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post Jun 7 2009, 10:04 PM
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QUOTE (Minami @ Jun 7 2009, 02:53 PM) *
he has said it every time there were talks about a transfer, that he wants to stay in milan. and so it is this time... perhabs i'm too optimistic about it but the last thing kaka said was, that he wants to stay at milan and that he won't talk about his future yet.
i hope that we will see the finial dicision tomorrow night, because i really want to know what kaka says now.
i really hope that he'll stay!

Its alot more difficult than that. Right now its not even about whether or not he likes madrid or not. Its about Milan becoming competitive again. Its about milan rebuilding again.


Silvio is forcing him out the club in order to revive the club or try to revive to club. Someone must be sacrificed because right now we have 60 million euros of debt. Now Silvio will spend another 70 million or approx around that amount. If he doesn't sell Kaka, we will be in 130 million euro debt. That is dangerous for an italian club because our revenue is so poor compared to other clubs that debt is not something we can afford to have like liverpool or manchester.


Furthermore, he spent 8 million on kaka and will see a huge return on his investment. He spent 21 million on Ronaldinho and right now he can't even sell him for half of that. That is why he is keen on keeping Ronaldinho and having him improve next season and selling him after that as he slowly rebuilds our squad with younger players.

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post Jun 7 2009, 10:08 PM
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So we are being linked with all these superstar players, but I doubt any of them will arrive. At most we might sign Adebayor but that is because he is 25.


Right now we will buy young players. We'll buy young brazillians/urguayans/italians/french etc. So those who are hoping for fabregas and co. I doubt they will arrive.


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post Jun 7 2009, 10:10 PM
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QUOTE (Bluesummers @ Jun 7 2009, 11:04 PM) *
Its alot more difficult than that. Right now its not even about whether or not he likes madrid or not. Its about Milan becoming competitive again. Its about milan rebuilding again.


Silvio is forcing him out the club in order to revive the club or try to revive to club. Someone must be sacrificed because right now we have 60 million euros of debt. Now Silvio will spend another 70 million or approx around that amount. If he doesn't sell Kaka, we will be in 130 million euro debt. That is dangerous for an italian club because our revenue is so poor compared to other clubs that debt is not something we can afford to have like liverpool or manchester.


Furthermore, he spent 8 million on kaka and will see a huge return on his investment. He spent 21 million on Ronaldinho and right now he can't even sell him for half of that. That is why he is keen on keeping Ronaldinho and having him improve next season and selling him after that as he slowly rebuilds our squad with younger players.



I see your point...

Let's see what he says tomorrow. I didn't know that Milan is in so much dept.... I thougth someone posted that it's one of the clubs that don't have any dept.... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)
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post Jun 7 2009, 10:27 PM
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QUOTE (Minami @ Jun 7 2009, 03:10 PM) *
I see your point...

Let's see what he says tomorrow. I didn't know that Milan is in so much dept.... I thougth someone posted that it's one of the clubs that don't have any dept.... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

We don't have that big of a debt but look at how many players we signed last season:


Viudez
Cardaccio
Ronaldinho
Zambrotta
Abbiati
Antonini
Thiago Silva
Flamini
Beckham
Borriello
Shevchenko
Senderos



Ronaldinho and zambrotta cost us 30 million together. Abbiati 3 million. Thiago silva 6 million. Borriello 9 million. Antonini 2 million. Viudez/cardaccio 5 millino.


That right there alone is 55 million. Plus sheva earned a wage of 75k and didn't do anything. Beckham earned a huge wage, flamini earned a huge wage. Wages we usually pay when we are in champions league and with the revenue we recieve from it, we could afford to pay these wages but we were in uefa cup and it really hurt us so silvio paid out of his own pocket.


Our income was 1/3 of what it was when we were in champions league. We didn't sell any of our best players so in order for us to afford all this and keep our debt reasonable would be to sign Ronaldinho, beckham and hold a big number of freindlies and use silvio's cheque book.


