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post Feb 23 2009, 07:30 PM
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QUOTE (Tennie @ Feb 23 2009, 12:27 PM) *
I don't think the majority feel that way. Not in those terms at least. The entire world isn't an instant gratification society.


I was just talking in terms of our fan base. The whisteling at seedorf this weekend, the constant boos and arguements with carlo show that most fans are frustrated and have had enough.
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post Feb 23 2009, 07:33 PM
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Most? How do you know that? Did you count how many of the season ticket holders whistled? Did you conduct a poll? Do you have any proof? Constant arguments with Ancelotti? Who? Where?

It seems clear that it's what you yourself think but there's no actual evidence that the vast majority of Milan fans agree with you.
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post Feb 23 2009, 07:33 PM
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QUOTE (Bluesummers @ Feb 23 2009, 09:25 PM) *
Oh i see. Yeah i used to do that as well with negative match game comments but i guess i feel the same as you. But what can you do, the voices on these forums are no different than most of the voices in milan and most of the voices of our club's fan base.

i think most people think this way: We are tired of under achieving and we want it fixed right now! Through whatever means necessary.


But of course they will make it clear that they are not satisfied with being 3rd place in the league. Of course they are not satisfied with UEFA cup football after lifting the CL 7 times. But does it happen every game ? No, hence polarizing two or three incidents really doesn't serve the purpose of the argument, because for the majority of the season they have been very very supportive.

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post Feb 23 2009, 07:35 PM
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QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Feb 23 2009, 11:23 PM) *
That is more than 15 cents acid, that is more like the treasure chest that Jack has been looking for watch out

Yeah, that's why I put the 'Unsure' smiley up there. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) I hate that Pirate!
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post Feb 23 2009, 07:38 PM
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QUOTE (Tennie @ Feb 23 2009, 12:33 PM) *
Most? How do you know that? Did you count how many of the season ticket holders whistled? Did you conduct a poll? Do you have any proof? Constant arguments with Ancelotti? Who? Where?

It seems clear that it's what you yourself think but there's no actual evidence that the vast majority of Milan fans agree with you.


Take a look at all the milan forums out there. Red black, milanmania, milanfan and others aswell. Take a look at our game attendance. Take a look at the whistels and boos that are in our home games. Take a look at the bullets sent to milan hq and the riots in streets.


Most is an undefined number that is over 50%. You can be literal and demand actual numbers but that does not take away from the fact that milan fans are not happy. Theres a reason why theres butchering of carlo and the squad week in and week out.
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post Feb 23 2009, 07:41 PM
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QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Feb 23 2009, 12:33 PM) *
But of course they will make it clear that they are not satisfied with being 3rd place in the league. Of course they are not satisfied with UEFA cup football after lifting the CL 7 times. But does it happen every game ? No, hence polarizing two or three incidents really doesn't serve the purpose of the argument, because for the majority of the season they have been very very supportive.


ofcourse, otherwise we wouldn't be fans. But the fact that there is doubt where this club is headed and butchering of the club staff and players every week proves my point.


Thats the one thing i like about barca and madrid is that the fans actually get a say in where the club is headed by voting. I wish milan would do the same because having the same president year in year out like a dictator imo is not the best thing.

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Blue, you're again blowing things out of proportion, using very old data unrelated to current situations (Riots, for example. Bullets, for example.) to bolster your argument. Which doesn't make it a strong argument.

Milan's game attendance is the highest in Serie A at somewhere around 68K/game - a good 10K/game higher than the cugini who share the same stadium. (check back in the serie a thread for reference. studies were done and the info is also posted on the lega calcio website).

In future I suggest you do a little more indepth study of a situation before making blanket statements that are provably incorrect.

Of the other boards, I do lurk on them and the people who are season ticket holders who post regularly are in no way as hostile and negative as you are. And these're the guys who shell out a good bit of money to go each week. They're not happy, no. But they're not baying for violence either. Nor is the Curva - check their websites if you don't believe me.

