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Can anyone see [not wish/not hope/not think... SEE!] Carlo coaching Milan next season?

This post has been edited by Zed.D: Feb 27 2009, 12:43 AM

on a similar pointless comparission, in a synchronized swimming group if one person is bellow the others skill-wise but all the others are very good, the lesser human being need'nt worry too much and can focus at the task at hand...or foot.

he is very solid working in the middle as a last line of resort, he struggles when ppl like ambrosini lets his man run by him towards Senderos who is without backup. He is being asked to (along with the other fullbacks) cover multiple mids/AM/Strickers whereas usually mids cycle back/back-check, which isn't the case this year.

**** you. Then again, I wouldn't have expected any different from this dirtsheet.

In synchronised swimming the whole point is for everyone to be flawless and the same, so you have just contradicted yourself in sawing one person can be weaker.

Work rate dosent mean anything if the player has no ability. Sissoko is a great athelete. Does that automatically make him a great footballer? no.

Certainly!

I hope you are joking.

Carlo is out of ideas, it's the end for him @ Milan.
I really hope we find a great coach to replace him.

Fucking hell, you lot are as bad as Villa fans at times. One bad result in a competition that you know Milan didn't exaclty prioritise on and it's the end of the World.

I think changes do need to be made in the summer, certainly, but while Inter may have yet more tough ties in Europe, Milan can focus 100% on the league. Who knows, they may have to crawl to the finishing line like last season, it could be worse if they're still in Europe.

Yeah we have limits as fans... I'm not gonna just blindly support and say forza milan if were doing this bad. I'm still a fan of the emblem, of the colours of the club.


I'm not a fan of the coach, silvio, galliani or any management. I'm not a fan of the players.


I say we should just keep kaka and pato and put everyone else for sale because this is ridiculous. I welcome the arabs at least they wont go around making stupid signings like emerson.

I dont care anymore that silvio has made milan what it is today, i dont care that carlo has won 2 CL with us, i dont even care that we are a family like club with values.

We are a football club and business first most. Winning is our objective and that is how we are able to survive as a company.

This sh*t that were seeing now isn't a top team. Its utter and pure trash. Yes i'm still a fan but no i'm not gonna sit back and hold my tongue because i've waited patiently. I haven't even said a word until today. I still had hope in this management/team/coach from the summer where we made our signings. That patience has now run out. Things need to be changed.

Our arrogance needs to be thrown away. Were too buys living in the days of van basten to realise how deep in sh*t this club is. F*ck pier silvio, i want arabs taking over. Then i'll know that we'll be able to compete with werder bremen at least.


@DST: The man you worship is left to retire in a trophyless season, getting whistled at by angry fans, and made to look like a fool in the defence because of his team mates.


5 years ago when i became a fan of milan, i did not think milan would ever fall this far.



All i gotta say is f*ck you silvio, f*ck you galliani, and especially f*ck you carlo. For the first time in my life you made me ashamed to represent these colours.

This post has been edited by Bluesummers: Feb 27 2009, 03:49 AM

Blue, with all due respect, you've done little BUT complain for the last couple of years. (Not counting the fanboying of Mourinho).

Don't think for a moment that anyone is happy about the season (though it's an improvement over last year) or about today's performance (there's nothing to defend). That said, the sorts of things you're calling for - selling everyone but Kaka and Pato, selling the entire club to someone willing to throw money around, etc - are in honesty not realistic. I DO think there will be changes, perhaps some we won't expect, but nothing so terribly drastic as you're calling for.

I'm not surprised at another nasty crack about the van basten days - presumably that was directed at me - but perhaps because I'm not 15, I've got a little perspective on things. No club is going to be on the top ALL THE TIME. Just isn't going to happen. Milan's been a lot worse than what you've seen this season or the last and they have come back. This is where patience comes in. That's something difficult in today's society where everything is instant-gratification-I-want-it-right-now.