So you see, last year silvio did alot for the club when it counted and right now he is selling our most valued player for the betterment of the club. If pirlo was worth 65 million, he would have sold him instead.


He does care for the club, however personally I just wish he would sell it to someone who could afford to splash money every season.

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post Jun 7 2009, 10:30 PM
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QUOTE (Bluesummers @ Jun 7 2009, 11:27 PM) *
We don't have that big of a debt but look at how many players we signed last season:


Viudez
Cardaccio
Ronaldinho
Zambrotta
Abbiati
Antonini
Thiago Silva
Flamini
Beckham
Borriello
Shevchenko
Senderos



Ronaldinho and zambrotta cost us 30 million together. Abbiati 3 million. Thiago silva 6 million. Borriello 9 million. Antonini 2 million. Viudez/cardaccio 5 millino.


That right there alone is 55 million. Plus sheva earned a wage of 75k and didn't do anything. Beckham earned a huge wage, flamini earned a huge wage. Wages we usually pay when we are in champions league and with the revenue we recieve from it, we could afford to pay these wages but we were in uefa cup and it really hurt us so silvio paid out of his own pocket.


Our income was 1/3 of what it was when we were in champions league. We didn't sell any of our best players so in order for us to afford all this and keep our debt reasonable would be to sign Ronaldinho, beckham and hold a big number of freindlies and use silvio's cheque book.


So you see, last year silvio did alot for the club when it counted and right now he is selling our most valued player for the betterment of the club. If pirlo was worth 65 million, he would have sold him instead.


yeah I got it ... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)


thanks (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)


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post Jun 7 2009, 11:20 PM
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My questions are:

1. Does Serie A as a struture and symbol, represent something for the Italian government and to the Italian people or not?

2. What are the powers that a Prime Minister in Italy has?

3. Is Berlusconi the Prime Minister of Italy or not?

4. Can Berlusconi do something about ALL those things that he always keeps complaining about (taxes, organization of serie A)?

5. Why does he keeps saying that the deal is not done, if everybody knows that after a situation like the one we had with Manchester City ... nobody would want to go throughout that all over .......?

To me it looks like Silvio wants to sell Kaka. In the Manchester City saga ... Kaka didn't wanted to go to that team but now is a totally different story. Silvio wants the money and Kaka likes Real Madrid.

At the end of the day Serie A is turning out to be a second category league. Teams from England and Spain see Italy teams as a place to go to shop ... they even act bullishly against our teams .... not respect at all.
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post Jun 8 2009, 06:57 AM
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If Kaka stays, then that's wonderful. However, if this whole mess then rears its ugly head AGAIN several months from now, I will be the first to buy his plane ticket.

QUOTE (Channel 4)
Berlusconi postpones Kaka talks
Sunday 7 June, 2009
Milan patron Silvio Berlusconi has postponed the showdown with Kaka to Monday night. “Nothing has been decided.”

You think? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/innocent.gif)
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post Jun 8 2009, 07:48 AM
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QUOTE (MizNelson @ Jun 7 2009, 11:57 PM) *
If Kaka stays, then that's wonderful. However, if this whole mess then rears its ugly head AGAIN several months from now, I will be the first to buy his plane ticket.


You think? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/innocent.gif)

I'm sure he's leaving. Ever since January, its been coming.


I'm positive the mancity stunt was pulled for so many reasons. First of all it made ricky available to other clubs. Second the rash anger of fans was released in January and at that time it came as a major shock. Right now its almost expected and the reaction from fans is mostly sadness and not rage, which is what berlu wants.

Thirdly i'm sure carlo was fired 2-3 months ago when we had lost in the Uefa cup. So kaka's sale would be used to issue Leo's era a fresh and powerful start.



If i'm wrong and he stays then its truly his decision and he will retire at this club.

