Same for Madrid in Spain.
Same for Benfica here in Portugal. Everybody hates them and want them to lose.

The biggest sport clubs are the most hated. Real Madrid, Manchester United, New York Yankees, Los Angeles Lakers, Detroit Red Wings...

Many people love those clubs. But many people can't stand them too.
Why? Because they're the best and with more titles in History.


Yes. Because wasting 38M/euros for a right-back and 150M/euros overall last Summer is not "throwing money"...

Seems to me that our management couldn't wait to get rid of Ricky, just goes to prove how appreciated he really was...

montreal canadiens = 24 titles
detroit = 11, 12 if they win on friday

This post has been edited by Habitant: Jun 11 2009, 07:12 PM

Being hated is something every club strives for in my opinion (not literally, it's not like an aim or anything). Nobody hates small time clubs because nobody cares about them. I bet it's no coincidence that the likes of United and Madrid are amongst the most hated teams in the World (and also the most supported).

This post has been edited by kurtsimonw: Jun 11 2009, 08:35 PM

Thats because Detroit are more succesful recently. No offense, but Canadian teams have been rather irrelevant of late, even when they make the finals they just fail badly. Nobody hates them, they merely nothing them. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

This post has been edited by kurtsimonw: Jun 11 2009, 08:37 PM

k well canadian teams and the montreal canadiens are two different things.

and well if they can make the finals i'd say they're somewhat relevant.

btw canadian billionaire jim balsillie (or as some like to call him baldsilly (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) ) is probably get his hands on phonenix and move em to hamilton.

This post has been edited by Habitant: Jun 12 2009, 12:49 AM

Hmm...I see your point.

But when the spine of your team consists of Xavi, Iniesta, Puyol, Messi,Valdes...blokes who've been playing there forever it's a little different isn't it?

It's obvious Madrid are not doing the same thing which is filling in holes. They're buying a whole new team. They'll keep Raul and Iker for sentiment's sake (the latter for his skills as well) and the rest might have to abandon ship.

It's the difference between building a team and buying one.

At the end of the day its the silver wear that counts. whether or not they build or buy a team is irrelevant.

Of course best players and trophies. but it's better if those best players are my team's former youth players. Barca didn't buy Messi for £80m but he's as good as CR and Kaka. there are also Iniesta, Xavi, Puyol, etc. that's IMO the best way a team can be managed. Madrid are my favorite Spanish team but I can't help but admire Barca's philosophy (regardless of its success).


The most successful clubs or the winner clubs at the time? because right now Juve cannot hold a candle to Inter in that respect, am I right? I mean why would people hate Juve when it's Inter that's winning the title year in, year out?



Interesting point (IMG:http://www.milanfan.com/forums/style_images/bullet/folder_post_icons/icon3.gif)

I could not disagree more.

Think about it from a real madrid perspecitive. Their arrogance is at the level where they think they should be winning the treble every season. So for them its the silver wear that counts more than having ronaldo in their team. They demand the best players in order to win everything. Thats why I said its irrelevant. They don't have the patience to nurture a player like Pato or Kaka through time. They want wins right now.


For us its a little bit different and I can understand why you and many others would disagree with that.

Higuain, Marcelo, Gago and Ramos, just to name a few.

if theres one player id like from Madrid is Sneijder , we could sign him on the cheap as they will need to sell some of there top players

Do you see those players in madrid for more than 5 years? I dont. Unless they are extraordinary, Madrid will sell them.

This post has been edited by Bluesummers: Jun 13 2009, 05:14 AM