I'm also going to take issue with your using (no offense intended to Kurt or Villa as they're an exception to this) the English model as the right way to go in football. I sincerely don't think it is. Throwing wild money around, inflating the value of players while doing precious little to foster the youth in your own country, making insane deals with the television companies and banks, having foreign owners come in and buy the clubs but leverage them so that (as with Manchester United and Liverpool) they pretty much HAVE TO make it deep in to teh CL just to afford their loan payments. To a certain extent, I think that the EPL has become more of an entertainment vehicle than a sport.

Thank you for your opinion but I have been at this forum longer than you have and i am clear of the rules and I am in my right to complain.

I haven't complained about this team since the summer transfer when, r7, told me to remain patient. I did rightly. I even made a claim in that bet that milan was going to finish on top because i truly believed it. That crack at van basten was not directed at you, but every milan fan in the world who thinks like that. As much as you like to believe it, i dont have any beef or problems with you or what you state. I may joke from time to time, but i never have the intention of insulting you when i make a statement. If what say however is justifyable by the circumstance, then i will not hold back. Like now...moving on...

Realistic or not about arabs taking over; it is still a possiblity and if it would make us a better team than i'm all for it. How is it possible that fiorentina and genoa can spend more than us when our president is the richest man in italy. If were a top club lets act like a top club.

Regarding the way english football is proceeding that is your opinion. I look at the facts. They are the league that has the most money, contains the most fans world wide, attracts the widest attention, and draws in most of the big players. Whether or not man u or liverpool has to make champions league every season is not my concern. I'm talking about the league as a whole.

Furthermore, yes i live in today's society where success is demanded every single season from top clubs. Not over a course of 5 years. If milan are to consider themselves a top team, we must be fighting for first place every season and be in the champions league. That is what barcelona/madrid do. That is what manchester/liverpool do, that is what inter/juve do. Why are we different! Why must we always fight for one objective when all other big clubs are able to fight on all fronts. I thought we were the great milan, greatest team of the last 20 years!

I"m sorry but my patience has run out. Like I said, in the last 5 years that i have started supporting milan, i have never been so asahmed as a supporter.


I can only wonder how the tifosi feel....

This post has been edited by Bluesummers: Feb 27 2009, 04:50 AM

It would seem then that we have a difference of opinion.

I still contend that your desires are unrealistic and perhaps based on lack of experience and/or information. You look at facts filtered through the English-language media which, let's face it, is heavily biased toward the English league. You assume that you're absolutely right, yet you're not placing the EPL or the way it's run in the current economy or in the context of world football and what's going on and what's may perhaps be best for the sport as a whole.

Sure, I'd love to see Milan win the league every season and make it to the CL finals, but that just doesn't happen. Or rather it only did in the late 80s and early 90s and I'm realistic enough to realize that may not happen every year. To be honest, I'd be content if not thrilled with a top 3 finish. I also believe that as disappointing as it may seem at the moment, the team is doing better this year than last. It's not as drastic a change as we'd like but it's at least a step in the right direction. And yes, I do agree that changes need to be made but I think the things you're suggesting are unrealistic and that if they did happen they'd change the club beyond recognition.

As for complaining, I wasn't the one who put up a poll about firing the coach at the end of last season.

As for the cracks, you've made more than enough old jokes and they weren't funny or appreciated the first time.

Thats your opinion and i respect it. Beyond that we have two similar ideas of football. You see it mainly as a sport. I see it mainly as a worldwide business. Lets leave it at that.

Indeed. And I think it's a very sad thing that people see football as a business so yeah, best to leave it at that.

But, I will not remain silent. So if you by any way get offended by the things I write then please just ignore my posts.



I'm furious to the max.


Also I was wondering if you could translate the berlu article on milannews.it I think everyone on the forum would greatly appreciate it if you could.

yes because all synchronized swimmers (and to be more to the point) football players are all equally as good......On mars!

** Let's just say Work rate, as you suggested, gives you athleticism. While i will not waste time on and tie hard work to being very athletic. I Will say that i believe that Sissoko is a great player for Juve and i will also say that hard work will win you ALOT more games then it wont.