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post Jun 8 2009, 09:00 AM
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Check out the retarded video of the day space on the official website of the best club in the world, and prepare your goodbyes for N22.
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QUOTE (HasanHasanly @ Jun 8 2009, 02:00 AM) *
Check out the retarded video of the day space on the official website of the best club in the world, and prepare your goodbyes for N22.

sadly yes... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)
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post Jun 8 2009, 10:20 AM
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When Galliani says that Pato, Pirlo and Seedorf are not for sale .... WHAt THE HELL IS HE TRYING TO SAY AND DO?

Are those words supposed to let us know that Kaka was indeed for sale by AC Milan ... because on the other hand, if he is trying to make us feel better and safe ... WELL IT IS PRETTY STUPID since as far as I know we weren't selling anybody in the past.

Sheva was not for sale as far as I know.....

PLEASE DON'T ANYBODY GET IN LOVE WITH PATO BECAUSE READ THIS:

I AM ASSURING TO YOU TODAY MONDAY 8TH JUNE, 2009 THAT PATO IS LEAVING IN A COUPLE OF YEARS.

THS IS ALREADY GUARANTEED ... SOME OTHER BIG CLUB WILL COME AND TAKE HIM.

AT THE END OF THE DAY ... NOT EVEN KAKA WITH HIS "MORALITY" AND GOD DEVOTION WAS ABLE TO OVERCOME GREED.
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post Jun 8 2009, 10:32 AM
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Milan is bigger then Kaka , so if he wants to leave , the hell with him .

I really dont believe Milan have to sell him to straighten out the finances , I would rather think he wants to leave himself.

A very good player for Milan , but like sheva , his greedy departure will take his future legend status away. Not to mention his captaincy.

So off you go Kaka , dont let the door hit you on the way out and Forza Milan !!!
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post Jun 8 2009, 11:07 AM
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QUOTE (Nova @ Jun 8 2009, 03:32 AM) *
Milan is bigger then Kaka , so if he wants to leave , the hell with him .

I really dont believe Milan have to sell him to straighten out the finances , I would rather think he wants to leave himself.

A very good player for Milan , but like sheva , his greedy departure will take his future legend status away. Not to mention his captaincy.

So off you go Kaka , dont let the door hit you on the way out and Forza Milan !!!

Oh comon... where do you get this from. Its very obvious hes being forced out the door. Are you kidding me, greedy lol!


We have over 60 million debt and with Galliani repeating over and over again these days that Italian clubs can't compete with other clubs financially should pretty much spell it clear for you; his sale is all business and nothing personal regarding the player. We have no choice but to sell him in order to compete. If Pato's price tag was higher than Kaka's he would have been sold.

furthermore,

Here's a news flash for you, if he really wanted to leave he would have left to to madrid when we got 5th place
or to mancity when they were giving him 500k a week.

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Milan Chief Silvio Berlusconi: I Would Keep Kaka


Milan president Silvio Berlusconi still hopes that Kaka stays at the club, however, he has insisted that the decision is out of his hands as the move to Real Madrid is expected to take place today.

The Brazilian international is set to meet the Italian club's directors later today to inform them of his whereabouts next season. Reports around the world claim the move is all but done and that Kaka has a medical scheduled with Real Madrid medics in Brazil.

Despite the move seemingly tilting in Real Madrid's favour, Berlusconi claims he would retain Kaka if the whole saga was down to him.

"Like I said before, if it was down to me then I would keep him," Berlusconi told Il Corriere Dello Sport.

According to Italian reports, Berlusconi is set to speak with the ace, but he may not be able to persuade him to stay this time round.


what a bunch of bs. I am losing respect for him by the day. We seriously need a new president.
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I really dont believe Milan have to sell him to straighten out the finances , I would rather think he wants to leave himself.


You have no idea what's going on at all.
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Kaka always behaved well with us, he never asked for improvements in his contract or extensions. He was here for six years, winning all there is to win. We cannot allow ourselves to lose €70m every year. The motivations of Kaka's departure would be economical


From acmilan.com

Obviously people will believe this, not you.
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