I'm not going to respond further to what has become a silly argument.





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post Feb 23 2009, 07:55 PM
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this is from milan news. 52% of votes say that they want van basten next season and carlo fired. 27% say they want a different coach next season, not van basten and not carlo either.
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the poll shows that 79% milannews.it visitors do not want carlo next season. I think this poll reflects very well how our fan base overall feels about the coach.
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post Feb 23 2009, 07:57 PM
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QUOTE (Bluesummers @ Feb 23 2009, 09:41 PM) *
ofcourse, otherwise we wouldn't be fans. But the fact that there is doubt where this club is headed and butchering of the club staff and players every week proves my point.


Thats the one thing i like about barca and madrid is that the fans actually get a say in where the club is headed by voting. I wish milan would do the same because having the same president year in year out like a dictator imo is not the best thing.


Butchering every week ? My friend I believe you are mistaken. I have been to several games during these past three years and in each game I have been to the fans were cheering. When I watch the games on tv, I could hear the fans cheering and roaring the team forward.

Those incidences of which you refer to can be counted by the number of fingers on your hand. So please don't polarize it and make it seem like it happens every week.

The dictator that you want out is the main reason you are a Milan fan today. Had he not been president, Milan would have been bankrupt, and there would only be one team in the city of Milan i.e. inter.

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post Feb 23 2009, 07:59 PM
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The poll proves very little, blue, other than the majority of the couple of thousand who voted in it want van basten. there are more than a couple of thousand fans of the club.
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Mourinho: The past is Milan, the present and the future are inter.


During the press conference before the race with Manchester United, the coach José Mourinho is back to talk about the derby, and the foul committed by Adriano hands during the popular challenge between the two teams. Mourinho talk about the behavior of Ancelotti and his statements: "He plays with words and the emotions and thinks that others are of pirla, demonstrates the failure of talks on the offside of Kakà gol del Milan in derby d ' way. If, instead of going so far away, we stop to 24 hours ago, then I can say that it was fortunate that Allegri is a quiet type and not a big mouth like me and Carlo because the goal of Milan Inzaghi has made a net foul. Not only that, it must be said that Inzaghi would take 3 days of the disqualification as he took Adriano (The Brazilian was disqualified for a punch to Gastaldello, while the action indicated by Mourinho is trying to hook the right ' rossonero attacker to Lopez). The fact that in the derby Ambrosini has not been warned for the second time and then not expelled shows that Charles is a successful coach and a winner. I have overcome so much to luck, but that no expulsion was so that Milan lost 2-1 and not only 3 or 4 to zero. " Still on the Milan and the great victories of history rossonera Another dig: "The past is Milan, the present and the future is Inter."


what a goddamn prick hahahahhahaha
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wow, way to be offensive.
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post Feb 23 2009, 08:02 PM
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QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Feb 23 2009, 12:57 PM) *
Butchering every week ? My friend I believe you are mistaken. I have been to several games during these past three years and in each game I have been to the fans were cheering. When I watch the games on tv, I could hear the fans cheering and roaring the team forward.

Those incidences of which you refer to can be counted by the number of fingers on your hand. So please don't polarize it and make it seem like it happens every week.

The dictator that you want out is the main reason you are a Milan fan today. Had he not been president, Milan would have been bankrupt, and there would only be one team in the city of Milan i.e. inter.


no i understand that but i still think that we should have a voting system. Obviously i'm grateful to berlu but i still think democracy would be better for our clubs future.
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QUOTE (Tennie @ Feb 23 2009, 01:01 PM) *
wow, way to be offensive.


mourinho has no fear for what he says. What he did by saying that just crosses the line.
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post Feb 23 2009, 09:15 PM
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QUOTE (Bluesummers @ Feb 23 2009, 08:03 PM) *
mourinho has no fear for what he says. What he did by saying that just crosses the line.

One would probably say a fearless atittude like that can only mean he's an idiot. Or, only idiots are fearless.


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